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@StickyD420 Beautiful, healthy well trained canopy. Well done. With regards to your thoughts on quality of weed grown in soil and soiless, I would have to disagree. Both can produce equally as good quality. In general DWC rocks. @Ill_Evan all you need to unlock your dwc results is a few quality plants. You should oneday do a coco grow with as many small plants as you can fit in your flower space. Keep copies and then put the best of the lot in dwc at reset. In general 2/10 plants are decent. The others in most cases are mediocre.

No nutrition for 3 months now, they look super happy to me.

Early lemon berry

So here we go again! Here is a Pic that best describes my grow... And a few closeups. Things are getting interesting! Only a few more weeks before it's chop chop!!

Final yield dried buds this does not include popcorn 590g 555w of light used, my best yield yet Im sure if i grow pheno #4 clones in a mono crop i can get 700g plus

Couldn't agree more. We need a Trinity Farms session. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

That's a hectic thing. So much potential and only so much space/time. Just do the best by the ladies and they will show who is best-thats all you can do. Then trying to pick a winner out of the group, when there are so many potentials.... But getting it right - priceless. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

French cookies are the densest tackiest heaviest nugs in the tent right now and have the fewest dark pistols still... Keen to see what happens, the current smell is very garlic and vampire warding smells lol

Either way, I have found that larger beds are an amazing wonder... I am hoping to convert to a single large bed for all my plants 1.1mx2.0m about 30cm deep With the larger buckets I'm using this round, I have had fewer issues than ever and watering is really quick. Might even convert to a system like @PsyCLown with all his carrots

Secret Jardin Dark Steet tents are the best on the market imo They come with much more than just a scrog net. They have a space saver that prevents the tent walls from being sucked in due to extraction. The tent comes completely sealed and you choose where you want to make holes for your extraction cables and intakes. The intakes are also light proof. You also get clips to manage cables. I think me and Cool J spoke on Facebook

Most certainly, soil can be more expensive, though the soil builds itself up over time and gets better even through the 5th grow in the same soil. This the decrease the costs and the life inside the soil accumulates ever time. The biggest mistake made in soil, is the use of synthetic nutrients, which will do the job of the Microbes, therefore making them go on holiday and they die off. If you learn how they work, how to feed them, and use them to your ability, you'll soon see the difference. Not to say it's better at all, though it is a earth friendly method and there is less of a footprint left behind, which is proven and more sustainable. Very true, the nutrient manufacturers are extremely good at making what the plants need and the smell and such from these grows has been excellent, with a solid high and taste. I grew in coco and used GHE my second run, and wasn't working in my favor at all and was told to try it by a grower I knew, who in turn has switched back to soil and my method of making soil, as his clients preferred that. They say soil needs to stand for so long, this is true, to build its Microbes and such, but you can get very detailed and technical and that is also a little extreme for me, but others might like to do it, and I let mine build as I use it time and again. If you build your soil correctly too, you can growth just like hydro in soil. Also, thank you for the interesting conversation and challenging views, it's what makes us learn and grow, pun intended. Peace.

@PsyCLown I have a humidifier going as the heater dries out the air, so i need the extraction fan on the regulate the RH, i have 2 fans inside of the aswell to circulate the air, so far it seems to be working well, i did what @CreX advised and so far looking good! Heater has a thermostat so is only on when temps dip, so far im happy!

Hmm, do you have issues with RH if you turn your extraction fan off or is it really just to get some fresh air in? If its due to RH, I'd get a sensor which will turn the fan on/off based on the RH. If its just to get fresh air in, I'd say put it on a timer and turn it on every now and then only - a digital timer is easy enough to find and not that expensive - cheaper than electricity with a heater running 24/7 You should also have fans inside your tent circulating the air around, it should not be the extraction fans job to do that IMO. If it were my setup, that is what I would do if I was growing in a shed.

I am running a 525w led. It gets nice and hot. I have a dedicated oscillating fan for it.

I know a way that will surely help pick the keepers... A smoke sesh at Trinity Farms... Besides Its been too long since I've last had some of that passion fruit that I honestly have high ratings for... Tasty, smooth and wonderful high, a plant to be proud off

That canopy looks good.[emoji3] Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I get like that too... Currently my tent smells like old peanutbutter bread until I get in there On the up side... If you walk past my outside window you can pick up subtle hints of something growing hehe

Done a grow with FF Classic Premium also but it need nutes after 3-5 week, its great for seeds or rooted clones with only water for that that time. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

There you go, thanks for that... I've noticed and found in my search that the minute a nutrient is used, you will keep needing it, and so far so good with proper made up soil, and hit with teaming Microbes.

