PsyCLown

I've reached my limit

That Lemon Thai looks sooo good! Especially the middle picture with the colour on the leaves. Looks like a big plant too!

Very nice, what is that - the sativa plant?

I personally run Quantum Boards, chineses ones with Samsung LM301B diodes and I love them! I had some LED strips, decent diodes - Bridgelux, similar to the Samsung LM561C I believe although I did not have quite enough and it was not working as well for me so I moved my veg area back to Quantum Boards recently. So I veg and flower with those, both in 3000K actually. Nothing wrong with LED strips though, you could look at purchasing some from Arrow or DigiKey and making them yourself - mount it to some aluminium (u channels work well). You could also look at getting some decent COB LED's, make your own heatsink for those if you'd like. There are various options, how soon are you wanting the lights up and running? How long are you able to wait? Also where about are you based?

You have quite a large space, those are not great lights at all and would need a looooot to fill the room with light. Perhaps use what you have ordered and then save up and get some better lights when you're able to afford it. Those lights are also not really 1200W, perhaps 60w to 240w at most but their efficiency will be really low and the amount of light the plants can absorb from those LEDs won't be great either. So end of the day, you will need a lot more watts from those LEDs compare to quality LEDs, for example you may need 500w of those cheap LEDs to compare to 250w of quality LEDs and even then the results may differ - larger node spacing, buds being more airy and less dense etc. I typed out a nice explanation regarding LEDs here:

Consider an automated watering system. Will make life easier. Defoliation only happens around 2 or 3 times during flowering. I'm keen to try a scrog sometime. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Just keep giving water then. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Well you need to try flush too. Also different strains take different times to flower. Most hybrid indica strains are around 9 weeks flowering time. Sativas can take around 3 - 4 weeks longer. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Looks like a while still to me from what I can see. How long has she been flowering for? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

So the fade is starting on some of the plants: Tropicana FF: GDP, note that the GDP had a fan blowing directly on it and I suspect that is the cause of the curled leaves. Looks ugly but I'd rather have air circulation in my tent. Bruce Banner: Nothing from the GSC or CBD Critical Mass yet.

In theory, yes. In practice, it's a lot trickier. Often LED's on boards are wired up in a certain way to achieve a specific voltage range. So for example on my QB's some diodes are in series and then in parallel. My voltage is around 50v for these QB's. Changing the diodes for different ones will change that and it may not work, plus it's going to be a lot of work. The power supplies are set for a specific voltage and I'm not sure you'd be able to adjust the voltage on those built in power supplies. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Yeah, I think Hortimix may be cheaper. So rather just get some Hortimix then.

Welcome man! You growing indoors or outdoors? Give us more info, share your grow with us!

Yield does not look terrible. I think the EHG nutes are similar to Hortimix nutes which I have heard good things about and it's really well priced! If you wanted to increase yield and quality, I'd suggest using nutes and not just relying on the soil and bonemeal for nutrition and consider upgrading your lights at some point.

This Bruce Banner makes some seriously frosty buds! Also the fade during flower looks good. @Master_G and I are flowering this Bruce Banner at the moment. I am sure @CreX's harvest will be nothing short of amazing from this little plant.

I do not feel as if the early defoliation's had any negative effect on the plants, I do feel that the delay in doing the last defoliation of the large fan leaves had a negative effect on the plants. The bottom buds did not fill out as much.

So once again, a COB a type of LED, Chip on Board. End of the day, the actual type of LED in place on the COB will ultimately determine the performance. Let's use cars as an example, think of COB as a hatch back and a Quantum Board as a sedan. There are many different hatch backs and sedans. Now think of comparing a Hyundai i10 (a certain type of COB) to an Audi RS3 (another type of COB). Both are hatchback cars but the RS3 has way more power than the i10. The same applies to Quantum boards, compare a Honda Civic Sedan to a BMW M3 - both are sedans (Quantum Boards) but once again the M3 has way more power. It really comes down to the type of LED, that is where the difference comes into play the most. Not so much the way the LED is implemented, although that can certainly have a difference too. One of the main advantages of a Quantum Board over a COB is the source of light. With a COB (or even an HID - be it CMH, MH or HPS) is that there is a single source of light. One light bulb / one LED. A Quantum Board has multiple light sources, the QB's I use have 288 LED's (some a few more) per Quantum boards and in my flower tent I am currently running 4. So that is 1152 LED's in total, 1152 sources of light. This makes a big difference. A simple example is to imagine yourself standing in a room, with 1 light infront of you. Now behind you there will be a shadow. If you add a 2nd light behind you, the shadow isn't as noticeable. It is heavily reduce and will vary depending on the position of the light. When it comes to LED's, the biggest factor in performance still comes down to the LED itself. A car is a car, it gets you places. Some will just do so quicker and with more comfort than others. The same rings true for LED's, an LED is an LED in the sense that they will both produce light although the amount of light which is produced will differ along with how much of that light the plants can actually make use of. The second part being the most important, one cannot judge an LED grow light just based on how much light it actually outputs, the plants need to be able to make use of the light.

It's all about the diodes, Samsung make some great ones. Lm561c, lm301b, lm351h are all very popular diodes. Any of those will do fantastic in terms of growing and they all have high efficiency. I wouldn't bother with the CFLs. For clones they're fine, once the plant gets bigger you really want to move away. They're extremely inefficient actually, the power consumed and what the plant gets out of the light isn't great. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

If you purchases it from Takealot recently, you may still be able to return it. If you wanted to, although I'd only consider it if you are planning on upgrading to something better. I look at grow lights more as an investment, quality LED's will last you a long time. They are more efficient and therefore reduce your electricity bill and at the same time will help increase yield, leading to even better efficiency overall. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

If you use it as medicine, it sounds as if it's needed. You have the choice of either growing your own, where you have the ability to grow whatever strain you want and chances are the quality will be far superior to what you would be purchasing. Upfront it may cost a bit more, however will be far cheaper than purchasing all the time and save you money in the long run. The second option is to take the money and buy bud. In the long run it will end up costing more, but will be cheaper short term.

Soil makes a big difference, although light can make an even bigger difference. You need to try and simulate the sun in a way, not an easy task. If you have shit lights, but the best soil and nutes - your plants will still turn out shit. Without proper lighting your plants cannot produce food for themselves properly. Without proper lights, your plants may struggle with photosynthesis. IMO lights are probably one of the most important pieces of indoor grow equipment, without lights your plants wont flourish and may not even survive. Perhaps drop @CreX a PM regarding his HPS and see if he is still thinking about selling them. Then later on when circumstances are better, you can upgrade to some decent LED's. Alternatively, consider an outdoor grow until you can afford good lights.

I'd personally rather use the "1000W" light than that 50W COB type of light. Although ultimately, it would be worth while to try and save up and get some decent LEDs. What is your budget? I know @CreX may consider selling his HPS and Nova LED's soon, perhaps you can make a plan with him.

Where is the pic of the roots? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

I know! Mystery bagseed, cannot wait to try her out! I may even send some in to be tested to get an idea of her THC percent and consider breeding her with something else later on.

Day 107 / Day 55 of Flower A quick update, some pics I took this morning before the lights came on. Tropicana FF: Bruce Banner - I had to rest the branches against the side of the tent as they are falling over: GDP: GSC, some pistils are starting to brown as well: Might as well do an update on my Chocolope if anyone is not following that grow diary. The pistils are also starting to brown: