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I grew in hydro for my first few years of growing before eventually having a go at organic. I can relate to what the guys are saying above about yield, growth rate and flavour. I've experienced the same, there is a difference, not huge, but there is. I've compared with clones. There a many variables to consider though so I'd be cautious to say that one is better than the other with 100% certainty. The flavour issue with hydro could be down to something missing in the hydro nute lines that would maybe address that lack of flavour. Or perhaps there's something we're not nailing with hydro. Cannabis is such a complex plant with so many different compounds and terpenes.... It's either that or its that same effect that you get with fruit and veggies where the larger the fruit is the more its flavour seems to dissipate.

Thanks @Pat999 you've saved me a lot of typing bru POTM is still going to rest for a few more months. @CreX and others I appreciate the enthusiasm and support but hopefully you understand. On the other hand I can always start a POTM with no prizes. Let me know if you guys would be keen for that? You'll get the badge at least If you have any foresight and would like to see prizes return for POTM then it would be a good idea to support the competition and post your entries. It would also really help to set your ego aside and vote for those members who have entered once the poll gets going. We will still be running Snapshot Of The Month. That'll be starting soon soon. Just finalising prizes.

White sheeting is up and wasnt that expensive, only R23/m. Looks nice i think. new lights all installed. Finally grow area all sorted.

Progress Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

My reason for going organic is it ends up being cheaper in the long run. No expensive nutrients. It also feels more natural. I'm not force feeding the plants. They just do their thing like nature intended it to grow. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

H Guys, it also depends on the selection of the plant when breed. Some strains are selected for indoor and others for outdoor. The Green Crack I grew indoor was nothing like the plant I grew outdoor. Humboldt genetics are selected for outdoor growing. While the Jack Herrer grew indoor was better than the outdoor one. So I think selection plays a big role as well. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

IMO, the difference is there. A buddy of mine did a side by side clone dwc vs soil grow. The dwc finished faster and had bigger buds, but the soil grow had a more pungent smell. It also had an earthy taste to it. Something the dwc bud was lacking.

Looking good man. Sent from my CLT-L29 using Tapatalk

LOL! Mind you, even if i didn't, i woulda still won by one vote I won't do it again, PROMISE! #kakpraat

So decided to snip those dreary looking bottom leaves and they seem to like it alot! Progress is ok seeing how crappy Cape Town weather is at the moment but they look healthy.

Okay ouens now just don't vote for yourself again, we all know you think your plants are sexy Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

@Pat999 I came home lastnight and my AH started it's 1st signs of flowering. Pistols starting to come out It's small though but i think it's because it's a autoflower.

Honestly bru if you're growing to show your plants off then a journal is there for you, I don't grow to win anything, I do it because of the joy it will bring me. The bud is the best prize you could ever get, don't forget that. For now POTM is not going to happen, this isn't the first time it fell on its face only to be brought back. Start up more traffic on the forum, get more people involved. I seen somebody say they don't want to update daily because that's boring, well buddy if seeing your grow daily is boring then perhaps you shouldn't be doing it at all. My friend can attest to when he found me on 420 International with journals peeking over 30k views, updating on a very frequent basis. We can't start this comp on the basis of there might be a prize, does it mean if 15 people enter and 2 drop out it'll leave you with no prizes because it's below the minimum requirement of participants? Honestly bru and this is the end of my rant, leave it for now. Update your journal, enjoy your time here, enjoy your trials of error and success, give advice and take it in. Stay blazed Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

You'll win a packet of marshmallows tbh. I agree with 420SA, there isn't enough people entering and honestly it'll just be a waste of time. No company is gonna sponsor 7 blokes growing, and I'm not pissing on anyone but if you enter a veg plant for POTM it better be a doozie. Even with this current grow off, people were gifted awesome genetics with a simple rule, get a journal going and keep it updated. But apparently we have children who are also stoners that can't even do that. If I had the choice I'd never do a grow off comp like this again, because people take you for a nai not to mention the load of fucking hippies that also joined this forum. Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

I have a tent full of plants, and a shortage of stash, so flower time ... Mixed batch, originating from clones and seeds, although they're all pachamama stock, so just taking what I get. Theoretically, White Widow, Gorilla Glue #4, Super Lemon Haze, Super Silver Haze & Blue Kush. I say theoretically, because previous experience has shown they end up pretty much the same. Nice, but not what was expected. So, here goes....

Repotted and in its new home Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

Update on the unknown strains. Some of these guys are surprising me with some amazing growth over just a few days(pic1&2), cant wait to see what they look like next tomorrow, i mean next week;) i did also notice the ones doing so great are the ones in coco/perlite/soil mix, gave no kak at all. The other that are just in coco/perlite/vermiculite showed signs of deficiencies early already and has been up and down to keep their ph at 5.8, which for some reason after adding mix reads at 6.2. Yes the mix was ph balanced to 5.8 before feeding. i think on next replant i will add all of the plants to coco/perlite/soil mix instead. Also takes less feedings, as suppose to everyday feedings with coco/perlite/vermiculite.

Controversial topic. Can anyone tell me if a plant knows the difference between organic or synthetic Nitrogen? Is there a difference in the molecular structure between them?

That's a recovery and a half, well done Pat. I must admit, I was a little stressed and thought it would take way longer. Obviously got the attention they needed, balls and all

Looks like a nice setup you have going there!