Thanks for the kind words. To be honest I'm not a big fan of the smells atm... It's too much of a mixture of everything hitting you in one go as soon as the door is opened. But individually smelling them one by one up close and personal really is one of the highlights of growing.

Looking for ideas for the floor in my grow room. I’ve got a setup in the garage and thinking of covering the floor to help raise and maintain the temperature in the room. Thoughts about a carpet maybe ?

Could not agree with you more bro. Another valuable lesson I learnt here on the forum and from a highly respected brother local grower - fire man. You get out what you put into them girlz.

Definitely, the worm compost I get comes with worms in it, and a lot of people think worms digest the soil and poop the goodness out, when in fact, a worm is like an in side out digestive system, and its skin does all the work. Hmmm, what carrots? The large bed would be soil too? Which is a great idea though and good rooting area.

I feel worms are good, when I was using the Organics Matter soil I found worms in my soil a few times. So depending on which soil you're using, you may already have worms. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Whats your thoughts of adding some worms to the soil ?

You're advise is welcome @StickyD420! Carry on! Thanks all for the pointers. This is by no means an intention on doing comparisons between mediums and grow styles. I learnt how to grow cannabis in the deep end and my first grows were all with DWC, funny enough my first attempt has been my best attempt so far I want to do one soil run so that if I want to switch up mediums because of circumstances then I at least that I can. Also just want to learn

ph has been fixed , doing dechlorinating I planted the clones and just watered them a bit , i generally give them about 500ml water every second day

I'm sure everyone has been on a road trip or out driving, and seen a tree growing out of a huge rock? That bean landed on that rock in a crevasse or small groove, where some moisture and ground lay, where the very interesting part comes, and that is when the bean comes to life and as the plant grows, in the day time it would suck up the suns energy, and when night fell, it now throws that energy through the root system and it actually eats away at the rock making room for the roots to grow inside the rock. So to really build your soil, you need to have something planted and growing that feeds the life in the soil through that energy, and the Microbes and plant create a bond that speak to each other and in turn work in harmony. Tried to explain it as best I can.

Hey Bakstein420, Well, I pull the soil away from the stem base and remove the root just there, not all of it, enough for the next plant to fit. Plant the new one, then build a humus layer on top of that original layer working just the top 10 -15mm down with finger tips, water that in as you do for new plants potted up, and there I go again with pure water. That's the idea, and on my first grow of this soils life, with only a dose of Biodyne liquid gold, and a dose of ActiVera from Biobizz (1ml to 5L) to start the factory going.

The Dark Street come with a bit of extras and you can customize to how you want the placement of extraction and inlets etc. You basically get a sealed tent and make your own holes.

I still don't understand the reasoning and logic behind soil being less work as some people claim and I certainly disagree that soil / organic tastes different or better. In my experience and comparisons, the difference is that the plants grew a bit slower in soil than they did in coco. The soil can be more forgiving in the sense that the plant can draw nutes from the soil if you are not providing enough via feeds such as BioBizz and that would not be the case for a hydro or coco grow. You can certainly grow in coco with a proper set and forget method, I have just completed a grow as such. A big res for automatic watering. Mix nutes in the res and that is it - I literally take a visual look at the plants to make sure all looks good and do not touch anything unless I need to trim / train which you do in soil too. In terms of mixing nutes, piss easy depending on the nutes you use. Measure out the nutes x amount of ml per L (same as BioBizz), add to the big res, maybe drop a little bit of ph down in and that is it. You follow the feeding chart on the nute bottle, like with BioBizz and that is it done. No need to over complicate things. It works. I am certainly not against soil and organic grows, however I do feel a lot of the info and reasoning behind them is purely for marketing and placebo such as organic weed tastes better or is smoother or some shit like that. Based in my experience, that is certainly not the case. Growing in soil was also far more expensive and I feel that is why the companies are pushing people towards soil. I could probably get nutes and medium for 2 plants (20l pots each) for an entire grow for under R250 in terms of coco. A bottle of BioBizz alone is around or over that and 30L of soil is close to that. You can grow great plants in soil, you can do so in hydro and coco as well. Equipment costs aside, hydro is probably the most cost effective growing method, followed by coco and then soil last. If you can get a soil where you do not need to add any amendments or nutes and you can grow plants with the same vigor, yield and speed of coco or hydro. Then I would be interested and would consider soil again. I believe in the states there are some amazing and true living soils, although in SA we are lacking in that department. Perhaps if you were to make your own soil, but that is really tedious and time consuming and certainly far more difficult than going the coco or hydro route I feel. Gotta wait 6 months or longer before you can even start using the soil I believe?

