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Thanks for the great service, Sean!!! Press came in Friday.. looks a lot better as expected for the price.. zeroooooo complains from this side! And best.. works like a charm can recommend his product 100%

It's just too cold for that at the moment. But in theory yes, that's the way to go for outdoor

Yea, due to not having a flower light or able to get one right away, my advice was to use the sun as much as possible because the veg light is just that, a veg light. So full sun and supplemental light during the night for a pinch extra. I feel that will provide better results in his situation than just the veg light

Good day. I currently have allot of miggies/bugs in my indoor tent. Will try and see how they got in there. Probably not ideal for them to be in there. How do I get rid of them. Any advice?

Awe @StickyD420 so basically i dont like to use toxix stuff, messes up soil biology. States on the label that its toxic and harmful to bees, fish and wildlife. Just a heads up the mention for DE was in regards to gnats, not really mites. However if use the DE correctly during veg (extra silica) you could end up with plants strong enough to withstand mites.

Welcome to the forum @PeeWee They most likely come from your soil. U can use diatomaceous earth as a topdressing during veg, as well as stickystrips. I say veg cause it will provide silicate which can cause a dark ash when used too much in flower. Some growers cover the tops of their pots with silicate sand or perlite, this sjould also keep them away. Good luck. Edit, forgot to say, karbadust is toxic, i wouldnt use it in my garden.

Sounds lekker man, Ethos has some nice gear. Feel free to start a "Line up" thread in the "Whats in your stable" section of the group, there you can showcase your motherplants if u wanted too. As the thread grows it will be easy to go see the LineUp threads of growers for those sharing cuts.

Here's a good explanation on trichome colours for harvesting. Bit you need some magnification- jewelers loupe etc. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

don't worry.. auto talk in a auto diary brings info to the person reading it. I post a picture tomorrow again. They are very much in flower mode now

Hey there bud. Yea, In my case they're wilting like that because I've overwatered. Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk

What's up fellow farmers. Iv also got my first bun in the oven as most of u know. . I see the leaves are curling down. This could be if the light is to close. Please correct me if I'm wrong guys. Make sure the hole in the cup are not blocked to store water. I normally wait till the pot is noticeably lighter. Happy growing guys.

The youngsters don't need full sun, leave the moisture dome on to shade them a bit. Just have them under the light as much as possible. Once flower.. your job to place them max sun all the time

You might leave her outside when grown to a certain size.. but first 2 weeks he has to get them in.. one cold shock and the project comes to a sudden stop I see no advantage to put blue light on during flower, worst is you get her to stretch. Put her on your roof, so she gets max sun possible. And best is to get her in.. warm roots help growing, cold slows down.

Transplanted to fabric pots Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk

Im loving this process of controlled growing like this in the hopes to find a real beauty and be able to use her in future grows!

If plants could read, those schedules would make more sense . Run the sheet so you know what week you are in for feeding. Rest, lift them morning and evening and if they are super light, feed them with the dosage set for this week. Wet the pot top to bottom, then back to the daily lifting game.

Thanks @Bakstein420 I see that stuff also does Army Worms and Caterpillars, and many other things, very good recommendation Added, I had an infestation of Army Worms last outside grow, and they ate the buds from inside out, bastards

Hi@Peewee, looks like Fungus Gnats, they irritate us more than the plant mostly. You can use Pyrol, Neem or even ground cinnamon sprinkled on top of your medium. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

Tomorrow feels like a special day Very exciting times

@Fridgedoor @Fridgedoor yo man, give your bag a swift jerk up and down. It takes me 2 mins to drain a 25 litre bag. 24 hours is ridiculous

Yo @CreX and @StickyD420 bright ass floodlight low on my balcony looks abit dodgy guys. Also temps fluctuate too much. Thats why i made that small grow box and to maximize on the light. Discreet. So warn sunshine during the day. And stable low 20 degree temps at night in the grow box with the light about 400mm away. I do have fans in the box to move shit around abit.

Howzit bro. Ok so roof is out. I do have a balcony i could grow on. About 10/11 hours of direct sunlight (moving them around). Then will supplement with the veg light for the rest of the time to make up 24 hours of light.

Would you suggest less light in flowering then Prom? Wouldn't it be better to use the sun all the way through grow, and add extra light at night when the sun goes down to keep it longer awake?

Why not.. little experiment ^^ if you don't mind the few bugs, give her 24/0 till flower, then Sun Sun Sun Sun, no need to run the veg light anymore. I know the sun packs enough power, 2200 micromol more then enough.. just duration.

