Naughty.Psychonaut

GREAT you gona be fine those roots look good man yip, listen go back to the guy at the grow shop who told you that plant is hungry and ask him if it was his first day at the job? Don't wana be mean but in that position you cannot be telling people that crazy stuff!!! cannabis plants will grow 100% fine from the trace amount of nutrients in pure clean water for up to 2 months depending on strain before starting to become hungry. surely in a soil loaded with nutes this cannot be the case. but now that you got some FF it will be much easier to narrow down the situation. you got enough food in FF soil to last you a good while. A few good rules to follow in a organic situation is "Rather too little than too much" and "Let your plant tell you she's dry and hungry then feed her, instead of overfeeding and then having to deal with root damage". lift the pots did you water them in with 5.8ph water? with a living soil situation you gotta aim for the 5.5 to 5.9 range when the plant is young then you gradually raise the ph as the plant gets older never going over 6.5. take ph readings once everythings mixed into the water already, then adjust if needed. as mentioned the soil can buffer up from 4.5 or so, but I will try my best to keep it in range at this point. bring all these little things in check and you'll see your olant explode with new growth.

I do have trust issues... aswell as faith issues yeah all is said with good intent brother, thanks I know there are couple facilities out there that have been banking pure plant genetics through the years, but we're not getting our seeds from them. Think about this, if there is a specific guy who has his hands on a genetic and been keeping it pure by genetic isolation and he knows that the whole world is looking for the strain, there is gona be 1 of 2 outcomes. 1 - he will protect it at all costs and will be almost impossible to get. 2 - he makes it available and everyone will have it. this forum / thread is also a good example for how badly people want this strain. from all corners of the earth people are looking for it. I put the little bit of faith I can gather in the idea that someone probably has grown out a couple of the seeds from the place you talking about, which would be very plausible since they're for sale to anyone who can find their way to the website you just dropped a link to. and that crumbles my trust in the idea that they might have the real deal profile. so much has happened and changed and time has passed that these days you will get a different strain, with a different lineage completely, but carries a profile more similar to the original skunk profile than the actual original skunk genetic profile that gained all the buzz back in the day. and we wouldn't even know it.

yeah, that's wild! the wild thing being that people who experienced the original skunk in the era it gained popularity are still around today and it is amongst them that the strain has gained this unicorn status, as they say, yet you're telling me anyone who has internet can just simply buy the strain today, order it online and it's gona be the exact thing everyone is buzzing on about? I think there is a big gap in the discussion that is pretty key to the object here and that is the genetic profile. I still carry my ancestors genetics, but I don't look the same as them or anything. Why is that? I guess, because of time basically, and that everything changes all the time. Environmental conditions trigger physiological morphology, the impact of human intervention and how it's surroundings and the longitude and latitude of the plants will all have an impact on its genetic profile and therefore on its future generations. The genetic might still be somewhere, but that profile is lost. maybe through extensive phenohunting you might find something close, but sooooo many people have been hunting, crossing and back crossing, just to get a similar profile to the original skunk that was lost (this is why we have 1000 different breeders claiming they got something similar to the original skunk, every seed bank has a different one, because of this fact) that I don't feel confident enough in believing untill I've seen and smelled something that makes me think of a skunk and falls under description given by one of the real big time breeders. because I would have nothing else to "cross reference" it to anyway, it would just have to alter my mind itself.

Last Zkittle came down last night, tent will get a deep clean tonight. Banana getting there

hmmm this is wild there you guys go! looks like the legit shit is still around well, once all grown out I would love to hear from the guys with the totally legit original skunk seeds how close to the real deal their genetics got?

