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Went out to the farm again today. All the chocos are kicking into reveg mode. These are going to be monstrous. They are starting the season with stems thicker than my thumb. There is this one pheno though that is going to carry the F5 generation.

#3 - All fades

Interesting read. I dont work with autos. It's actually one of the traits I select against. To me, this plant can reveg, so it's not an auto. Its photoperiod. Just because it's a recessive auto, does not give it a place as an auto. We cant start using our recessive traits as marketing points. They are recessive as in do not express, so the consumer will never come across them in his/her plants. Work the next generation and get that auto trait to dominate then you can call it an auto. Only once a plant flowers in 24/7 is it an auto imo.

It's awesome to have good genes bred in our local environment. These are going to be sought after.. As a Outdoor grower especially..

@Bakstein420, ah man that sucks! Hope the remaining plant will do it's best to compensate for the loss. I agree with @afternoon blazer. Also love autos. I find they have their place in cultivation but I guess they aren't the best choice for everyone. I prefer variety over quantity. Plus as an outdoor grower I can enjoy the fun of harvest several times a year. But yeah they are more finicky than their bigger photo-sisters. I'm going to germinate mine soon. T-3 days. Oh one big upside for me is that in the Cape PM only comes towards the end of the season. It's good to have some bud save in the jars before 'PM season' starts.

Day 28 for these girls already. GTH #1 Slurricane Blunicorn

So I decided to grow some autos outdoors to replenish my stash while I mainline the Ethos ladies. I grabbed a 5 pack of Fastbud's C4 but lost 4 of the seedlings to heavy winds. The remaining survivor went in the cupboard to help her get established before facing the outdoor forces. I slowly introduced her to life beyond the wall till she started pushing pistils recently.

Done

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Looks good, I assume you've gone up to 2ml/L now? You could slowly start to increase to 3ml and then shortly after 4ml - I found no need to go above 4ml/L during veg - but that was with fish mix. During stretch (so from when you flip the plants to flower) you can run a low dose of grow and then start introducing bloom. You then stop the grow completely after 3 weeks and run just bloom until harvest. You will always use way more bloom than grow or fish mix.

You can buy ladybugs, but not sure you can do so in SA. You can get swarskimites though, they're predatory mites and will eat some pests.

Yeah bro . As mentioned above theres many variants to consider. But remember to get a good wet dry cycle going to allow the roots to travel for water. Better to under feed then over feed.

What up bro @Bakstein420. loosing 4 out of 5 must feel like a kick in the nuts. Especially since u got some fire genetics. . But the 1 lady looks good bro. Atleast the colour is starting to push through too. @DamDave autos do get abit of a bad rep. But i personally love those things. Its too simple and easy to grow. Especially since all u gota do is feed. Yield might be on the low side. But then i just run multiple plants.

Yeh 100%, well said, i forgot to add that the market for Autos was created under the 24/0 schedule back in the day. (That was the main hype) As soon as it can veg at 24/0 hours there will be growers in the market saying its not a Auto. Any Fastbuds strain can be grown at 24/0 without issues, in my mind that is a Auto.

please elaborate on this.. i am of the opinion that an auto is an auto and will not react to the hours of light it gets... it sprouts, it flowers, it dies.

You too. May it be the greenest one yet.

All part of the learning curve. I dont think it ever stops. Autos are actually a good place to learn from your plants, as you have a few extra visually confirmable traits to select from. Working with the same lines you really get to know what a parent can add or take away from the progeny after a while. Once you get to the next generation you get more choice as previously recessive traits start showing up as dominant. How much stress testing do you do on your plants? I for example run 24/7 veg to root out autos from my populations. Youd most certainly need to run and test different veg cycles, as I'm sure you'll find plants on a scale... ie they might veg in 20/4, but flower trigger at 14 hours etc.

I use the table below

Boveda packs are awesome and surely the way to go as far as I am concerned. I do not feel they are very expensive, considering how long they last. I have purchased a few boveda packs and some are over 2 years old and still good. Have not dried up yet. Gone through a few harvests. There are ways to rehydrate them too I believe, I have yet to try this but worth a shot to see if you can squeeze some extra life out of your Boveda pack. The Boveda's are a small price to pay to ensure a quality cure, why ruin your entire grow and all the time and effort spent by cheaping out and not getting a few boveda packs? Both the 62% and 58% work really well. I prefer 58% for my vape, but 62% keeps the bud moist for longer obviously. So you can use a combination depending on your needs and what you plan on smoking first - personal preference too. I know some prefer 62% for smoking but for vaping I really do feel 58% works a bit better.

Greetings @Dank , Have you watched the movie "Kiss the Ground"?

Well snap

They looking good @silverdelange

Looking good bud. Are you in the freedom farms soil?

Coming along nicely.

Definitely agree. These stones are to keep tobacco moist. As a former rollie tobacco smoker, I surely would have benefitted from one of those stones; although I always managed to smoke my tobacco before it got too dry. I wouldn't ever suggest one of these stones for curing. Rather stick with Boveda packs. Stay away from those jutt Integra kak humidty packs. Those red-dot humidity indicators are poisonous.

