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Week 4 Dont water your plants with cold water. They go purple.

From my experience with line breeding, my observations have been that a true F1 hybrid(both P1 and P2, are vastly different genetically and past F3 in their own line), these plants display a very uniform phenotypical expression. From a breeding point of view there is no point going through a selection phase from such a true F1 generation. Any male and any female will do to get to the F2. F2 Generations where there is a recombination splits the line into two distinct or polarized phenotypical groups. The one group leaning toward the P1, and another from P2. Somewhere in the middle is the hybrid expression from F1. Working down the F line each generation you thin out and reduce the variation. From F4 you can start to consider the phenotypical expressions to somewhat stabilise to about 5 phenos. Fems it's very subjective, and as @Danksaid, is it just an F1 on top of an F1. Well then that's not an F1, or S1. It's an F2(S2) I.e. all the variation youd expect from an F2 generation. True S1 hybrid Fems, display only 2 phenotypes. Man it goes a lot more but I'm rambling now. Hope it helps.

Ok, I'll give it a shot. Entry #1 Dinafem's Blueberry Cookies in veg and mainlined.

Hope everyones doing great! I have a few things on my plate right now and too many things keeping me from reaching that desired budget to buy everything I want. Taking things slow, step by step and trying not to do anything by force, will get where I wana be sooner or later! For the time being, since my first DIY grow cupboard, I've always been collecting all sorts of parts and materials to use for a grow, as they happen upon my way. Just for in case, you know? I took cuttings from the plants I'm running in the tent at the moment, had them sitting in some jiffies in a humidity dome on a heat mat under a CFL. Did manage to get some roots within 15 days!!! Was quite happy about it, but the fucking heat of the CFLs burnt the leaves crispy brown. My mind and money is set on my DIY 300w QB with some samsung strips, then gona use the Apollo 8 blurple I have now for veg only. Didn't wana spend much, or anything really, but the CFLs had to go!!! Just to replace them I got one of those flood lights I'm reading about on the forum, checked out all the places around me that sells any kinda light, best I could find was a 50w, 3200Lumens, 6500Kelvin. For R530 with a 2 year warrenty and it's literally built for outdoors so can hose them down if I ever felt like it. I was lucky enough to happen upon a huge lump of reflective material. a Few pallet loads of chemicals that needed to be kept cool was shipped wrapped in diamond mylar. Literally feels the same as the material of the mars tents with the little square patterns. Thick, almost stays in the shape you bend it. I even have a hard time cutting it as it seems to have a bit of wire in it too, to make the square pattern. I obviously took all of it, because it was free and was going to get recycled anyway. On the farm we have quite a few "scrap materials" laying around. I asked boss man if I could have 2 x 5m wooden battons that are 2cmx2cm square. They cost like R60 a pole I think, but I got them free. I bought softwood cupboard panels, you get the one that's smooth matte white one side and rough wood brown on the other side then there's a smooth wood and rough wood sided ones. I already had my reflective material I went with the both sides wooden, because it was a little cheaper, but I'm sure you could use the white ones and skip on the reflective material and get the same results. I payed R155 for a 2m x 3m "sheet". Picked up the bigger version of the Hydor bathroom extractor for R400 quite a while ago. Had a small desk fan laying around, also a thermometer and hygrometer so didn't have to buy those. Odds - roll of ducktape, wood glue, pack of screws, 1 x ladies stockings, 2 of the smallest door hinges, pack of smallest screw-in hooks, 3mm x 2m chain, 5m wire and plug for light. Started with the 10m wood, cut 8 x 70cm pieces and 4 x 100cm pieces. Using my handy dandy wood glue and screws, I made 2 x 70cm squares with the 8 pieces and used the 4 x 100cm to mount the squares onto. So the space is 70x70x100. Quite alright for veg. Using the ductape I covered the softwood board with the reflective and stuck them to the wood frame, again using the glue then some screws. (The glue alsp helps fill gaps for light leaks) I used the blade from a metal saw with the fine teeth to cut squares in the bottom of the wood pannel for passive air intakes and I made a circle where the extractor fan is fitted. Extractor aswell as the passive intakes are covered with the ladies stockings, again using the ductape. Inside the passive intakes I cut an extra piece of mylar just to hang over the stockings to help with light leaking in there during lights off. I screwed 2 of the hooks in the top wood beams, hooked the chain from side to side, hung the light and plugged the whole bitch up! Basically a glorified propagation box. Here she is: Top right corner black circle is the stockings covered mouth of the extractor fitted with a ducting that links into the ducting from my other tent, this box thing stands next to my tent. Here is one of the passive intakes, to understand "the flap" a bit better. Also a close up of the reflective material. I planted the best 4 cuttings into their first pots. This is their home now untill flower time. I believe once I do get another tent I'll still keep this bad boy for further seed pops and maybe build a nice bubble cloner to fit. Happy growing!