what's gooooood yeeeah that's a lock out from root damage liking the lean towards the FF already, would be in your best interest to get a bag asap. I am with @The Grass Baas on flushing them in the medium they're in to get the roots a bit stronger before repot. Here is why I would say, repot always comes with some shock and in this case it will be even more because when you repot them you're going to want to remove a lot of the current soil (bark in your rhizosphere will encourage pest and diseases, and I am affraid the bark isn't the only problem here, from what the plant is telling me it does not look like the right composition for cannabis really) and in doing so you will have to put your surgical hands on for a moment and make sure you do not damage a single root when removing the soil. To ensure a successful surgery you'll need to work with healthier stronger roots. TWO LITTLE NB POINTS OF NOTE - THE FLUSH NB: the area I am in I get water out the tap sitting steady at 8.5 to 9 ph, I cannot flush with that even though I am in a organic situation and people say "organic soil will buffer the ph for you" that doesn't mean I can pour 20L of 9ph water through 1L of growing medium and expect it to still be in the 5.8 - 6.2 range.... soooo just be aware of this! you know the ph of the water in your area? THE DRAINAGE NB: if your medium gets waterlogged you might drown the baby, as it is a very very young plant and it is very easy to drown / dampen off the little ones, you may wana pay attention to your drainage. how long does the medium stay wet throughout the pot? maybe do a little testy test, grab same size pot, fill with soil and no plant, saturate the medium and see how long it dries out? if it takes longer than 5 days (in your tent, where you will be growing, not outside in the sun) then that means you got a waterlogging issue and flushing the girls in a medium that doesn't drain well will kill them quicker than they dying right now. if that's the case, I'll say wait till they dried out completely, transplant right away into FF with no surgery, give just enough water for new medium to be moist (at this time the old medium should be dried out) and hope for the best. use some mycoroot when transplanting.

was diagnosed in 2004 was put on some generic methylphenidate, didn't do shit. was sent to "focus classes" as a kid like being told I was stupid wasn't damage enough... was put on ritalin, nothing changed, was put on concerta, started taking the stuff for the fun of it cause I liked it, but never helped me focus. later on didn't have much interest in the stuff anymore and stopped taking even the recommended doses. I started smoking weed in 2008, but never helped me focus or anything like that. what it did help with is keeping me from bouncing off the walls and brought me closer to mushrooms which then got me behind the books and gave me a better focus. so for weed helping with the adhd, I would say for me it defs helped with the hyperactiveness but not much with the focus. and if it wasn't for weed I'd probably still be chowing some sort of methylphenidate kak, which was the biggest help of all

Welcome can't wait to see what you bring!

how was the moisture in the pot with the younger plant? do you only have the issue of the top layer being bone dry with the mature harvest ready plants? if this is the case then it's perfectly normal. pots are same size one with more root mass will mean more water uptake which will cause the water/moisture to never move all the way up to the top of the pot. capilary action will be effected. where as a young plant with less roots will take longer to suck the medium dry and your capilary action will be closer to normal. I would say if you wanted to test the capilary capabilities of your medium, rig a autopot with nothing but medium in it and see what you get? other than that, if you say the F1 medium is right as is and you followed autopot instructions then maybe contact autopot people and tell them you done everything right and there's a design flaw in their product

Hi @MrE hope you got a real good deal on that tent I see you gona be flowering in there, just wana make sure you don't get light leaks from those open duct ports with the fans in them. Does the room the tent is in black out completely or are you doing something else to prevent light coming in there? as for the hole, tape would probably work, you know the aluminium tape all the grow shops sell? use that to cover the hole from the inside. once done with this grow I would highly suggest getting it stitched to prevent further tearing on the seam. It's literally easy as pie, you could stitch it by hand if you know how to cross stitch. A kid could do it. If you know anyone with a sewing machine, even better. Will be a 2min job and save you a whole tent. then the mold.... damn brother..... you don't think it would've served you better to clean the tent before bringing a plant over? I would take that tent outside in the warm sun and wash it down with every disinfectant I own a couple times over and I would let it stand for a few days to see if nothing grows again before bringing a plant in. especially a plant that's so close to flower and I can't really do many IPM treatments on her anymore.

