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Hi folks, So I am currently 3 weeks and 2 days into flower and shit is starting to take off. I did a massive last clean up and stripping of the stems to try and make sure I don't have any fluff and enough airflow/light penetration. I couldn't really go all out on the Jelly Breath as she just looks too beautiful and all the bud sites are sizeable enough for me to leave them on and see how they develop. In terms of early tricome development we definitely have a winner. The OSG Cheese is unreal she reminds me of the Oni Uppercut that I grew and she was frosty AF. I am very happy we kept a cutting of her and can't wait to start smelling the OG Exo Cheese terpenes. The White Bubblegum is also showing some nice early tricome development and she has a very distinct strawberry gum smell to her. The clean up might look a little bit excessive but I feel confident this was what was needed. So here we go folks! White Bubblegum White Afghan Skunk Purple Dosidos Sunset Sherbet S1 Blunicorn Jelly Breath Super Silver Haze 98 OSG Cheese Tent front view Tent side view

Drying & Curing Update: Hows it growing growmies, hope everyone is getting into a festive mood despite the circumstances we find ourselves in. So we have harvested, dried and are now curing our buds. They were air dried at 20 - 22c and at 65% Rh. A little hotter than I'd like so was able to dry them for 7 days instead of the 10-14 days I usally achive. Total dried weight just little above 400 All buds in the jars have a reading of 60 - 67%RH with the one (K-2) being the only one at 67%, 1 week of burping it and it's been brought down to a steady 62% They total curing period at the moment is 2 weeks, with the RH at perfect zone we will do a further cure for atleast anther 6 weeks Next up we ll do a smoke report. Happy Xmas & a happy new year for all

couldn't have said it better myself this forum is such a select few of us out of the thousands of growers out here in SA, yet I've even seen people asking for landraces on here. couldn't keep count on all my fingers and toes how many times I've heard it in person aswell and I have yet to meet all the growers in SA. very true! this is why I love strain hunters and what they do, they're perfect for the job and I assume there are quite a few guys contributing to the preservation of genetics and for that we are all thankful, but imagine the bricky at the build site talking bout building skyscrapers and bridges in his backyard, it's possible, but sounds a little funny and is going to take some time. maybe it's just me worrying too much about nothing hahah

@Naughty.Psychonaut Nobody wants to grow landraces. Us humans have been trying to grow better plants (not just cannabis) for a looong time now and we have managed to get it right multiple times and have ended up with "improved" crops of all sorts over the years. Bigger fruit, better fruit, more enjoyable etc. etc. Selective breeding has been going on for a loooong time, it also takes a long time to get a crop to where you'd like it to be. I do not understand the infatuation some people have with landrace cannabis strains...

Hi Damdave, I appreciate the feedback. I have posted some text for reply to others and will try to start all over again. The propergation is going well using some photoperiods!. Will start these in smaller pots to start with using normal potting soil + a decent amount of Perlite this time. I will also try a few auto's again and plant straight into finishing pot, however this time I will try and cover pot if we have heavy rain and keep control of the moisture content. Time will tell...... Have a groovy Christmas....

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I get the fact that majority of home growers would not like to grow it, or would not like the experience even if they got the chance to grow lets say a African landrace that takes like 14 - 16 weeks to flower and then you end up with string weed. But when it comes to the cannabis industry they are really important, especially in terms of research for medical use even rec. For breeding I mean its always good to have them for whatever reason, they could possibly become the building blocks to something completely new in the future.

Get one bag of premium soil like Orgasoilux or Freedom Farms that you keep just to start seeds in. Wet the soil once and then plant the seeds 1 cm down. Keep inside in a warm spot until they germinate.They should pop the surface before needing to be rewatered. If the surface dries out before then you should spray the surface with a mist bottle. With good soil and not overwatering you shouldn't have any issues for the first two weeks. You really only need one seed. Four days later. Today

Not really, landraces are domesticated varieties. Just extremely isolated and inbred for generations to the point where they have adapted to the region they are grown in edit: I'm not botanist so my explanation is super simple I'm trying to find a link I have about wild vs landrace vs cultivar but I can't seem to find it 2nd edit: I can't find the link but basically if we talking about a starting point in the breeding evolution or whatever it goes wild > landrace (domesticated/cultivated by humans) > cultivars (selective breeding for desired traits). I might be wrong extremely wrong !