Wait for the bottom to callous and stick it back in some cactus oil.

Biggest problem is smell is subjective. An hallucination at best. And then those feelings are subjective too. The same weed isnt going to have the same effect on me and you. Tolerance, other contra indicating medications we may be on etc. What is great about the human cannabis relationship is that it's as unique as each plant and individual is. Pure magic. But I get your point that you want a description, and the plant you grow out needs to meet that description. Tough one in a world where seed production practices are as varied in as many ways as there are breeders.

I should add that it also greatly depends on the particular strain, has it been selectively bred for certain traits for generations, or is it just a f1 hybrid on another f1 hybrid. Strains from the poly hybrid soup will give way more variation in my experience.

Greetings again... Things are going smoothly in the tent. I'm rearranging everything in and around the space, trying to create a better flow in the grow area so everything looks a bit better and is easier to work around. I had to apply some serious bondage to this tree a day ago as the colas were just flopping all over the place already, barely holding up their own weight. Watering will be a bit more difficult now but it can be done. These flowers have some major frost on them, these pictures just don't do it justice... Anyway, enjoy

Winter colours. Purple Russian Express

Happy growing..

I have seen a couple of products late. There is quite a high phosporous based product I saw recently. I have never used it but could be used. It is a group 2 fertilizer which is normally organic. Good time for it would be just after you switch to flower. A the moment I am top dressing with a bit of pot ash. I am in week 4 of flower. This is the first time I am feeding nutrients as such. If you have active microbial activity you could even do soft rock phosphate 2 weeks before you switch to flower. You could also do dried banana teas. Worms are always a good idea in your totes but you will need a good mulch layer. With maybe some cover crops such as red clover and dill and so on. Then you can feed with kelp and malted barly teas. Top dres with basalt rock dust, soft rock Phosphate and bone meal. Ok fuck I am to stoned dor this.

Just a lil update on the clone I toom from my Fastbuds Original Auto Amnesia Haze, she is reallly doing well and I'm surprised by the growth. She's in a soil mix feeding Biotrissol and switched to Bio Phyta for flower the mother was in coco feeding Horti Mix

I grow Coco/hydro only. I dont understand soil and all the natural stuff . i am however a bit of a Judas and when i saw the Just-cannabis claim to "no nutes needed just water" i was like Fuck no way. gada check it out. So R170 for a.bag of soil and a Lsp clone later boom. I'm impressed. will I do it again. more than likely not but not because it disnt come out nice cause it did. just not me

My one cross is literally the only one I've ever smelled that had grape scent, all these other things with grape had the scent of freshly tainted ass. I hate the smell of weed in general.

Howzit guys and girls. Everything these days seems to be about phenotypes. Do you think it is possible for a breeder to state which phenotypes to expect when they are selling you seeds? Or will it be to diverse to state this on a pack? Also do you think it is possible for then to list what phenotype is the desired one and how to identify it early on or is this to much to ask? Do you have thoughts on this? Leave your comment here.

Well no and yes. That's just the genetics. The dominant gene for this is as you state, but their is a recessive state gene where the plants have no problem pushing pistils from young in veg, as soon as sexual maturity has been reached, while males always carry the dominant gene and trigger on the light cycle only.

Totemic mostly covered it. You should read up on some literature on selective breeding, it can be a learning curve, but interesting https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2016.00210/full

Hi @SkunkPharm , in my view it is possible to a degree for indoor setups, providing enviromental controls are practically indentical to what the breeder/their growers use. A phenotype of a particilar seed is the way that those genetics are expressing themselves in a certain environment. I have grown the same clones in the same spot with different soils and phenotypical expression can vary with just a single variable changed. Then different seeds also have genetic variation, finding the exact phenotypes as the mom from seed is possible, but a difficult thing to "promise".

SO today these are at about 10 weeks. Autos definately takes longer than the time they indicate in theit sites. I think the one has about 2 weeks left and the others i think will go at least another month.