Yup! Now it's just up to @afternoon blazer to bring her in every day and out every morning and then he will be rewarded at the end

Yea, likely high CBD and low THC... But also doesn't look like the nicest yeilding pheno of whatever the strain was. Regardless.... The amount of time you dried for would not have had that much of a detrimental effect on the bud so as to make it not get you high. My guess is perhaps you let it get too much sun while it was drying, but even then, it should have got you high. Another possibility is that you cut her too early. All good though man! What do you have sprouting now?

Very good thinking Use what you have free, and add the extra when the sun fades. Brilliant advice brother

Perfect brother, Now water again only next weekend Sunday again. No matter the urge to water before hand, wait it out brother man.

Thanks bud and you @StickyD420. I wanted to get this right the first time round. Coming from cfl's I'm yet to experience the power's of led. I don't want to be tempted to hang the lights to close.

I had mine at 55cm in seedling and veg and I've since lowered it to 40cm a week ago. They seem to be happy with the light at that height. No stretching at 55cm and no burn at 40cm. I read somewhere on the growopz website that it could be as close at 20cm from the canopy.

The wheel always turns. Keep honest, deliver on your word, try your best and life should be easy sailing.

Lucky duck. My lows drop to -2

They can talk kack, can't they?!

Very nice bud. Well done. [emoji109] Sent from my SM-A700F using Tapatalk

Yo @420SA , thanks for the platform making it all possible I want to offer to send you some of my cuts, if there is nothing from other members you would rather grow. I might only be able to send em off rooted by next month this time, but I can offer you some choices. I have the WeddingCake I sent to @1000Hills Nursery, but during this winter grow I managed to stress her out enough that she made nanners, so wouldn't really call her a Elite Cut, even though she dank as hell and hits like Mike Tyson. I got 2 different Black Dogs from Humboldt Seed Organisation, pro's is a quick flowering time, nice terps and stoney, downside, a bit sensitive to the bottled nutrients in high doses, also a bit weak against PM. Exodus Cheese, she's nice Blue Cheese from Dinafem, liking her more and more each time i flower one of her cuts. I have some others but the above I can have rooted by end of next month at the latest. The CBD is nice but very stretchy, not really indoor stash, but nice to pop a clone outside in summer. Guys please feel free to drop your offers here for @420SA, im just getting the ball rolling. Vrede ouens

Here are June's SOTM winners! 2nd place @Camille 1st Place @StickyD420 We had a tied vote with 2 of his pics... they were WELL DONE GUYS! @StickyD420 please can you PM me the following details: Your name Delivery Address Contact Number @Camille you will be receiving your TheHighCo coupon code shortly

Week 10 has started Day 1 Week 10 And here is week 9 in motion.. dark times are Eskom load shedding related. I bumped the tent from the outside.. cam go moved a little, you will see.

@TheUltimateNoob. Welldone brobeans. Looks awsome and effective. Great simple solution. Big up to u bro for some out the box thinking.

It's coming bro... I swear, lol. Will have the thread up tonight for you guys. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

All looks well [emoji1362] Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Have been giving this some thought, how about the prizes go to "best diaries", which the judges can deliberate over scrutinize plants etc, but in saying 420sa is looking for the best diary, gives the incentive for growers to be op it. BTW well done on the previous competitions guys, thought it was pretty cool regardless, and paving the way for SA CannaCulture

As far as plant variation. I supplied F4 genetics and regulars at that. That alone made it difficult to judge even for myself that knows the line very well. The next growoff I sponsor, I will be providing feminized S1 seeds. That will level the playing field and give more consistancy to the pheno issue.