I've heard some good things and the people that head it up are super friendly and welcoming. @TheUltimateNoob It's deep South Check on your GPS - Between De Deur and Eikenhof.

@Totemic Yes, the more i look into this the more i realize we fucked up. They shouldn't have been labled autos. We flowered them under 18/6 and i thought its all cool. I honostly thought the autoflowering gene was the dominant gene and breeding with any autos would result in autos. I dont want to makè something cool and not be able to keep clones. Those 290 seeds are sold out and gone and the weird part is the reviews coming in are all positive.

Depends on grower, strain & individual plant some are more thirsty than others, you'll get a feel for each ones requirements + every grower has their own beliefs lol Personally speaking I usually water with 30% of pot volume every 3rd day with feeding on every 3rd cycle (once weekly) and i havent had any issues if the seedling is under two weeks ill only water with 10% pot volume and only add more if I see plant needs it When trying to figure out nute strength best would be to use an EC pen - typically seedlings can safely take solution with etc of 0.5 - 0.7 until they 2/3weeks (I prefer to use castings or used filter coffee) - Vegetative stage u can start pumping ec up to 1.3-1.7 - flowering 1.3-2.0 - you could wing it without an EC pen but for the price they definately worthwhile

My first three plants are coming along well at the end of their second week. I am busy brewing the LABs and ordering buckets etc. Does anyone know where I can get 20 or 25 litre black buckets with lids in Cape Town that don't cost an arm and a leg? I am likely going to order from Jhb and ship because it appears that Jhb has more competitive prices. I'm making a banana tea for flower, and will feed with an SST kelp blend for veg. I'm getting excited to try all these yummy organics and see what results I get. The sun was out for a few days... nice.

Looking really good, awesome stuff!!

Day 28

This might just, be the first reveging auto mother ever... This phenomenon might never before be documented... But this is the nice thing about the forum... all will be revealed in a few months time... I learn new things every day.. on the forum and off... 26 years ago when I had my first joint I never for the life of me thought that there is so much to learn about the plant... Not even talking about breeding...

yea, that link @swumsent has some pretty interesting arguments full of words like "Semi-Auto" and "fast" "crappy genetics" and it would seem that not alot of info is out there about them. but they seem to have a place, or at least they are gaining popularity. i mean, i would love a fast auto flowering high yielding plant ... but in the same breath, i can get a Fast photo flowering high yielding plant instead

@CreX i have grown more than a few autos under 24/0 back in the days in London town. Like u said. They sprout. They flower. They finish off. I wouldnt believe everhthing i read from uncle Googs Using a differnt light cycle than 24/0 for a auto is already weird to me.

Thats flowering times bud, they still list them as feminized or auto.

Photo x auto crosses will start and finish flowering a little earlier than the photo parent. Yes, they will flower with a little more light than the pure photo parent would. They are usally a bit bigger.

Thanks guys. There is no damage yet. The bigger ones looked a lot like the 7 spotted ladybird. Will keep an eye on them. Thanks a lot.

i agree with @Dank it looks to me like some sort or lady bug, maybe one still developing its colours. At any rate, if its not making visible kak... then leave it be, it might be chowing the bugs that do cause kak

Any pictures of the bigger ones, also how big, similiar to a ladybird? I think it could be part of the ladybug family, i would vote friend if there is no damage.

Hey bro. Not sure what those little guys are. Have you noticed any markings on the leaves or any patches being eaten? Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will stop by and comment.

The Banana Monkey Autoflower is coming along. Not every day you see a revegging auto motherplant that gave hundreds of seeds is standing next to her children. The sick little one in the front is a rescue attempt '' Royal ak''. Had a soil ph of 4.3 when i got her.

Also just started a few new seeds. 11/12 Geminated . Really looking forward to the Frisian Duck.

Another week another update. Plants are doing well. I hope to see the sex in the coming days. Started with Biobizz Biogrow today. I am somewhat cautious on how much to use. Some say 2ml, others say 1ml per litre. Sticking to 1ml per litre for now. I welcome any advice on this.

No no don't try it . Just to be on the save side, when I said PM I mean powdery mildew. Last season I had to deal with it and it wasn't fun. And last season was also the first season that I had to water in the evening too, as it got so hot during the day. I think I got powdery mildew on some plants because I watered in the evening. This season I'll get bigger pots, only water in the morning and if necessary I'll do a bit of defoliation to hopefully prevent PM in future.

2 weeks later and the seeds are developing. 3-4 weeks from harvest. CNL #1 CNL #2 CNL #3 Green Crack Slurricane Orange Kush Cake Looking forward to the first warm sunny week of the season.

Update time... @Dank check it out bro... The exos chillin in some coco here on the east coast... Remember sending me some fresh cuttings straight of the moms. We didn't have high expectations but agreed it was worth a shot seeing as you were already sending me other gear. Well bro... Roots roots roots. So 420sa this is proof that if you want to donate a few cuts to other members you don't need to go thru the whole cloning process and special packaging. A ziplock bag and some wet leaves is all you need.

I think it would benefit tobacco more than cannabis. When I smoked rollies my bag tobacco would dry out within a couple of days after opening. Half my life I've been smoking dry weed because I didn't know any better