If he hasn't got access to cannabis soil could he not try soil for tomatoes at the local nursery and work from there. Sent from my S40 using Tapatalk

this clears things up the soil you use is nearly the most important part of it all brother! those bags of soil are generic premixes, not really suited for cannabis growing, you can use it but you going to have to change it a lot before your cannabis will be happy in it. buying soil that is premixed for growing cannabis is going to change your game for sure! I'll recommend freedom farms premium classic. it costs a whole lot more than those bags you got, but for good reason! soil science is crazy important when growing any kind of plant, I have used a lot of generic brands of soil and have found the most important thing is consistency. those bags you got there are also cheap for a reason, it's highly inconsistent. some bags are very sandy, some bags have a lot of bark, some bags will form clay or mud after a while and clog itself and become anaerobic and "dead". buying some cheap soil you really gotta know how to use it, like sifting out the bark, because cannabis wants literally no bark by its roots, adding the right amount of stuff such as perlite, vermiculite, coco peat aswell as doing runoff testing to see what PPM you working with and if it is suitable for what you wana do and know what to do if it isn't, like flushing your medium with correct PPM water till you reach desired PPM if it was too high. or if it's too low you gona have to add an array of different organic ammendments to get it up to the right PPM you need. also, you mentioned drainage, big part of soil science is aeration and the availability of fresh oxygen at the root zone. every plant desires a differnent condition, cannabis likes a 40 to 50% moisture around its roots, but luckily it's one of the more versatile shrubs when looking at watering schedule, although the most notable thing here is that on a moisture scale of 0 to 100 it prefers it on the lower side below 50%. the easiest take from this is you'll need to cycle wet/dry periods every 3 days or you might risk depriving your roots of oxygen. if you have a different situation you might need to change up your conditions. Move the plant around if it's in a pot, get it out of the storms, out of long rain cycles and all that. If the plant is straight in the earth, make sure they're covered during those times, they handle water better, although wouldn't be able to grow in dead/no drainage soil either. so really just way easier buying cannabis crafted soil, I promise you if your roots aren't happy, your plant wont be happy, and the only way to get good roots is with good soil. the soil is literally your foundation brother, the soil needs A LOT of your love and attention ✌

Many thanks for all the responses. Looks like I will start over and try again!. Rather not say which supplier because it may well be me at fault and not their seeds and so it wouldn't be fair to mention their name. I understand fully that Auto's can be 'picky' with the whole outside growing thing. Have a friend who has given me some photoperiod seeds and so will try with them along with some more auto's from same supplier but different brand. I didn't realize the type of soil could be an issue!. First off I used 'ordinary' off the shelf stuff (photo attached). My mistake here....I think....is I should have added a decent amount of Perlite to this soil?. I realize also that last time I grew I had access to bags of soil that were specifically designed for cannabis. Seems I have to be a little more inventive now!. Yesterday I got a bag of 'Rose soil' from the local agri to try. From what I gather after reading these forum suggestions is that this 'rose' soil would probably be way too rich in nutrients?. When I propergated my first 6 auto's they went straight into the big pots as I knew they don't like to be transplanted. They popped no problem then a day after we had a rain storm and the soil was drenched even though there is drainage the soil remained wet in my pots for too long!. I have some photoperiods germinating now. The weather has stabilized. Will use normal potting soil with perlite mixed in (+/-35%). Will start photoperiods in small containers and try auto's again straight into finishing pot. Happy days,.....live and learn.....never give up, OR , there's always the rasta on a corner somewhere. Will post an update on progress OR lack of.