Entry No.1 almost time for micro flower

Well, I got her sealed all around and no more leaks. Bought a tub of "stag" from Agrimark. We use it on metal to metal water pipe connections for them to not get leaky over long time. It's like the "if all else fails" solution. She made her first brew and got poured off today, will feed the plants tonight. Didn't wana do anything too fancy since I'm still learning and only had few ingredients. I used ff premium classic mixed with some local soil from the earth, 1tbsp of trichcoderma, 100ml liquid vermipure and 30ml molasses. It really smells nice, must be the molasses. Got some bacterial build up inside the bucket, poured it off into another bucket and cleaned the vortex bucket and pipes and all. One problem, I noticed when I put the tea bag with all the goodies inside it breaks the vortex stream. So it just kinda moves around, but no vortex. I think I'm gona do a rebuild, using just one stream instead of two, hoping to increase the flow. I'm not sure if it will work, but I'll see.

Always let them dehydrate for a few weeks. Leave it as is, and when you plant it in a month or so, it will be eager to root, and wont easily rot.

Look all I want them to say is this is a stabilized strain the dominant phenotypes are floral flavors with hints of diesel and the super.stinky cheese. But now they call something cheese and it smells like Green Crack. I can see why people are moving away from names and are rather classifying things to how the make you feel. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

had to raise the cam for the Gorillas today and the light. They are coming excellent in 24/0 so far. I might even lean out of the window and say.. I get 85-90g average from those babes. And the canape.. you can't really make it better with scissors all the mains are within 10cm distance. Very much impressed with those Royal Gorillas from Royal Queen Seeds... so far ^^

If you have one looking for a home, I have a nice spot for her

This could just be a pheno expression on its own. we only look for more favorable phenos, strong stems, big buds, frosty, thin or fat leaves, long petiole, pest resistant.... They are all expressions and there are likely hundreds or thousands of minute differences that we don't notice. So it would be nice if the breeders gave a direction to look in... But it would just be a rough guideline and no promises can be made Also, it would make selling seeds harder because people would only buy seeds that can produce the best of the best... And so strains that aren't visually appealing to grow or grow weird will be completely avoided - even though the smoke report would melt your face. But in saying that... Most breeders do have an info line somewhere, either Facebook or Instagram or a website that you could ask those questions "what do you recommend I look out for"

Is it true that in stable lines you can only see if a plants is female or male when switched to 12 12?

I have 4 diaries on Growdiaries.com .. and got contacted by Sweet Seeds yesterday, if I want to be a seed tester, they like my diaries. I wrote back: I only do autos . Answer: "Then just select autos ;)" Even have some humor. But had a catch, they only send the seeds to my German address, not to SA. Hope that changes when we get legal seeds or a working Post Office . But I made a quick selection, Cream Caramel, Green Poison and Red Mandarine (not fair only 3 from about 25 to choose from ).. 4 seeds each and free shipping American Breeders rock.. never tried Sweet Seeds, looking forward to the tastes of those three. My aunties just have to send it further If they would have send from the US, i would have used my Planetexpress account. Anyone has an idea why they all ship from Spain these days?

Probably about 10m through 2 concrete walls. A wifi range extender should solve your problem if you are having problems.

Yoh guys. Lots of advise. Need to have a think about it now. Maybe getting some good seeds might be the easiest solution for now. Honestly the lights that i have were just to extend daylight hours in this winter period of ours. Not realy to be used for full on veg. I thought it would make a bit of a difference compared to having just really short days. Indoor grows. Amazing. Would love to do it. But probably not in the next year or so. Space and setup cost for that is what holds me back. Wont be trying that for the next year or so. Ideally i would just love to grow a plant or 2 on the balcony outdoors. In a pot. For now. I think im gona keep these going for abit longer. Fingers crossed. But really apreciate u guys taking the time for the advise. Thanks guys. Anyone feel like donating a clone or 2?

Week 3. Tent. Pics are of the AMG and Orange Kush Cake

My router is in the kitchen which is next to the garage. So I dont have a problem.

