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Having a variety makes it hard to judge one plant against another

We did have prizes for these categories in the indoor growoff. We didn't for the outdoor as very few people grow in hydro outdoors

After thinking about it for a bit I don't think there's a need to permit entrants based on growing experience. I think your suggestion about minimum post count will be the main qualifying criteria. Everybody can have a chance but their participation and ability to follow the rules needs to somehow be confirmed. Perhaps a form of application, a separate web page where the member can apply. On the page everything is laid out, how the comp works, the rules and all. At the bottom the person checks a box that says "I have read the rules and information and am willing to comply to participate" or something to that effect, and then they can apply. One thing we will have to do is be strict. Checking up on people's diaries all the time to make sure they update just isn't possible. Hence me giving up on that for the current outdoor growoff. If the participant fails to update their diary within the specified time frame they will be disqualified without warning. If they have a valid excuse the participant will also need to reach out to me or the mods if they aren't able to update. Perhaps we can setup a telegram group for all participants to make those kinda communications easier.

Gthydro are operating during the lockdown. They've just been deemed an essential service https://gthydro.co.za/products/383-perlite-coarse.html

As a breeder. Would you prefer to see the a select few battle it out with your genetics? Say 15 to 20 growers, participation guaranteed.

How does a minimum of 3 grows sound? I'm specifically referring to indoor grows. Outdoor, maybe 2

Don't worry I fully agree on that. Prizes involving gear etc. is definitely the end goal. Was just a thought in case we don't pick up any prize sponsors

Usually 20w is a suggested minimum but even that is very weak. For the first 2 weeks, 2 of those bulbs will see you through but be sure to keep the bulbs very close to the seedling, about 10cm above it. All this being said, you are sacrificing time and with an auto you don't have much time to sacrifice. What's your budget? Gthydro have just been deemed an essential service (quite funny that) and are now doing online orders and deliveries during the shutdown. If you want to start growing indoors you're going to need to invest in some decent lighting. With that auto, the sooner the better

Thanks for the input guys. After reading your inputs here are my thoughts on the best way forward: Instead of aiming too high with the competition I think we should start it small and build participation by means of qualification. The competition will be geared more for members of 420SA The competition will be more exclusive with specific qualification criteria to be met if you want to participate. Qualification criteria to be discussed. The goal is for the growoff to be an exhibition of the country's finest growing talent pitted against each other. Having a pool of accomplished growers also benefits the breeders who sponsor their genetics. I.e. they get a much truer indication of the performance of their genetics. A win for all parties involved. With a narrowed down participation pool, it may not be viable to offer prizes in the beginning but we can see how that pans out. Qualification criteria: I don't think post count alone is good enough to qualify. The member needs to be a proven grower with grows to show. They need a minimum post count of 50 They need to have a minimum of 5 completed grows under the belt. They can either direct us to grows on the forum or provide images of 5 of their grows. Finally there will need to be some sort of approval committee setup to make the final approval. This committee can be elected by forum members Perhaps an entry fee may need to be charged but we will discuss that a bit later. On the other hand, and I'm not sure on the legalities, but what if all growers paid in an amount at the beginning and the sum of these fees gets split amongst the 1st, 2nd and 3rd winners? Is that considered gambling? probably...

High guys Last year's Indoor growoff, in my opinion, went relatively well. It was ultimately plagued by a number of issues that prevented it from being a success though. With what we have learn't from last year's indoor growoff I'd like to get your guys input on how we can iron out the issues and get it to run more smoothly. I would really like to keep the growoffs going annually but the amount of effort that was put in wasn't matched by participation and co-operation. It takes a lot to organise a comp of this kind, if the amount of effort that is put in isn't matched by participation then it just isn't worth the effort. Here are my thoughts on what didn't go well last year: People mainly struggled to stay in line with the rules and procedure. With big sponsors on board we had to lay out a procedure and rules, some disagreed with it but I felt it was necessary nor difficult to follow. To those that participated, were the rules too difficult to follow? How can they be improved? There were 2 sponsors who did not honour their prizes. Green Leaf Organics went, and still is, AWOL. Then Sustainable Village SA did not honour their prize. The distribution of seeds actually didn't go too badly, I feel we executed it pretty well. On the other hand many of those who received the seeds didn't actually participate. It may be best if we allow a diversity of genetics but this immediately taints the legitimacy of the competition to some extent. I'm of the opinion that if we don't have the same cultivar, the growoff isn't worth it. I know that even with the same cultivar the variety of phenos can be diverse, especially with a cultivar that is not fully stabilized but it just keeps things fair. There are more points and I will add them in due course. The point is to get this discussion going in the mean time. Would love to hear input from you guys

