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Nah, not nearly the same problems brother lets quickly leave the WEF and WHO out of this, as you know the W stands for "world". we can discuss this also, but I feel it's got very little to do with the problem here in SA, plus I'd much rather deal with those problems sitting on another continent than be stuck here dealing with trying to pay attention to 100's of different problems, once you pay attention to one problem the others flairs up. We gotta learn to pay attention to the problem at hand, no point in even thinking about moving to the moon, though it may be a solution that's obviously not the only option either and no one should allow themself to think that way. First you tackle and try change what you can, the problem right infront of you. Taking it step by step, no use in trying to reach to either side of the extreme end of the spectrum, let's just talk like normal people. I am not trying to "save the world with one sentence", I am just adressing problems, calling them like I see them. At this point what seems even more ridiculous is the people being blissfully unaware of a thing called "the middle ground". As soon as someone wants to point out a problem then people wana call them negative and jump on the "don't come with problems, come with solutions" high horse.... well, duh, obviously you can't reach a solution if you haven't succesfully identified the problem first. The only reason to see someone pointing out a problem as negative is because you're being negative yourself. Pointing out problems is half of the solution, but only the positive people will be aware of that. so let's keep moving forward. Life isn't finite, change is the only constant. We CAN change this, but definitly not with the shoulder shrug and the "well we've gone too far already" attitude. that's also part of the problem. We're being forced to accept a culture that base its pride in corruption and masking it with "richness" of not moving forward as a collective community and play the victim card at every opportunity. The whole world has tried to help Africa, not only South Africa, the whole Africa. Send food, send money, send education, send farming infrastucture and resources and its the same shit everytime - it's run straight into the ground, shit gets wrecked and not looked after, farming resources is seen as a food rather than a source to farm to make more food, free schools are being broken and burnt down and taken advantage of... right now we begging for electricity, while we got Koeberg just sitting pretty on the coast there.... so much talk about Eskom I bet lots of us even forgot the name "Koeberg".... Don't give me "that's the best they could do under circumstances" bullshit. Eskom was a powerhouse of a entity in its early years, when it was run right and with competent leaders who atleast knew the answer to 1+1. Now it's a steaming pile of and no one is to blame?????? hahahahah yeah right, that's like when I was 6 and broke someone elses toy, then say it was like that when I found it, and when someone calls me out on my bullshit I wana throw a fit. Let's take a closer look - Even on a more primitive level the tribes in the amazon live more communual and better lives than the central african tribes. there's a misnomer when it comes to cultural richness. those tribal amazonian kids may seem inferior to you, but they're warriors, know a lot more about survival than we do as grown ass adults with guns and the internet... Where as unclothed African children just die of starvation cause "there's no food", and in African logic the only way to combat that problem is to make more babies and do even less farming and then the victim card comes up. Like there's never been an attempt to help them and the whole world owes them something. Need I remind you of all the ethic groups that has faced oppression in the past? Literally every ethnic group has faced oppression, Africans are the only ones that seem to not be able to rise to the occasion. Don't get me wrong, I know there are still diseases and other problems that these indigenous "tribes" haven't dealt with, but you also know those kids don't get a cold or flu as easily as we do, and that translates much importance to those who know. Their immune systems are stronger than ours, they got a much more diverse and natural diet than us. Their tiny muscles are capable of much more than the modern gym rats. With all that said I am sure a bunch of you still gona think this way, so let me be clear and say obviously I don't mean we need to go back to the year 1 and start eating rats and bathe once a year without soap. let's get back to what I said before -middle ground- there are ways to take steps backward and it still being in the right direction, we don't need to hike to the fucking moon to resolve earths problems, who the hell actually thinks that way? We just backpedal a bit, we take concepts from both sides of the spectrum and incorporate them, find balance. At the moment with the "you owe us" mentality of our leaders and the "everything is fine" mentality of our citizens are the two major problems to tackle. First if ALL SA citizens wake up to what's wrong the leaders wont be able to lead anymore. It's people like my mom still thinking ramapoeskop has her or my wellbeing of in his interests, just because he said "my fellow south africans" and she chooses to be a part of that. She knows he lies about like 90% of what he is saying, but when he says how he is there to help us then she believes him. That's the problem. Not the WHO or the WEF, though that's also a problem, just on a grander scale. It's a different topic though, I do chat with people about it and we can't look at it through the SA lens. If we in SA can change this "cultural pride" back to "competency" we already making strides, if we can stop saying "this is fine" we already making strides. if we can stop being positive about negative shit we making strides. if we can just adress the problem head on we half way there.

