Totemic

So I actually got a response to my mail from Sunwest. __________________ Hello, We work with many breeders all over the world with new crosses, if we have anything close to your product it was completely accidental. We are willing to look into this if you would provide any legal documents pertaining to your strains and the legitimacy of your claim that we are being purposefully dishonest. Thank you, ______________ Aweful response in my opinion, as there is no way the cross, its description are accidental or coincidence. Their legal posture is a quandry, since providing proof in this matter has to take it to the labs for analysis... I have been working on a solution to this problem though, and soon Totemic seeds will be available from an authorized distributor state side, so that those peeps can get the benefit from getting the real deal from the real breeder, at a fraction of the price these sunwest genetics okes are trying to charge.

6 weeks from seed today. These girls are just starting to explode. You can see a clear size difference between the tall and short phenos. I'll give then another week for the roots to settle, then I'll flip.

Doesn't look locked out. Leaves look a clear green.

Adding silica to soil/organics has led me to many a pH mess and lockout

Just switch to a Flowering cycle for 4 days once the preflowers are visible, then back to veg.

Yeah gave them a feed too soon at 3 weeks, but they've come through. I've also been running the light closer and a bit more intense than normal to compact the nodes, since I'm not planning on topping them. Normal light height these plants would have been twice the height at 11 nodes.

Today was a long plant day for me. Finally sure on sex, and one of the girls is actually a he... Transplanted to 15l. Back on a veg cycle for 2 to 3 weeks for the roots to just fill the pots a bit. I'll then be cloning them all, and flipping then. I've also split the girls into the different pheno groups that are emerging. Group 2 and 3 are the groups I'm mainly interested in. The males are all really interesting, but I've chosen one that has the most uniform node development, representing in group 2 and 3. I'm taking clones of the other males too and will keep them around a while. The chosen male Group 2 and 3 females The 4 males that are not making the cut. They are off to new homes.

Awesome grow man. Been a treat watching them. You can be sure to see more of her in the future. I may have a release ready early next year.

I haven't grown either of those, but do start a log when you pop those beans, so we can all follow along, and give the breeders the exposure

Feel free to mail them... I just have, although my enquiry was a bit more direct to the issue. Let's see what happens.

Makes it even more unbelievable that my cross is actually listed there. I consider myself approachable and would gladly ship my seeds to anywhere in there world if the world wants them. Why as Crop King risk your reputation by listing a cross that is just barely available from a single breeder. It's not a common cross, and is the only chocolate Gelato listed on seed finder. Sure there will definitely be chocolate Gelatos stemming off the cookies lines coming from the US, but none with Chocolope NL in the lineage

Man they know stuff about my cross I don't even know yet

Ja, but I just hate the drama... And insta just overflows with it... My long term goals for my lines are not just to get into home grows... From next spring totemic is filling a few fields, and a few greenhouses. The brand is here to serve the local market, and an international (probably dropshipping) pop-up seedbank isn't going to damage that

Yeah that's what's great about the advancements of the industry. Phylos.bio is so appealing to me, and would love it if a South African company would dive into this at an affordable price. However there are other alternatives available that cover the terpenes and cannabinoids quite well like Qure, and a few other labs. Still pricey though...

That's my point... Who knows what they selling... They sure didn't get the seeds from me. Chocolope NL was released for the first Growoff at F4. Yeah I gave out quite a few to everybody, but it was never commercially available except a few fems, and will only be available for the first time commercially on the F5 generation I'm working on. Chocolate Gelato... Man she's brand brand new..I never released F1s only released her Nov last year on F2. So ja... Who knows what they selling

Yeah just a few pre release available. The last of any feminized work for the next year or so... I have many older lines that need reviving and my focus is on my Tortoni and my Chocolope NL line for the rest of the year

Look, anyone can take the same genetic lineage and recreate my strains... But it won't be my selections and choices I made through the years... I'm also fully aware that once I've released something it isn't just mine anymore... I wish them well... If you building a business on lies it ain't going to last

It was just a matter of time before it started happening, although I really thought it would be someone local first. Browsing around Google this morning having a look at how my pages and products are propagating, I noticed my Chocolate Gelato listed at the following seedbank https://www.sunwestgenetics.com/chocolate-gelato-feminized/ It's odd since my seeds are not available internationally, and I never released my chocolate Gelato line until November last year on F2s, and fems in January, and only a really small amount was/is available. I'll give it to the site though... They sure do know how to spin bullshit on a strain. I'll copy the first piece and use it though, as I'm really bad with doing proper strain writeups. Many have questioned why I have gone the route I have with my packaging...This is the reason. If you are looking for any of my seeds, they are only available through the totemic website, and the listed distributors on the site.

So the first 5 males have been removed, and the 4 unknowns are girls, so 14 girls.

If they are under a 240 QB from Light it up, then you should have your lights dimmed to 160-180, at a height of 70-80cm for this early veg stage

That's why I'm documenting my grows as best I can. You can be sure I'll be posting up logs for each generation I work on. Taking a new cross and turning it into a strain.

The difference visually when comparing an F3 population to the next f4 population is astounding. F4 you hit a stable output for whatever you were selecting. F4 is a sweet spot. F2 and F3 are still unstable. From F5 you start trading vigor for stability.

Some plants just don't really push the primordial flowers, but I've found that expressing the sex has little to do with time passed, and more to do with how far the plant development is. Most F1 generations are really homozygous, especially when the parents are genetically far apart. It creates a true F1 hybrid. Using similar or closely related parent plants don't necessarily create a new hybrid expression, but just express similar to that line(like all the lines with GSC lines... They are all the same.... The F2 recombination event is an interesting one, and many previously recessive traits become dominant, previously dominant traits either recess or lock in. The F2 generation is never a stable generation, and this is especially true due to the polyhybrid that this line is. There are many directions one can take a line. I'm not looking for different traits, but looking to isolate the current F1 traits and lock them in to a stable F4. Healthy cannabis plants are actually quite resilient against pest and disease as they are aromatic plants with volatile terpenes and cannabinoids. It becomes an issue with plants in isolation to other plants. Pests don't have a choice so they go for the cannabis. In an ecosystem the pests would way rather eat something else. As for environmental diseases like PM etc, epigenetics play a role and generation after generation rewrites their DNA based on the environment they experience as an evolutionary step.

That one bottom right pheno I actually an outlier... Different leaf shape, smell, structure is all off so it's going to be interesting. So far, it's actually the back 4 males and back 4 females that are expressing the phenotype I'm interested in.

Yeah preflowers are easily distinguishable as male or female at 31 days from seed. This is a seed run to get me to the F2s, where the real pheno hunting begins. This is a stable F1 generation, but the F2 generation may or may not present with unfavorable traits. Selecting for pest resistance is actually quite low on my selection list. My selection is intuitive, involves look, feel, smell, growth patterns. This male selection on this run will be my 6th consecutive selection on the chocolope NL lineage. I've learnt what my males with that lineage generally pass on to females. Males add a lot more than people generally think.