SNAPSHOT OF THE MONTH 4/20 Sponsored by www.cannabist.co.za www.greensmokeroomseeds.com/ www.thehighco.co.za What's being given away this month? 1st Prize Secret Jardin Dark Propogator 60 Tent General Hydroponics 500ml Tri Pack Sponsored by Cannabist 2nd Prize 5 Pack Juggling Cannon Balls Feminized Seeds Green Smoke Room Lanyard Green Smoke Room Tray Green Smoke Room Rizzla Sponsored by Green Smoke Room Seeds 3rd Prize A TheHighCo R500-00 voucher Sponsored by TheHighCo HOW TO ENTER? Simply reply to this thread with your entries. Attach the images to your reply or embed the images from a 3rd party website Snapshot of The Month Rules: Original images only please. If your entries are found to have been pulled from the internet your entry will be void. Members can enter a maximum of 5 images each. Images entered this month may not be entered in future competitions. Members can submit photos and/or graphics designs of their own Entries will be narrowed down to 10 nominees which will be placed in a poll. The poll will not be the official decider of the winners though. Members can only come first in an SOTM once every 12 months or 2nd or 3rd twice every 12 months. 420SA and its moderators will decide the winners Entries are judged on: Overall originality - What sets the image apart from others. Wow factor - does the image get attention. Quality and clarity - Is the detail in the image decent. Is the photograph clear, well focused and not blurry. Effort - was there a good amount of thought and effort that went into the image Entries close 30/04/20 Good Luck! -------------------------------------------- Here are those 10 nominees: @Club_high @Kwanda #1 @Kwanda #2 @oldsandals @trichomechaser @Dimitri_JK @Craig @Kyle Pienaar @KaktusBoer #1 @KaktusBoer #2

Here are the 10 nominees in order of submission Due to the current lockdown, prizes can only be sent out post lockdown. We'll therefore run this poll till the 15th of April and announce the winners on that same day. @@_deanzo_ #1 @@_deanzo_ #2 @Prom #1 @Prom #2 @Smeegol @Garushk @Wolfsbane @Bospatrollie2 @SunShine Coast Farms #1 @SunShine Coast Farms #2

When I started growing I started with wet trim and now I always dry trim. I've found it to be much better. Retains terpene profiles far better but yea it does depend on your climate. If you have a high humidity situation it may be better to wet trim. If you check out all the upcoming large scale grow facilities in the US, they all practice dry trim.

ENTRIES CLOSED Hi all! Hope you're staying sane during this lockdown. Fortunately we have mary jane to keep us lifted. The nominees will be announced this evening or tomorrow morning

Entries close Midnight Tuesday

Quick update - pics taken 21 March - Week 4 Day 2 The Blue Dream stretched a bit more than I would've liked. With a 400w bulb Ideally I'd want a flat low canopy but that's gone out the window now. Otherwise everything still on track

@Totemic is bringing out fem seeds now. Not available on the 420SA store but available on Cannabist. Here's the link https://www.cannabist.co.za/breeder/totemic-genetics/ Also maybe contact him directly on here

Damn you Capies!

Good idea @Dank will give it some thought.

Personally I think the move to shutdown was a good one and perhaps the only option right now. Especially for a country like ours. We have a huge portion of the population that relies on public transport and that public transport involves people essentially sitting on top of each other. Then as you say Prom, so many have compromised immune systems in this country. Our health system can't cope as it is so we would be desperately fucked if this virus took hold like it has in Italy. Granted Italy has a high number of elderly citizens but our HIV and TB issue could be a far more detrimental factor than just old age. I have my reservations about how this pandemic may have come about. The possibility of a natural cause or malicious intent bounces back and forth in my mind. Some things to read up on and make you wonder a little - http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ - this event took place in October 2019, a month before the apparent origin of the virus in November 2019. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/chinese-official-says-us-army-maybe-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-2020-3?r=US&IR=T - The US Military was in Wuhan in October 2019 for the "Military World Games" Coincidence? Who knows...

I'm really interested to see what you can achieve with this method. I'm a skeptic, among many, when it comes to growing bud in "organic" hydro systems. PH can go all over the place and nailing the right amount of nutrients at the right time is much harder to do than with hydro nutes(salts). Plus you end up with issues like you had in this thread. Hydro has it down to a science where as trying it organically is more of a guessing game. When you're growing soilless you don't wanna be guessing too much. Of course, there is aquaponics(with fish), but that is better suited to vegging plants and herbs. Nothing really flower related I'm not saying its impossible though! You've chosen a challenge. Good luck, we're watching closely. How are you aerating the water? With an air stone?

Alright, so you haven't been giving the plant any nutrients? Just AACT and explogrow? If not, do you plan on feeding and with what?

Are you feeding hydro nutes to your plant in your DWC setup?