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Just remember that it is not legal to sell any of what you have grown... you may gift friends up to 100g at a time. but no selling. if you must sell... do so in secret so that you dont get caught friendly neighborhood spidey

correct... in any meduim, you should not flush with clean water unless there is a huge problem. in soil you can use clean water because the soil has organic material in it that can break down and feed the plant again. in coco, you will just wash everything out and leave the plant hungry AF... you dont have to flush with a lower ec than your standard feed.... if your standard feed is 1.0 ec... then you should flush with 1.0EC too

seems you still missing the point i was trying to make... so because the coco is not a fluid meduim... and because water flows toward the earth, when you pour a feed on... it sinks and gets soaked up by the coco... and then the plant drinks in the feed from the suspended feed held by the coco... when the plant drinks the water... the top of the coco becomes dryer while the bottom of the pot is likely still damp or even wet. so now you add the next feed. back to the point about the coco not being fluid... if you pour the feed at the top... it does not reach the bottom of the pot until it sinks in... so the new nutes do not mix with the old nutes very well... so when you pour the feed onto the coco... it like... pushes some of the old nute solution out of the bottom of the pot. leaving your meduim with mostly only newer nute solution. what burns the roots is when the coco is over full with water...and the only way that happens is if your pot sits in the run off...roots then suffocate and die. your EC needs to be very high to burn your roots... i have seen EC's of over 4.0 and the plants were okay...ish... the uneaten dissolved salts crystalize again when the meduim dries out, and gets washed out when you feed to runoff. when i test my runnoff, the runnoff is typically always higher than the input feed... unless the meduim is starving and then the runnoff may be lower... but you would know very soon if your plants are hungry... so it is less common. and perhaps you misunderstand how coco and the nutes work together. a quick one you should know is about the cation sites in coco? they get filled up with calcuim and potassuim mostly and leave little space for any other nutrients to get absorbed. Coco is considered an inert meduim that has no nute value to a plant. the synthetic nutes kinda like... float in the meduim... they are held in suspension by the saturated coco. so when a new feed gets fed... it just pushes the old stuff out.... kinda like making a triple layer jelly? you put the first colour in and let it set (1st feed) then the second colour you make it and you need to slowly pour it over the back of a teaspoon so that the colours dont mix... same in coco... the spoon is the coco which spreads the new colour evenly over the old colour and that would force the old colour out the pots...- if that analogy makes any sense Shortly... no.. you would have given a 5th of the feed in this case. and if the pot is a 20l pot...1l is greatly underfeeding it... the pot will take 4.5l of water before it starts running out the pot. so you will need 4.5l of correctly mixed feed to saturate the whole meduim. and honestly... if you are using liquid synthetic nutes... you put a few ml into your feed... the % of nutes in the runoff is so negligible ... hardly even a few rands... i wouldnt call it waste either as it manages an important part of a synthetic grow... the runoff is important if you dont have the correct tools to measure your substrates condition. keep the questions coming man!

yo!! once you have lifted your pot off the ground... i would continue to feed as you are... 5l should be fine for a 20l pot... you should get some run off there which is good now that the plant is lifted. i would even consider saying try 6l of feed to get a bit more run off each time... i know 4.5l in my 20 pots leads to a dribble of runoff . if you feed this way, you wont need to alternate with clean water. and by all means report back man! this same thread is the right place!

no bad rep for you at all man! but with coco and synthetic nutes - it would then be exactly opposite to what you said. coco is so light and noncompact, that even fully saturated to the point of runoff it has a substantial amount of oxygen in it. the reason that you are supposed to water till run off in coco, is to eliminate the salt build up. From your previous feed, you put in say 500ppm, but not till run off. now you know your meduim has 500ppm of nutes in it.... there is no way in the world any weed plant is going to consume all 500ppm out of the meduim... might only use 100ppm for example, so now when you water again at 500ppm at your next feed, also not till run off... you can expect the ppm of the meduim to go way higher than 500...and thats why you water till runoff in coco. next thing is when the coco dries out... the water is now less than when you watered it...naturally right? with this info, and the info about the plants not eating everything you give them each feed, what you will find is that the PPM starts to rise withing the water to the point the water can no longer hold all the nutes... and those nutes precipitate out of the water and become a salt again. so when you water till runoff, what you are actually doing is pushing out a lot of the high ppm solution and replacing it with fresh nutes at the right ppm level. this doesnt happen to such a great extent in soil and organic nutes as the nutes need to break down before they are available to the plant. So you are correct in saying you are kinda just pissing nutes away... but you are actually pissing away a high ppm solution which is bad for your plants anyways and then you get fertigation, which is constant feeding...and honestly...i have never seen amazing weed like @PsyCLown has grown in fertigation... i think you think coco and soil are similar...were they are in fact nothing alike.