@SkunkPharm i have a 320 quantum bar, but because ive just popped the seeds, im not running the light at 100%, its dimmed down to about 25%.

@Kiteloop What ive gathered from research is insulating the floor works nicely, ive got my plants on a layer of polystyrene and thats worked pretty well, i had my heating messed up but its sorted now, using a fan heater to bring the temps to a comfortable level for my plants and this has been good so far! Are you using any type of heating?

Thank you all for the kind words, very much appreciated. Exactly @1000Hills Nursery you can get same or better results in DWC and or coco, though those mediums need more precise inputs and you become the scientists telling your plant what it needs, when you say so. Which I've done and feel for me that this way now, works best for me. Kind of like, set it and forget it (other than watering). I just want to learn and help everyone where I can, there is no reason we cant all have success.

@Ill_Evan Looking absolutely amazing brother!

Perfect in my opinion, that will feed the soil you using, which feeds the Microbes and they feed the plants roots, Mycoroot is also good to add to that. I've seen some wow that's big heads, and some wow that smells and looks crazy good, but the delivery of it and feeling was very lacking, and most folk are heading back toward building a proper soil ecosystem, than growing in non living mediums and even overseas the market is going more craft cannabis, as there is a something to it others seem to be after, and that's the market speaking. Very interesting actually. A guy I knew grew a batch in coco and a batch in soil, the soil didnt last a day past ready to jar, and it was all taken.

Congratulations to the winners! Well done. This really was not an easy decision at all, very close indeed. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

I've gotten the BioBizz nutes.. but I have EM Pro soil anyways and will probably be using it.

So@Ill_Evan I guess the question is. You going full on microbes or going to be using nutes? Or no nutes, I'd be curious to see a comparison of cuttings - one in soil and one in dwc. See how they grow and then end yield. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

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Congratulations to the winners, thoroughly deserved

@SmokeyZero so rhino board was an option, but it weight a ton. Instead i found something epic! Its called Supa Wood, They usually use it for the backing on cupboards. Its sturdy, about 5mm and is white on one side. Super cheap R140 and comes in large sheets. Then Cape Plastics in Cape Town stock plastic sheets for R80. Its thicker than usual plastic sheeting so it holds as a sheet.

That sounds like trading one set of problems with another set of problems. You do get in line air heaters that you could rather use with your ducting But I really don't think it's needed in SA

Week 2 of flower

What us the size of your tent? I run a panel heater on a sonoff wifi switch with temperature sensor. A panel heater only uses 420w.

I could upload the combined file.. so here is day 25 to 32 1.15 you see a small move of the pots, went 2-3 cm towards the cam. Is all I did so far on the plants beside feeding them

18hr lights on is recommended at 1st, give them a week in there new inviorment. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

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Woah!! These pics are almost unrecognizable compared to now. The super tall colas are all Aurora Kush... Seems to be a stretchy biatch... But stacks well so let's ride it out.

And this is where I will pick up where I left off! Since the last update, my flower area is harvested and restacked, my veg area is barren and I have a few small ladies in the cloning station getting ready for transplant. I managed to find some homes for some of the plants, and one of the 4 Aurora Kush babies has found a home in @PsyCLown tent. The remaining 3 are in the flowering tent now and have been pulling out some magic. I have gone with large 160l totes for buckets and one has soil and the other has coco. So far, they are about the same... Coco dries out faster. Here's a few pics of everything in the tent now. The Aurora Kush ladies are in the front, and I'll introduce the others gradually. I put them into the flower tent and let them settle nicely into their new homes by keeping them in veg for some time... I think 4 weeks more, or 3....cant remember... But the growth was much. Iv upped the wattage on the lights to about 75% which puts me around 370w. Id like to add an extra light panel or 2 for better coverage. But it's okay for now So here are pics from the transplant... The scrog... The trellis, and the start of flowering.