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All good in the tent, flowers coming along nicely. Feeding at 1l 2ec twice a week or so. Weekly foliar with diluted neem. Humidity is theoretically at 50, but our late rain is spiking that. Lots of airflow.

@jabulanithehutt try hitting the Natures Farmacy in Stellenbosch. definitely worth the drive out. make sure you got a good apatite and a good weed tolerance, the restaurant serves goooood food and the atmosphere is very cozy. they also have a fully lisenced bar don't know if they're all the same, but I enjoy the one in Stellenbosch a lot. there's a few of them. one in Vredekloof, one in Paarl, one in Hermanus. don't know of more. The one in Paarl didn't have a liqour lisence when I was there last so I only had a couple THC beers, which was also very nice you have to be a member to consume any cannabis on sight, here is the link https://oneculture.co.za/about-us/

I agree, but OP is messing with HID and not LED, so the point I wanted to get across is that there are always better options to go with if you're only shooting for "being able to veg", why not spend less money and make it optimal? Move over to LED and care less about light stress. What I meant with my statement of putting a clone - young sensitive plant that stresses very easily - under 5000K LED at 40cm and comparing it to 3500K CFL at 20cm, like I am refering to here ..... ... is that the CFL will be a problem, because its not always about Watt/Kelvin/Lumins it's also about how you hang the thing to make the most out of the micromols/second that the light produces, and usually a CFL is known to not be strong enough to grow a plant, but it can easily stress your plants also if you use it wrong or the wrong kinda one. might be optimal at another time in the plants life, but saying it's OK to go with only one spectrum for the plants whole life is fine, but then you are gona have moments when the plant goes through a little bit of stress. I think about it like in nature, the sun doesn't stay the same all season through. if OP insists on keeping the HIDs I would say it's in his best interest to get some MH bulbs for veg, wont hurt, will it? LED is much more forgiving for the most part anyway, another win for the LEDs but it can also be used incorrectly!

I need to disagree with you here. If they are decent diodes, such as the Samsung LM301B/H then 3000K for vegging a plant is not a problem at all. I have done it many times before, used both 3000K and 3500K with excellent results. The amount of blue light a cannabis plant requires is not all that much and 3000K full spectrum still gives enough blue. You can certainly flower with 3000K and 3500K. As soon as one starts to go 4000K upwards then the light starts to become a bit too specific IMO and leaning more towards a light I'd only want to use for veg. 3000 to 3500K I feel is the perfect combination for veg & flower, also keeping in mind plants are in veg for a fraction of the time they are in flower for (generally speaking, depends on how one runs their grow though). The kelvin of HID lights might work as you described, although for decent LED diodes 3000K for veg is fine.

I want to personally tour private club shops all over the cape on weekends. I know only of these two so far: Sensiva Cafe Woodstock Cannibisters Seapoint Any suggestions where I can sign up membership etc and find a regular dispensary will be greatly appreciated.

Just found out about a store in Strand by the fisherman shop, gonna go scout soon.

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Hey, sorry for the late response. I'm extremely happy with how it looks. The swivel is great, so nice to be able to change the viewing angle Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

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I maintain my stance, 31°C will not stress them unless they under watered. what's clear cut though is that HPS is not meant to veg clones. and like you gathered by now, light does matter and more so "what kind of light" and "what distance" test it out yourself. get a clone put it under 5000K 50w LED at 40cm see how she does, then put a clone under a 3000K 50w CFL at 20cm, problem will look similar to what you have here. wrong kind of light. might be a bit confusing, but a light can be too intense and not strong enough to grow a plant at the same time. could also be watering problem as you running on sprinkler system? easy to have either over or under water problems with young clones especially in big pots too. do you lift the pots before watering to make sure they need warer? also they don't wilt before watering, that would be considered waiting a bit too long. could also just be cz your in Orgasoilux, I've toasted a plant in Orgasoilux with clean water, so I know they make their soil hot. no questions. this shouldn't be a problem though and will self rectify by just keep watering with clean water and no nutes. clones in fresh soil, even not so hot soil still only needs water for a while. organic growers have long been throwing around the term "it's organic it can't harm your plants" and nothing has ever been further from the truth. in some cases organics can fuck your plant worse than synthetics and it's very very easy to over do it wirh organics, because of the kak people been saying about moering everything, anything and their aunties in the soil if it's organic. infact, when it comes to organic, less is more. golden rule brother. I am gona repeat that for those in the back that can't hear, WITH ORGANICS LESS IS MORE! it's a fine art, it's not all about light, but if you have the watering conditions in check and you have the nutrients in check it's back to square one, the kind of light.