I agree, a variety of strains makes things difficult. We noticed an issue with the different pheno's in the indoor grow off already (possibly similar issues with the outdoor as well). If no limit on how many grows a person has done, I still feel a combination of post counts and duration the person has been a member on the forum for will be a good way to sift out a few people who in my opinion are less likely to stay as an active forum member and therefore continue to update their grow diary and compete with the competition. What I did find interesting was how many people struggled to germinate their seeds properly and could not compete or had to try get more seeds as they could not germinate seeds properly. So perhaps the person should at least have 1 grow done if this is something we want to try avoid. Keep in mind if a newbie wants to grow along with the more experienced members who are part of the grow off, there is no reason the newbie cannot purchase the seeds from the breeder and grow them as well - they just won't be part of the comp but can still gain the experience and learn from those in the competition as it's still the same seeds and pheno types and they can even germinate on the same dates etc. We can do a separate page to sign up, however if they stop being active on the forum it won't matter and I do not see how it differs all that much compared to someone reading the rules thread on the forum... Unless there were to be questions asked based on the rules so that they need to read the rules to be able to answer the questions and sign up for the competition. This still won't force someone to honour the rules and finish the grow but helps ensure people actually read the rules and there is confirmation that they have accepted the rules. As for a Telegram chat, I am concerned that people may start talking about their grows in the chat instead of sharing the info on the forum for the other forum members. In terms of communication if there is an issue, whether it is on Telegram, the forum via your mobile browser or Tapatalk it's all much of a muchness really. One thing I think could possibly be improved upon is the criteria of which the plants will be judged on. For example, if someone is only growing a single plant at the time (say in a 1.2m x 0.7m tent) they can allow that plant to get larger than someone who is growing a few plants in the same sized tent. Does this mean the person who has decided an entire tent on just one plant has a higher chance of having the "better" plant? Also a plant which has been trained vs one which has not had any training, the one with no training would generally end up taller than the plant which has been trained. Depending on the criteria of how a plant will be judged, the above could affect the outcome and skew how "fair" the outcome is.

Hmm, 5 grows is quite a substantial amount of time. An average grow would take around 4 to 5 months from seed to harvest, perhaps even a little longer depending on the strains. That is someone who has been growing for around 2 years back to back, provided they only have a single grow going on at a time. If you have multiple grows going on at one, it does reduce the amount of time quite a bit though. If you're thinking of having the grow off as a way to show case some of the best growers, this is a good way to ensure that is the case however majority of people who have been growing since it has been "legal" are most likely not going to have 5 grows just yet. Depending on when the grow off is meant to start and how many people end up legible for it - perhaps consider reducing the number of grows for the first grow off or two? If there are only 5 people in the comp for instance, not as much fun if there were a few more competitors. Also as you said not as much appeal for companies to sponsor the grow off.

It has been great to watch my seeds being grown out. The biggest thing for me was the sheer amount of seeds that went out, and the tiny proportion that bothered to take part stood out. I personally was hoping for more, but it us what it is, and many were just after the seeds I guess.

Don't worry I fully agree on that. Prizes involving gear etc. is definitely the end goal. Was just a thought in case we don't pick up any prize sponsors

Thanks for the input guys. After reading your inputs here are my thoughts on the best way forward: Instead of aiming too high with the competition I think we should start it small and build participation by means of qualification. The competition will be geared more for members of 420SA The competition will be more exclusive with specific qualification criteria to be met if you want to participate. Qualification criteria to be discussed. The goal is for the growoff to be an exhibition of the country's finest growing talent pitted against each other. Having a pool of accomplished growers also benefits the breeders who sponsor their genetics. I.e. they get a much truer indication of the performance of their genetics. A win for all parties involved. With a narrowed down participation pool, it may not be viable to offer prizes in the beginning but we can see how that pans out. Qualification criteria: I don't think post count alone is good enough to qualify. The member needs to be a proven grower with grows to show. They need a minimum post count of 50 They need to have a minimum of 5 completed grows under the belt. They can either direct us to grows on the forum or provide images of 5 of their grows. Finally there will need to be some sort of approval committee setup to make the final approval. This committee can be elected by forum members Perhaps an entry fee may need to be charged but we will discuss that a bit later. On the other hand, and I'm not sure on the legalities, but what if all growers paid in an amount at the beginning and the sum of these fees gets split amongst the 1st, 2nd and 3rd winners? Is that considered gambling? probably...

Nominal Entry fee is a good idea, should 1. subsidise seed delivery, 2. Contribute to prize 3. Commit to completing grow

I feel the issue with people receiving seeds and not participating happened more with the newer members. So perhaps have a minimum post count required in order to participate and/or they have to have been a member for x amount of weeks / months. Regarding sponsors and prizes, may be best that they send it to you and then it gets distributed from there - that way the prize is confirmed and secured.... Although this does create a slight issue with shipping as someone would need to cover shipping from you to the winner. Rules were pretty straight forward I felt, easy to understand. People are easily able to ask questions and refer back to the rules if need be... Maybe try and do a single consolidated thread with all rules and start dates etc. I recall something being split the last time and there were like 2 or 3 threads depending on what info you wanted - I think it was the prizes and rules were separate.

Well done man. They are looking good