I leave them in water 4 12 hours then just pot straight into soil it's worked on everyother I've done also put top of Fanta bottle over till they poke there heads out then remove the bottle but after 2 failed attempts I've put a 3rd 1 in 2 bits of toilet paper mist sprayed the paper in between 2 plastic plates wrapped in towel on top of the boiler been 2 days no show yet. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk