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Hey all, So after speaking to some friends I was intrigued and decided to try and build a Bubble Cloner. I must give credit where credit is due and this mostly stemmed from @CreX I just purchased the stuff and put it together. Not a new concept or anything, however will be nice to have a reference on this website. What is a Bubble Cloner? A bubble cloner is where you have a tub with water and the clones are above the water, the stems never touch the water. You have an airstone (or a few) and the droplets from the bubbles popping spit small amounts of water into the stems of the cuttings. So fairly simple, I found a suitable tub. I did not want the water to be too deep so found something I felt was suitable. It's a 20L tub. Nothing fancy, best to try avoid something where light may leak through as roots are not the biggest fans of light. So best to avoid something transparent. I did not have proper equipment when doing the holes as I was not at my house, so made do to measure as the first few holes were not very straight. Ended up using a cutting board and knife to make the lines / markings to try get some uniformity to the holes. I ended up making the holes with a 38mm hole saw. For the blue discs I used a pool noodle. A bread knife cuts through it easily. I then took a 44mm hole saw and pressed down on it to create some marks and cut them out with scissors - very easy. In terms of light leaks I feel its sufficient. I ran out of pool noodle as I just cut a piece to take with me. I drilled two small holes on the side near the top to fir the tubes for the air through and then there were bubbles! As you can see I used two airstones, bubbles are important! You want to see the bubbles travelling to the corners of the container. I personally used these Tetra airstones, others will work well too. I used a Sobo SB9905 airpump which is dual output at 2x 5.5L/ min apparently and only uses 4.2W I had to clean up my flowering plants so decided to fill up the bubble cloner and test it out. So far this beats using jiffy pellets or soil. As per @CreX's recommendation I am trying to keep things simple, he likes to harden them off for 12 - 24 hours (at most) in plain tap water, so as you take the cutting place it into tap water and ensure the stem is submerged in the water. No humidity dome, just plain tap water with the chlorine and all. You can add rooting hormone on the stems, but not essential. After hardening them off, transfer the cuttings to the bubble cloner which is filled with tap water once again. Straight from the tap with good old chlorine! I put them into my veg area, I am trying without rooting hormone, no kelpak, nutrients, humidity dome. Nothing at all. So far all clones are still looking good. You obviously do not have to do it the same way, I may give it a try later on with a few additives. Perhaps some Trich and/or Kelpak although @CreX has not had as much success when doing so and finds that the stems tend to rot / go soggy more often then. He suspects the chlorine helps to prevent this. Next time I will most likely use rooting hormone as well, I have a gel. The powder may get rinsed off quickly though, probably the gel too. Anyways, hope this helps some people out, so far all is going well and I much prefer this method. I will report back in a few days / weeks giving an update on the rooting. I do not need this many clones, so just doing it to test things out and will be happy to trade them or perhaps toss them. All in all this costs under R500, I know I could have gotten my stuff cheaper from other shops, but I did not feel like driving all over the place. Realistically you could probably have this built for under R300 if you source well priced parts, an added benefit is you will then have an air pump and air stones to make a nice AACT for your plants too!

They've got a lot of "ointments" on that list... I am disappointed to not see any Penis Enlargement creams. I wonder how many of those products are the exact same, with the exception of packaging / branding? I could be wrong though. These guys should not be around if they legally allow for competitors, open up a shop next to them and I am sure people will stop buying from them very quickly. Not hard to beat what they're doing. If I am going to be buying indoor, that is not what I expect. I expect something like this:

Well said @highchome I also enjoyed growing in hydro and enjoyed the control. You do feel a little more involved. It took a lot for me to switch over to soil, it really is about letting go. Starting off in hydro had also gotten me used to the cleanliness of hydro. Something you have to sacrifice with soil as it does end up making your grow area/tent a lot more "dirty", in a good way of course. What switched me over to organics was kids. Don't have the time for hydro no more!

