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Thanks NP. Yor i really can't give you specifics....i think before preflower. I dump the runoff on lawn and ground plants, better than flushing down the toilet i guess i don't know lol

I was actually trying to stunt them to keep them small

Woah hahah that is high, how big where the plants when you started the 450ppm twice a day? Did you go for such a stretch? Just a note, you know bout the reason why people don't use synthetic nutrients in living soil - cause it kills the microbes - so just keep that in mind when you pouring the runoff in your garden. it will destroy the micro biome of any living soil, especially in a pot where soil is little. A good documentary for any kinda grower to watch - it's on Netflix too, roll a fatty, sit back and treat yourself, it's a goood one

lol why do you say that? the discrepancy with organics being slower is because people have lost touch with organics and struggle to get it right. when you talk to a organic guru you'll see it moves extremely fast, just as fast as hydro and some cases faster. 99.99% of newer growers who do "organics" just use normal soil and biobizz then call it organic, but their plants are stunted literally from day one all the way through. when a plant is moving slow but looks 100% healthy - it's stunted - and that's why people think organics is slower. I've outgrown synthetic/hydo growers a numbers of times with my own living soil. Takes a couple years to get there, but once you there you drastically scale down visiting the grow stores and nurseries all together. but we can't compare or view synthetics and organics in the same light at all, because worm poo and piss is sustainable, I source it right in in my back yard, no need to break shit down to make my nutes, no need for manufacturing factories and all the pollution that goes along with bringing a bottle of nutes to the shelf, no need for plastics all that shit and then in the end the use of synthetics is also harmfull in so many ways long before you consume it. so it's just two completely different things in the end.

I got u thanks. And they would definitely been much smaller with organics

So.. the Spring Photo harvest is done, just 3 strains still outside getting sun.. Deluxe Sugarcane, White Widow and my 2 Gelato Phenos, few days out. ^^ So yes, easy possible to run 2 photo harvests a year with a little preparation in July, enough sun down here Jarred to even out the moisture before I dress. Ginger Tea and Slurricane

High frequency fertigation. At 450ppm I feed once a day when I'm working, and feed twice a day on my off days. Runoff goes to garden plants. https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/principles-fertigation-feed-water-cannabis-coco/

that's crazy!!

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Stretching completely stopped just in time. Had to remove my drain buckets