I don't think covering the top is our answer here, because it's not your lights or airflow that's causing the drying of the top medium, but rather a poor wicking if I am understanding correctly? It was our good man @CreX who made a short threada while ago regarding this Key words are "capilary action" maybe give this a looksee? you could research more, but it's a good starting point, because that seems to be where your problem lies. maybe look into adding some peatmoss or good quality coco to your medium?

hahahah there you get some convincing already! you know everyone uses it, how much more convincing do you need hahah yeah no honestly the biggest thing for me about FF is the consistency, I have tried a few different brands and I keep coming back to FF simply because each time the next best thing comes along everyone tries it untill someone runs into a hot batch or something, I've heard a lot of soils are more attractive breeding grounds for unwanted fungus gnats and soil dwellers that you dont want, specially with soils that contain bark. trust us, joooooiiin uuuuss I like what @donnob said, the difference in your yield wild be worth waaayy more than the R70

only a pleasure with the experimental plants being bag seed they might turn out male, so just keep an eye on that. best for them would be to wait till about 3 sets of true leaves then "pre-sex" them by placing them in a 12/12 light cycle to see what sex they are, males get culled females go back into veg with the rest. if you veg them till they big you gona waste space, time and money. unless you want a big male. that 420mix, who makes it? Is it that 3sixty stuff? I haven't heard too much about it, but still would suggest going for FreedomFarms Premium Classic next time you buy for when you pot up. with it being in a living soil I am assuming you gona go with organic nutrients? that Environoc was the right move, you added some microbes to the soil, they'll form a win win relationship with the roots of the plants and the soil. they "eat" organic compounds that the plant can't break down itself yet, and they "poop" out stuff your plant can uptake. basically... now you gotta keep those little microbes alive by giving it more organic compounds, so stick to organic nutrients, they're rich in organic compounds. I would suggest biobizz with the added organic dry ammendment here and there. hahahah ooh ok cool cool, I am seeing it as a perfect square in the photo, but I see now the pixels look a little distorted in some places have you any IPM in place brother? this is a must for any type of gardener.

what's goood @Dookie69 was watching a cannacribs youtube video last night, got these two screen grabs for you check the video out. there's two different times they discuss the covering of the top of the grow medium. click on the link that takes you to youtube.

Welcome! Looks like you got all the right stuff there bud! Excited to see the difference between the 4 sugarcane phenos and what you do with them! You gona grow the experiment plants out aswell? What soil you using brother, looks a bit barky. That tent doesn't look like it's 120x60, did you get 2 tents or is this something else?

Zkittle#3 last lady in the tent now. Seems this pheno will be making smaller buds than her sisters. I've noticed a lot of cases same genetics making smaller buds when they're more resinous, but this does not seem to be the case here, although I have to mention that she stinks waaaaayy better than her sisters, getting the closest to a true zkittle smell from her out of the 3 phenos. I am already seeing 50% milky trichomes (which I like) but no amber trichomes inside the buds yet (so no chop yet) I am allowing another 2 weeks max (hopefully she puts on a little weight) after 2 weeks still not getting amber and buds still same size she will get the chop nonetheless. I would've assumed the cold will push her to finish quicker, but maybe it's too cold and slowing things down a bit. seeing as she's the only one in the tent I'll give her 24 to 48hr dark periods during the last week to see if I can help the final push and help with trichome ripeness. I have to say I am more excited to get this space all cleaned out and filled up again with the next run than I about the bounty of the current grow.

there are a few generic brands that are local who you can get potting soil from. Reliance being one of them then there's also DoubleGrow and a few others. I have to say I don't really trust any of them. I used to support Reliance, so if I had to choose between the two I would go with Reliance, but get their compost and work it into the beds, not potting soil as it would contain too much sand. Work the compost into the beds, water it in well for a good 2 weeks or so then you're ready to go. Personally if I was making beds, I would go cow poop and put in the physical labour, tilling and watering into the beds for a month or so. We live in farm country, driving through farm areas you bound to find a farm that has compost heaps or cows, very easy to find good manure around.

think @Weskush is trying to build a bed outdoors, he sais 1m x 2m wide and 20cm deep so I am assuming this will be ontop of soil and not completely a box, so I don't think used ff will be best option even if he ammends it with elemental blend.