It's the media's sensationalist weapon... "dagga lab" "hydroponic dagga lab" and of course still using the word "dagga". It's all about the angle. The media is clearly targeting those who are strongly anti-drugs and anti-"dagga" to read their articles. They are the only one's who will read it... and us. If they say police raided a persons home and encountered a "cannabis garden" the effect of the story immediately diminishes. They've lost the reader and the advertisers lose out. A lot of people also think cannabis and dagga are 2 different things. They see cannabis as this breakthrough healing plant that they are hearing about on the news but they still see "dagga" as this drug that is ruining our youth. The media capitalizes on that. Also notice how the media will call it cannabis when its an article on medicine but as soon as its found in someone's home its called dagga again. Twats

Nice bru! Okay so I took another look at your setup... You have a few things to do... First will be to either raise all the plants up individually to the net... Or lower the net down over the plants. Personally I would do a bit of both... Some plants can go a bit higher to match the others. Next would be to have about 15cm of plant above the net... You can go even more... But let's start smallish... Then once the net is secure and plants are in the holes... Weave the tops of the plants under the net so that the net holds them... Don't worry, in a few hours all the tops will be pointing toward the light again. At that stage you are all set... Now the work is little... Every few days you just bend the stems under the net again and keep the canopy flat... Once your net is full, then you can flip to flower and reap the buds bro Edit - after the bending... I would lower your light to as close as you can go, making sure you don't lower it too much so the stems on the outskirts don't get light

Day 61 / Day 9 of Flower So I reinforced my tent a bit, not fully done but its something for now. It's helping with the negative pressure and the sides getting sucked into the plants. I did another heavy lollipop / defoliation on the plants, will leave them for now to recover and continue their journey, I should have taken a pic before. I only have a pic I took on the 8th unfortunately. On 8 August: Today: Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Don't be afraid!! That shit happens. It's okay... Your stem just folded, that's perfect.... Leave it for a few days... Bent like it was.... And a huge knuckle will form. Are you still vegging the plants?

Here is a video where you can see the droplets splashing out of the top. At the end I am showing where the water level is, it's just above that line. Around 5cm / 6cm from the top of the lid. https://imgur.com/4GGuZsh

Okay so... You can imagine the 200l bin in half... Now imagine drilling a hole at the bottom in the middle. At the open side of the drum, weld a 25mm flat bar across the diameter of the drum, weld a ring on the center of the bar that a bar can fit into, big nut works well, and take a 15mm solid round bar, stick it through the hole at the bottom of the drum... Now you have a spindle for your drum. The frame will have to be at your discretion. The crank though... Is super easy too... I would take a wheel from a trolley or a wheel bin... Fashion a crank and mount it on to the drum, so that when you turn the crank... The wheel rides on the drum and turns it. So I would actually design the drum frame exactly the same as the cement mixer... With the crank in place of the motor

Pedal it like a bicycle? Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

That's the idea yes. Mixing about 40L at a time would be fine so the drum doesn't have to be that big. The crank bit leaves me blank. Wouldn't know where to start or where to look for something like that. I agree an electric motor isn't needed. As long as the bin rotates smoothly.

Yassi... You saying it like that makes them sound like hectic dealers... "hey kid, do you wanna buy some Marijuana?" Dodgey as fuck... I'm actually offended and want to report that shit... With a kid of my own that's almost in primary school, if I found this out as a parent I would throw such a scene. I love my Mary Jane so much! But I do not and will never be cool with underage exposure without control

Not really something I would recommend. Organic nutes like Biobizz are meant to supplement the soils food web and not be a complete feeding solution on its own.

I think I have age on all of you. Give your kid some pocket money and have them mix it or help at least. That is my solution for now. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

I can give you some ideas if you're keen... It does involve a grinder though... But the end result will work well for your needs

May be time to repot as well. Do you ever flush? If not, could very likely be salt build up. Need to flush your soil more often when using inorganic nutes due to the salt build up. Perhaps give that a try and monitor it then.

i think ima just do it now, seems like the logical way to go to maximize bud.