im also skeptical that a dark plant will express that flavour.. purples and reds and blacks... they all have a distinct flavour in them, and nne of them are pineapply... the plant sure looks cool though

Although, if you are in coco and running synthetic nutes, then there should be no harm in watering every 3-4 days, as long as you water till runn off,... I think the main issue you had was the pot chilling in the runoff, and you have addressed that so you should be good again... Depending on how long and how deep the water was... The plant may continue to develop poor or weird growth for a while... a week is common.... So don't expect a miracle haha... But also... The plant looks in good shape, so it will be fine

I'm not so sure your method is wrong... But your religious every 3 days could be the problem... Lift the pot, and if it's lighter than it looks... Then give it a feed... If it's as heavy as it looks or heavier.. Then leave it for another day. Do you collect the run off? As long as the plants not siting in the run off water it will be fine...

HAHAHA... maybe one day ill learn to read properly

Brah, lol... the struggle is real!! i used to go days without needing to do anything at all...and it would be so irritating that i cant be in the next stage of the grow already haha but you should have them in pots by now, and if thats what your ladies are looking like 5 days ago, they must be looking real pretty about now

i agree with @PippinTook, that looks like an over watering issue. try raise your pot off the floor to get some airflow underneath it. crates work great for this if you have one.

Mother natures suckling teats

Thanks man! if they keep pace with my other seedlings, i may be ready to train them soon!... or not... i still have no idea how im going to grow them hahaha

if that is your range of temps, i dont thinkyou need to worry about improving it... its pretty spot on

whats up man! nice detailed posts! love it! but i have one major huge red flag.... how in the world the did you manage to tie the plants up like that? you must have the safest hands in all the west!!! generally, what you have done by tying them up like that equals the end of the grow because you would easily damage the soft sensitive stalks. i am in 2 minds to tell you to remove them right away and never tie the stems again... but i am nervous that you will damage the stems when you take the ties off... rather get the stem to lean on something.... or use half a toilet roll cardboard as a retainer, just slip it on like a sock... also, are you able to get that 120w light sooner? in all honesty, it would greatly boost your ladies...

And a Pic from last night.... No more boobies

Boobies!!!

Strange... his profile says he visited the forum yesterday

i would stop with the H202 sprays TBH, at most it is more of a preventative measure - when you can you should get yourself some of the products @The_StonedTrooper mentioned earlier, a typical arsenal would include pyrol, neem oil, copper soap, AQSF, h202, and then add various products for specific goggas if you need to oof,i thought they were a little earlier in flower... if your pm isnt bad...i would maybe go with a 30% solution of the stuff anyways to keep it at bay, and then going forward, treat them in veg and you wont suffer in flower.

i love the confidence!! stick around after the competition man, we could use some additional experience on the forum

nice! is a new fitting? or were you just experimenting?

on the contrary, i recommend full cream milk ... yea it does stink up the place, but i have never had an issue with mold after a milk spray, mold will only grow in an environment that has high RH all the time... 30-40% is great and mold will not survive in those conditions. @Noob1903, just remember that the ladies dont know what veg or day 21 in flower means... if you have leaves that are in the way all over eachother, then you gotta deal with it now, while its a problem... sure you can leave your bulk defoliation for those days... but never slack on removing leaves that are in the way

Whats up @Noob1903! good advice from the peeps so far! for PM i would get a bottle of copper soap and blast the ladies like ASAP! they are juuuust in the beginning of flower and you will get away with it... dont leave it for another week. you can pick some up from most nurseries or a hydro store one spray should keep the PM at bay for the remainder of the grow... spray everything though... walls, door, and lightly on your fans and lights and then wipe them down.... PM spores can and already are everywhere in the room... but one good spray should do the trick... use a pressure sprayer... you can pick up a 2l for 100 bucks from a makro or game or nursery. then, thats a sweet sized room! you can get a ton of ladies in there haha... but you are going to need more lights... a lot more lights... the 2x 220w fittings are good for a 1.2x1.2 area at most... and the T5s are best used as veg lights... what globes are those? they look like LED? i have yet to come across decent LED bulbs that fit into standard Fluorescent fittings.

theres 2 there. the ones not in the blue circle are 160l totes that i put about 60-80l and the one for the Red Mandarine is in a 110l tote, that i put roughly 60-80l in drill a few drainage holes underneath...use the lid as a runoff tray... and Bobs my aunty and Fannys my uncle

so... iv been thinking of your plants name and i cant shake the thought of Neo's spirit growing within the youngin!! but then i overthink and am like...wait...Neo is a boy... so this plant needs to be named Trinity.... which is quite ironic seeing that shes the only one out of the three you started with hehehe