I would say, advertise all your HIDs for sale asap, the more you use them the harder they'll sell. same time get a order ready for some LEDs, like prom mentioned he got some qbs off alibaba for good price, you could get something muuuuuuuuch better suited for your space, you could get a very very very cheap deal on LED components off digikey then source some local aluminium extrusions and build your own LED like a lot of us, we'll help you step by step through it all, then as soon as you have someone interested in the HIDs place the order for the LEDs, tell the HID guy they just need to wait till you got your LEDs to replace them, the day you get your LEDs you let the HID guy know his stuff is ready for collection. it's very simple really then you don't have to worry about aircons and paying through your ass when the electricity bill comes around. a reduction in monthly running cost is where it's at man, you don't wana harvest couple kilos, but then you pay the same price to Eskont that you would've paid to some street character for a bulk sale. also don't have to replace bulbs or ballasts and there's just generally much less stress with LED. so it's a no brainer for sure less heat, less maintenance and PT, less money spent on maintenance, one thing it has more of though, is light. which again is another one for the win. so like a win win win situation.

Hey guys, could you imagine this conversation around a fire? Here's the LD. We all had to start somewhere. It's going to be a wild ride, but stay positive, deal with things as they arise, you grow space is going to change as you go along, but every time is going to get better, until it reaches a point that works. An HPS might not be efficient but some people drive big v8s. You will find in time that you might add more HPS, maybe LED, maybe a combination of both. You might get away with vegging all those plants and add more lights, you might have to move some outside or give them away ( I'll take em ) when it's time to flower, there's plenty options if you stay committed. With 25 plants you've just placed a bigger bet but greater risk, greater reward. You might not be winning any cannabis cups on your first grow but you will definitely be one step closer. Time for some coffee and cheesecake. Peace ✌

my clone 2.4x2.4 sucks 4k per month... before the price hike. HID lamps generate double the heat... you need double the cooling power. He can be happy it only draws 10k a month... we talk 4 x 1.2x1.2, isnt small he will easy run 5500 watts on light times with ac and 400 watt during dark time... if it gets cold in winter, little heater... lets say 400watt on top. And i use very energy efficient inliners... 10k bro, with the april price hike, that is what i expect... will be more.. as i added a tent

also... to plant autos in their final pot is a good idea. Do the same with a photo, isnt. Potting up gives you a better root system and speeds up their grow rate. Till you get the hang how much water the strain consumes, lift the pot. Heavy, no water, feather light, water till run off and let dry up again. If you keep the medium to wet they slow down and if you over water for to long, they will show you the finger. The wet dry cycle is very important. I saw no fertilizers, is the organolux or how ever soil ^^ all in one?? You need NPK, silica and amino acids. I do not like all in one soils. Just to mention that too Put your pots close together and hang the light according to instructions you got with the grow lights. Those 4x600 should light a 2.4x2.4 area, use what your lights can flower or you end with to many plants to finish. After this grow you will understand all way better, isn't rocket science what we do... but starting to drive a car in the formular 1.... will leave you frustrated. Scale down to what your lights can handle is my suggestion, you should end with a result you enjoy... just... add!! fans. I run 2 x 150mm inliners to suck filtered air in and 2, same models, to suck out. That is your air exchange. 6 times tent volume per minute is a good amount. And then you need mixers to blow over the plants... as much as you can without damaging the plants. Growing indoor isnt difficult, but also not that easy

Mhhh i can tell you once all tents run at the new spot unit price goes up the more you buy. The last week of the month is the most frustrating i took the 20.5% Eskom price hike in those 10k... was on 8.3k before, since the 2 ACs are powered down, life is better, Jan and Feb were nasty hot this year.