My fan has 6 speed settings, although RH is becoming an issue so I have been pushing the speed up a bit to try combat that but the carbon filter seems to prevent a lot of the water from being removed easily. I was thinking of getting some metal alu strips, although did not want to struggle cutting them with a hack saw so decided to try the PVC. Already have it, so will purchase some cement to fill them and hope that will work. I'd like to find an easier way to remove the one pole in the front so I can easily remove my plants when need be, cable ties are a bit of a mission not sure velcro will be strong enough either.

To give you an example... I put a few plants under my scrog net. The one plant in particular, was 75cm tall. It is now under the net, flat, and only 42cm tall... The branches bend really well and that plant has responded the best to the net. So the nets not just for support... It's to keep the canopy flat like PsyCLown said. The net you have is more of an outdoor config where high winds can break the stems outdoor and your net will prevent breakage. .. But indoor, stem breaking is much less of an issue, and light penetration and distribution is more of a concern. Do yourself a flavour next round... Scrog and reap

You basically keep bending the branches under the scrog net to try create a flat canopy and once it is even and full you can then let it grow. It can be a method to help create a flat canopy to maximize your space and light. Anything beneath the net would generally get cut / pruned as well. It won't get much light and can help increase airflow by doing so. Also forces the plant to spend more energy on the growth above the net.

They are still on the smaller size yes but taking that stretching in consideration I guess that'll be OK. The other voice is also telling me to hold on and maybe let it veg for another week or so. Come next week Sunday I'll post those pics again and make that choice. My weed is slowly getting less so it comes down to timing as well I guess Sent from my FIG-LX1 using Tapatalk

LoL thanks bru[emoji16]I'm happy with how this round turned out. A few grows back I was really in a shitty place regarding my feels and I fucked up a whole grow. So looking at these girls I'm very happy. I can't believe the Lemon Diesel and AK are both around 1.3m tall and still standing Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Which nutrients are you using and how much? Is it not maybe nute burn? Do you pH your water / feeds? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Just a bit of frost coming your way. In order of appearance : Amnesia Haze Bay11 DC OG Blue Dream AK Lemon Diesel Strawberry Amnesia I'll be happy with having more than 450g dry this round. It's a good amount for just being soil[emoji3577] Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Update. Blue Cheese 2 is close to being done. She's got around 3% amber. EDIT: She had her first flush 2 days ago.

As promised I have returned with a golden nugget and three beans. Some would say I'm a wise man bringing all these gifts, they're probably wrong It's gonna be fun trying to harvest these girls that's for sure Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

I reckon anything under a cube you can get away with by hand and shovel unless you have to mix frequently then a cement mixer will help some.

Hahaha...!!! Downhill from 30....[emoji44] I'll raise you another 10 and add a slipped disc. Gooi daai graaf meneer[emoji28] But I must admit the engineer in me has been thinking of building something.... necessity is the mother of all inventions. An open ended plastic 200l drum on a wheeled trolley laying at an angle on rollers, spun by an electric motor. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I don't worry myself with it too much, but I won't do it just after a water. I hang her whole anyway. sacredseeds.co.za As far as training goes, LST plants enjoyed it. I did top one of them, she was the shortest but also more dense. Shes the one in the dark now. The same strain with LST maybe has about another week to go.

I've had a lot to say initially here, but yeah as this just slides and slides, while I still feel a burning bullseye on myself, I've really just got silent...gobsmacked!