She is quite sensitive at the moment... I don't see any harm reporting her now... But you can do that later aswell... The longer the lights are on, the faster she will reveg Note- try removing all left over flowers as they contain flower hormones that slow down the reveg process

Cool, I can extend her light hours. Just don't want to mess with the flowering girls. I'll just seperate the plant completely. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

You're currently dong Organic now, so why the change from Hydro to Organic?

LoL the guilty pleasures of a stoner. Step into the mind of the horniest dude about, the bloke that voted for himself [emoji1787]right ouens so when are we writing the book about that. 50 shades of green Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

That's an honest man right there! A loser yes but honest na man vote for yourselves, I would. It wouldn't mean much at all if a lot more peeps voted

Hahaha! Voetsek Pat! Hahahaha!

Loser [emoji1787] Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

That's mostly my experience too... Enough to convince me to try this out and see how it goes... My idea is to have the speed and vigor in veg, get them to the size I want, train them nice... Then into soil to bloom. I will be showcasing this in my grows.. Including the Chocolope competition plant

@CG420za will take some updated pics tonight bru

Mooi gese ou maat!

I'm in agreement with @SkunkPharm, transplant and watch

I havent been on any forums that offer such amazing opportunities to show off your grow... As a fairly new member, it is an exciting avenue to show off my plants and to gain something, however small it may be. I do agree with you about peeps needing to participate and not spectate, but how's about a monthly poll either way, with prizes offered if more than 15 or 20 people vote or enter a Pic... I'd rather have a prizeless POTM than nothing. Most growers on this forum seem to be new growers who are battling it out like we have when we started growing.. And I don't think we should be too critical about how they update their grows.. Even some of the more experienced growers and members on this forum have incomplete journals that have been left off. So yea man... It's not ideal with the amount of participants that have been playing POTM, but there is more than one way to skin a cat

I'll follow since you're growing AH too [emoji1787]welcome bru abd enjoy your time here Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Welcome bud!

No one is judge'erig here... Good luck and welcome!

Day 21 Some good growth has happened this past week on majority of the plants. I added some auto's into the mix, want to get some STS and do a bit of experimenting and reversing to try get some seeds and see how it turns out. Daiquari Lime #2 does not have a seed in it yet, I popped 2 and the one has not yet germinated so popped the 3rd and now waiting for that to germinate and then I will pot it. My Bag seed plant is growing nicely, although is not happy about something so I did a semi flush on Sunday and will monitor it. Either PH issues or too many nutes, I may have started feeding too early. Very very bushy though and I am not sure what to do with her? The others are all doing well, liking the growth I have been seeing on the CBD Critical Mass, GSC #2 is has not been happy the past two days or so. Will check the roots tonight, perhaps she is root bound. GDP #2 will need to be re-potted soon too, surprised it survived actually. Very robust strain. Will be a bit behind the others but happy to wait a bit longer for it. I am sure the yields will be worth while.

Most salts are synthetically derived. By chemical processes. It is by products of other industries. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

I reckon transplant into final pots and wait it out. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

It was bran with predatory mites.

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Eishhh, if this thread is anything to go by. I'm sure those babies will do well. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

It's another early morning off day gardening session for me. Having potted 15 clones and checking up on my flowering girls which has gone to 12 days since 12/12 switch. Bay11 is taking a tos long time to gooi pistils but it'll get there. The rest are already going nicely. My AK, BD, Bay11 and Lemon Diesel are all over 1m already from the ground to the tip. The two AH girls aren't far off 1m a piece either. The runts are the SA and DC OG, take a peek. I also potted up my little Vanilla Kush clone which was showing beautiful white roots, no soil lost from the root ball. Have a jas one ouens Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Little flyers Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

Congrats Dank, 420th post in this thread!

Your pH range is too unspecific and you are going to run into problems. If you are going it organic then narrow the range to 6.0 to 6.4 with 6.2 the sweet spot. Inorganic your range is 5.6 to 6.0 with 5.8 the sweet spot.

So earlier this week there was a donation of sorts to the cause see the 1st pic. 12 of these were planted. Three/four days later we welcome the new babies into the family. Still waiting for a couple to make there appearance. This is a new auto strain from Elite seeds. 17% CBD 0.5% THC is what they say. 6 into Coco perlite mix and will later go into autopots the will be receiving Greenhouse powder feed. The other 6 into soil mix and will receive enzymes, beneficial microbes and biobloom. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

For what it's worth...I germinate my seeds in full summer sun. They are built to handle extremes we are blissfully unaware of. Even indoors will do well under HPS imo.

I wish bud but we've tried to revive POTM a few times. It just doesn't get the level of interest it should to make it worthwhile for sponsors. There are a good few, like you, who would love POTM to go the distance but we need at least 20 entries a month to really make this comp a good contest and worthwhile for the sponsors. One thing I don't think some members grasped is that it doesn't matter if you know that your plant won't win. Entering your plant is essentially a vote in favour of keeping the comp going. No matter at what stage it is. If the comp doesn't get enough entries it can only look like very few are interested. More interest = bigger prizes too Sucks to make decisions like this but it wasn't a tough one unfortunately...

My Cali Orange doing very well and looking super healthy. Probably about a month left for harvest and im keeping a close eye on her as many have tried to steal a few buds.

I have to agree led are the future...... but we live in the presant and unless you want to spend 15k+ on a panel hid will kick led ass any day of the week. I am not trying to be nasty but I have seen countless people buy led panels ... today they use hid. Just my 2 cents Cheers Reaf