Howzit man. Oudtshoorn, remember those school days, hot and dry. First time growing autoflower my side. I popped into shot glass for 24 hours then into final pot outdoor in a shade house. Similar condition where I live hot, dry and strong winds to top it off. I put a 2l coke bottle humidity dome over the one's I planted early spring when it was still freezing until seeds popped above ground and kept them on for a few days. The one's planted a week or so back went into shot glasses, final pot but no dome this time. I did have to check twice a day to make sure the soil was not dry though. I kept the area where the seed was moist until it broke ground with a spray bottle and continued for the first week. Out of 50 planted about 8 did not break ground.. Unfortunately I had a high male count. Sent from my S40 using Tapatalk

Very happy plants brother.

hey buddy, welcome to the forum, hope all is well your side who/where did you get your seeds from? you got any more?? this is not recommended for auto seeds when growing them, but you can test their viability by leaving them in a cup of water for 12 to 24hrs. if after 12hrs they're still floating, give a slight tap with your finger tip to see if any sinks to the bottom. the sinkers are for sure viable, leave the floaters till the 24hr mark, give another small tap to see if any sinks. the sinkers are viable and should pop (though maybe not with the autos) the floaters have high probability of being duds. if they all float, contact the seed supplier to see if they don't wana be generous enough to replace them. technically they don't have to, but some seed banks do. the reason I say it's not recommended when growing auto seeds is because generally with autos you wana pop the seed right in its final pot with no intention to ever repot and never interfere with them or else you hinder them too much and they turn on you, but in your situation you kinda need to test if they're any good at all. if you growing autos you have no need to concern yourself with what time of the year it is since autos grow and flower independant of light cycles. some seasoned growers keep auto seeds on hand so they have something to pop in winter when they can't pop photoperiods, specifically for the reason that they don't have to worry about what time of year it is. only when growing photoperiods outdoors you need to follow the seasons. sowing in spring, vegging through spring and summer, flower in fall through winter. but really if you look at the seasons here in SA, we start spring in Sept, but this year everyone who had plants outside in Sept. had early flowers, because the seasons are all fucked cause of that global warming thing. so we focus more on hours of light. any spot in your garden that gets 16hrs or more of sunlight will be the spot to veg a plant, anything less than 16hrs you probably gona induce flowers. so even if you got a photoperiod it will act as a auto, starting to flower really soon. seeing as you dealing with auto seeds, in your defence, they have a reputation of being full of shit. one wrong move and they flip you the finger. I really feel that photoperiods leave more room for error, and even if you mess them up you have a greater chance of fixing your problem and still ending up with some bud. I would also chime in on the whole growing medium thing, seeing as it's autos and you don't wana repot, don't think popping in one medium and then repotting to another is an option. you gona have to get one and stick to it. let us know what you using right now and maybe some pictures? I would recommend a lower/lesser nutrient soil, because you can always add nutrients and topdress with worm castings and all that, but because you going to pop a seed you putting yourself at risk when using hot soil. seedlings don't need much food, they get enough food from clean tap water untill they start showing first set of true leaves. just a note, it's harder to remove nutrients from hot soil than it is to add nutrients and in a organic situation the golden key is "less is more" hope you get something going sooooon ✌

Hey there, assuming you have success with germination and it's the seedlings you finding a trouble with than it could be a number of things so to rule them out I would start by asking you what type of medium are you using?

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Posting this new potumentary here. Been speaking loads about landrace with Simon and I have a feeling something interesting is going to happen in the new year. Pull up a chair, light up a spliff and enjoy.

Not too much longer to wait now I think. One interesting point I forgot to mention, was that most plants have an ice cream smell to them. That is unexpected, but I'm certainly not complaining. Only plant I currently have that has that trait in flower is my Blue Cheese, and the taste on that is mind blowing!

Hi folks. A friend came over and he has a schweet phone... Shit that thing can take nice photos.. so I thought I'd share a couple...