Another 5 years. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

Also many of the organics are not bio-available as is and I don't think coco is idea for the soil bacteria to grow in, esp with the constant watering. However I've heard a few people talking about it, though I've not paid much attention. I think some of the people at cocoforcannabis did it if you want to check. Also remember it has to be pure coco/perlite anything else in the mix (soil etc) could change things a lot. Personally I'd rather pick a lane and go with one of the well tested paths unless you are doing it just to learn I hear you , a great example of optimising for your situation. My daughter is a little older now, so I've got way more time that I did when she was small. I'd say that atm I'm spending 20 mins twice a day and ~45 mins a week max mixing ferts with coco/perlite. And I would like to automate the watering at some point so that should make it pretty easy. But that is exactly the kind of thing you can optimise for when selecting what works for you

I would cut a 200l drum in half... Pretty much make the mixer the same as a concrete mixer vibe... But make it spin with a crank... The electric motor will drive the cost up real high for a simple device

Don't get me wrong I enjoy mixing up soil. But that was when I only needed to mix up 40-60L at a time. Ideally I want to mix up a batch of about 200L of soil next which is quite a lot but doesn't really justify renting a mixer. @Bospatrollie2 the challenge is on bru. Show me the way

I hope to get that poles soon, just hustling through a ruff patch gou gou so when I get the next round started I'd like the side of my tent to stay where they are. The funny thing is I tried crossing two pvc pipes over each other and using a cabletie to keep it there, lol.... Yeah I still lost a bunch of side room Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Tryin' a gif of the Skywalker trichs'.

Ah yes, the negative pressure. I really want to lie to myself and say I could get another plant in my tent but half the space is taken away by the walls sucking in. The square aluminium sounds like a good idea there @Pat999 I also invested in a manual voltage controller for my HIT fan to lower the fan speed as much as I could without undermining ventilation performance in order to lower the negative pressure, but it didn't help a whole bunch.

@Oolong83 it could be that specific strain/plant is sensitive to nutrients, some plants eat more than others. The previous pictures looked a bit like strong nutes, new pictures seem more serious, prob worth checking the runoff for that plant, if she was not eating or had a root issue could be salt buildup contributing.

Congrats Gents! @Stoukie @CreX

@PsyCLown i did actually put this ladies head under the scrog net. Just want to see how she would grow and what to expect, get a better idea so i can be ready for this process next grow, which is already to go to flower already, i just don't have the space. So as soon as these 6 come out of vegging the next 6 move in.

I use the EHG nute mix. I only gave nutes last night for first time last week, they usually get feedings every 6-7 days. I do give a foliar spray every now and then with either kelpak or wonder-soil all purpose mix. Usually around 5ml/lt yes i do PH to 6.2-6.5. all plants are on the same shit, but none show any signs.

Lekker bru lekker, congrats to Stoukie for taking this one. Funny enough yesterday I went in to get some water for my veg girls and saw a small spider yeet out the jojo tank tap and saved the fella asap. Had him dry himself off on my finger and let him go on his way. Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Congratulations @stoukie!! I actually voted for your Pic! Very well deserved Thank you to 420sa for 2nd place!

Wake and bake snake

Well so the veg tent is going on. Growing is going on with the clones taking. Need to wait to pic my clones I want and then pot up and give the rest to my friend[emoji1787]sweet honey bbq Alrighty then the flowering tent update will be later today, now scram I got nothing to do and I'm extremely busy at doing nothing Sent from my G3312 using Tapatalk

Some nicely compact healthy roots. This is a male. Was sad to chop him but also glad to see how good the root all looks. Guess repotting is happening this weekend... Sent from my FIG-LX1 using Tapatalk

Like is say shut the fuck up and dont tell anyone [emoji1306][emoji91][emoji172][emoji169][emoji173][emoji1316][emoji271] for the love of the plant Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

A hydroponic lab, WTF. Ultimately it is the money which will probably play one of the bigger roles in putting them behind bars as that amount in cash is not something commonly seen and hard to prove it was not from the weed. I hate the term "dagga", call it what it is! Cannabis. In that one pic it looks like a vacuum pump, so I assume for making BHO and purging the butane. I assume a closed loop system or whatever they're called.