I agree 2000 is a bit much just for transport, but it does have to travel quite a distance and bulk soil is not something that packs light. I have heard of people scouting around facebook for groups in the areas you need transport between and then make a post there for what you want transported, see if you get any bites. perhaps there's someone with a empty bakkie driving down at some point that's willing to help you for less than 2k atleast, but you still will have to pay transport in any case. they really do have a nice price though and I wouldn't mind trying it myself, but seeing as some forum members are going to try it out for us I might aswell sit back and watch, if it's good stuff it'll get enough support to hopefully make it to the retailers around here, hopefully.

what I did for my upcoming outdoor grow, because I am growing in pots, I just took all my old ff soil and added 30% of it's weight in wormcastings. done been sitting for 2 or 3 weeks now. will plant in it by Oct.

hahahah sheeeeet sorry brother, that wasn't meant as an suggestion for you, juuuust cz prom was referring to mr.canuk who mixes a premix organic dry ammendment that's why I show those, that's a similar product, but yeah for your situation I would recommend either the elemental blend as above, or just keep it plain and simple and grab a bag of wormcastings. WAIT, first gotta ask. what you are working with already? I see this is for a raised bed. the existing soil, is it right for gardening? no use to moer a bunch of expensive products on some seasand soil or some clay rich soil, so knowing what you working with is key here. now you gona look for a base, because you can't mix the whole thing with wormcastings either... I have made MANY MANY MANY garden beds. and when I say MANY....... lol. just have a look at the beds at Babylonstoren Gardens in Fraschoek, great inspiration there, they remake those beds monthly and have literally hundereds of beds all made in different ways and with different little tips and tricks. As part of my permaculture internship I worked those beds for a while... Maybe show a picture of the area, dig like a spade depth, see the soil profile, if it's too sandy or too much clay you gona have to work the bottom soil first. THEN you fill ontop. get in contact with the nearest dairy farm around your area, ask them what a bakkie load of fresh cow manure will cost. befriendly, they don't sell the stuff like that and if you get your wording right you might be getting a bakkie load for free. otherwise search for local compost makers, go to where they make the stuff and ask for the freshest straight from the cows stomach poop. you can use horse poop too, but they carry loads of weeds, because a horse does a poor job of digestion. a cow has 4 "compartments" in their stomach so they digest weed seeds and their poop is way waaaayy hotter. with either of these, once you filled the bed you gona have about a week of stinky smells lingering in your yard (I love the fresh farm smell) probably a bit more so with cow poop, but then horse poop attracts gnats. so again the cow poop wins. you gona have to let it sit and water the stuff in for a good month, tilling once weekly, but don't plant anything for a month or you'll burn the shit out any plants. from there you golden, you gona work that little bed for a good long time before having to bring in new soil again or top dress with new compost.

fokken naaaas boet am I tripping or is that duct coming right through the qb? if you got a christmas tree by Dec, you gona sit with roughly another 5 to 6 months before the outdoor flower season starts. by that time you should have the 200L pot fully grown in. which would probably be just too big to flower her inside. and outside will be bit of a stretch unless you give her an even bigger pot or go straight into the ground to push her through till outdoor flower cycle starts then grow a 2kilo plant hahahah

420 friendly accommodation, will be sure to get some attention infact, so 420 friendly you'll be camping out in the grow space right next to the plants!

I do not have a instagram account, but that is a very interesting video indeed!

to be honest I was under the impression that all the original genetics from the plant that was grown to cross with, which would have been this "skunk" weed, had seen so many different grow rooms/setups all over the world and now exists in other strains to certain extent, but the first true "skunk" unbread or crossed with, was called "skunk#1" and that it's basically just a myth these days could be way off with this, but hey this is what I have heard and how my perception of the situation sits at the moment, if you could tell me more on the subject? maybe I should dig into it a little