Eish gents...... Its easy to point fingers and all that, but where would you go/emigrate that doesn't have same or equivalent issues. Between the WEF and WHO etc.... even if you dodge now...they come searching. Geographical isolation is good initially, but can you maintain that isolation...

Eskom gave a fair warning, they are collapsing and the world seem to have picked up on SA too... just came out and hits the nail on its head We know is worse actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHDUIt6BtRo

If you want change.. you have to become that change. The moment SA gets a leader with a decent brain, things will flow again. Take a cardboard write on how you feel and connect it to a wooden stick or what ever you find. Then stand with that in the road and hold your sign up. If there are 100k standing in the road demanding the removal of the ANC and investigation into their financial records of the last 30 years. Just demand the stolen money back and see... how fast things can change. I also strongly recommend not putting presidents in place not able to pronounce numbers, it reflects a bit the capacity of their brain. If you guys sit home and simply accept... you become responsible the same way. Wait till there is a single power cut in Europe.. got announced, never happened.. but if... people would flock to the streets and voice their opinion. Your government simply recognized that the sheeple in SA are not exercising their duty of a citizen. Perfect conditions for corruption... people just shake their heads and do nothing... who wouldn't have a grab in the money pot???? Comes in SA with a 'Ignore Jail and go back to start directly' monopoly card Sitting home will not change a thing... seat to cozy? When the 99% out there have enough, your seat will burn...

R2000 for a brand new 120W QB is considered the standard, plus a Meanwell driver, potentiometer and ratchets included. You might want to adjust your price slightly.

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Hey bud, hope you are well. You can just ignore all this if you wana, but I gotta say R5500 for 150watt is reeeeeeaally steep, no matter how you look at it, just to give you a few points. •the qb style is outdated, anyone spending more than around 3k on a light gona lean more away from old qb style build and rather go for a bar style. design / layout of the build can make a huge impact on growing environment. •for around 3k you can get a locally built LED qb samsung LM301h/b diodes and a Meanwell driver - currently top of the line diodes and drivers for growing plants, compiled by a team of horticultural engineers, much better diodes than osram got out. (source: https://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/ ) •local builds sell better cause if anything breaks you can easily have it fixed in way shorter time than having to deal with imported products. and quality really is key here. if somethings imported I expect it to be cheaper or at least quality has to make up for spending so much more. in this case there are higher quality local options for cheaper. that "imported" tag shouldn't make it more expensive as it doesn't add anything to the light itself. it actually turns people away from buying it. (few options: https://www.greenhouston.co.za/products/quantum-board-led-125w ) if we looking at spending upwards to 5-6k on a qb we looking at more around 250watt. and then it's gotta have samsung diodes + it's locally made. eg. even within the line of samsung diodes there's a price differences in the LM301H and the LM261C and all the rest, and that's based on their output/efficiency. some are just better than others, I can sit here and explain to you till I am blue in the face, but I also did drop the LEDgardener source for you to have a looksee, all the info is there. people used to lean towards importing cause SA is stuck in 1950 when it comes to accessibility to top of the line products, but luckily the cannabis community don't wait on no one, we push till we make it and these days people are stocking big names locally, Migrow, Nanolux, Fluence.... those kinda brands, besides that there are plenty of local LED manufacturers that make use of the top of the line products, we even have one here on the forum, Mr.E. builds some of the craziest LED bar lights you can find locally, I come across a few others, I know LEONLED used to be popular, not sure if he is producing anymore....but yeah man, that R5500 for just 150w is like..... it's just way out. juuuuust a few pointers, all love and respect brother

when is a good time to say "I told you so" quite a bunch on here still gona sing the same old song been ready for that civil war for a while now though if it doesn't happen soon SA is loosing a soldier. would much rather high tail out this fucking hellhole, never been a patriot kind. plus they say the grass is greener where you water it, so just remember to keep watering wherever you move to and you be good. can really play with metaphors

And some Pictures of the JetFuel.. they really enjoy the no pots growing and I am getting better with my FIM cuts Planted my last tray of Sour Diesel in the flower tent.. that should be it, booking my ticket in the next 2 months. One of the Hella Jelly's i took a clone from is more or less PM immune. I didn't used 'resistant' as the difference is like day and night. Picture a tent with the worse PM you ever saw and in the middle of the mess a 1.5 meter tall plant with NOTHING on it ^^ I will take clones of the plant and drop it into the CT community. More or less my far well present.