Cool bruh. Tea looks good. The ''teabag'' thing also messed with my setup- no vortex and all kinds of bits, sand and floaters etc. Tried a different technique, to avoid any solids in my brew bucket. Pour the ''solid ingredients'' from your teabag into a seperate bucket, add a few liters of water and stir vigorously to extract as much goodness and micro organisms as possible. Strain the ''mush'' and add that liquid to the brew bucket. Repeat. Then add nutrient source and molasses. It might not be 100% efficient at extracting all the goodness out of the solid material due to shorter contact time with the water, but its damn close. Works well for me, can't tell the diffs. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

@TheUltimateNoob Bro.... Sorry I was probably high and crossed 2 threads. My bad man. I will also be adding the perlite top layer to help avoid that soil runoff. And it looks epic like you said Thanx again for sharing the grow diary, it'll go far in guiding me. My washing machine is almost ready for the second top

Nioce improvise, love it Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

Cape Town Northen suburbs. They are in pots already so would not be able to post. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

Yo man! I am busy selecting plants to take forward to the next flower round and I have some that won't fit my space. If you're keen then they are yours... I'm also in midrand area. Hit me up with a PM if you're interested

Is part of the condition.. I have to post a diary for the free seeds.. nothing is really for free these days hehehehe but nice of the guys to let me test some of their beans

Yes I still have a couple. That doesn't have homes. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk

Dude you crack me up had a good lag now at your thread with how many times you replied to the range question haha Love it! So amped to watch your orange Kush cake! Do you have cuttings?

Can I enter a vegging plant?

Thank you for those kind words man... The training method I used in that journal will be my go-to method for any future grows, it's really efficient and easy to manage. Unfortunately with regards to who mentioned Seagro. I haven't used it before and I don't remember mentioning it - it may have been one of the other members. Sorry bro... I use the GH Flora tripack for nutrients - it's salt based.

Fair point! If you look at it.. when I started growing, my first light nearly ruined me financially .. and compared to what we get now, starting to grow indoors was never cheaper.

@afternoon blazer yo dude! dont get disheartened! these guys have all been where you are and are just honesty trying to give you a realistic view of what will happen. @Totemic raised a very important note about being religious with taking the plant inside everyday and outside everyday - at the same time everyday - for the remainder of the plants life. if you give them as much sun as possible during the day and an area that does not get disturbed by light AT ALL EVER at night you should end up with something that will be a bit better than your average corner shwagg and do yourself a flavour - buy even just one seed of a particular cultivar - even the cheaper seeds are better than bagseed. i would keep your seeds going none the less, give them all the sun you can possibly give them. and then into darkness at night. the days are pretty short currently which is fine for flowering. i would even consider not running a veg period. what this means for you is a shorter day period and a longer night cycle. probably close to 10:14 . if i were you, i would take your plants inside at night and keep them pitch black from tonight even. the plants will be smaller, but will still be decent enough to be proud of.

Very nice, shall be following.

I get you. I get you. But right now im not looking for best final product. I just want to grow something until harvest. Once i accomplish that. I can purchase good seeds and soil and nutrients. Wana try the grow just to get to the end with the min for now. With covid 19. Cant afford to spend on the good shit. Without know WTF im doing properly.

Update on the Royal Gorilla. Definitely a well balanced toke, good for either the day or night. Maybe a bit too much on the sativa side for any heavy couch-lock like the GDP, so you can still get yourself to doing the more menial tasks of the day. Smoked for the first few times you can feel a headband like experience around the forehead which is something new from anything I've grown before. I must say the aromas are not very harsh or distinctive, I noticed this also during the grow when flowering. No real smell or terpenes to the bud, although what can be smelt falls on the citrus side. Definitely is going on my grow again list. Most well balanced bud and good for the general experience. Goldilocks kinda stuff

Update I forget to mention in my previous update, but I am sure it is very obvious from the picture aswell, one of the blueberry plants got removed from the tent as space was running out. So here we have the other Blueberry right in front on the left, next to her is the Super Lemon Haze, behind her is Banana Hammock and in the left back corner is Cheeeeeese. A week later and it looks like they exploded into the new pots, was hoping for a lot more stretch, but will do a complete defo, raise the lights and give them another week before flip and see how they react. I just add a little liquid vermi pure and some molasses to the water and ph it to 6.7 to 7.3. Foliar feed with Phyta from Biogrow. Got mycoroot and richoderma mixed in the soil for some activity, will be giving AACT once I get the first batch done. Got my pump a few days ago, so the bitch is a brewin'! I always like this 'under canopy' shot

2nd June. The freedom farms soil plant over took the plant in my soil. But way further into flower.

I am just going to revive this thread as I have started up the grow tent again now that it is to cold to grow outdoors. At the moment doing some 30:1 Dr Seedsman CBD. And Spumoni Orange Kush Cake and Diesel. And I decided to give Autoflowers another go. Fastbuds Original Cheese is the strain. They are by far the biggist autos I have done. Also the tent received some upgrades. New fans, wifi switches and a heater. So far it is looking good the pics was taken one week after switching into flower.