Naughty.Psychonaut

welcome!! what strain you got growing there?

100% fine to smoke that brother, the naners don't have any trichomes on them so you can pick them out like you would with pips, or leave them if you lazy, wont hurt you much more than the rest of the carbon based plant material that gets combusted and inhaled when smoked.

yeah, rule of thumb is cool colours for veg warm colours for flower. excited to see what she does for you

hahah hell yeah bud, right K for veg? make note of the 20000h it states on the box, they usually come with a warrenty so if it runs out before hitting those numbers you just run and get a new one.

I have had good genetics die on me, grew it way too long, the plant looked exactly like that. ended up having to cut all the dead brown matter away, saved what I could, but the smoke was worse than the worst weed you can think of. think it had to do with the fact that the trichomes where so over developed most of them meant nothing and the few that was still "viable" where probably amber as fuck and no good. the weed literally just gave me a headache and put me to sleep. I threw the whole plant in the fire for the fun of it you might have some hope here. best to do, get optimal conditions from here on out. cut the bitch and hang her in complete darkness with fresh air exchange, no fan blowing directly on the stuff but air must be moving. aim for 50% humidity slow dry 10 - 14 days, trim and jar. then cure the fuck out her, burp jars for 30min a day for a month. try keep the jars in the dark too. don't do anything now to further risk loss of trichomes. if you wana be able to smoke some of that stuff atleast.

now I am wondering how long before you split the room, white out the walls and light the whole joint up hahah

what's good, Commander! welp, this was the closest the forum has come to having an actual BigMac growing out some cannabis! got anything cooking?

you don't let them dry between waterings?

oh man, having light troubles can really suck hey if you got like R4 / 500 in your pocket and wana make it through, I would suggest looking at the incased LED flood lights, aim for the IP65 ones that means its weather proof and built to last. you not gona get it wet, but trust me you don't wana save R100 and then only have the light last another 2 months. I got a 50w floodlight for R450 a while ago when I built a grow box myself. still running strong I haven't flowered under it, but it's cool white spectrum and got my plants vegging like magic, there's a thread on it I can link you to if you wana check it out. you could possibly get 2 of them, one cool white and a warm white. comes flower time you put both

KING TRUMPET first one for the colder months compared to regular sized oyster the weigh in

hahahah a biltong strain this is what a proper weskush ou will say hahah I love it, just don't know if I would smoke it hey but now my mouth is watering for some of that yellow fat biltong! actually came across a local strain called "mac burger" recently. lol! not a bad smoke anyone on here familiar with Natures Farmacy?? I never know when a strain has been grown properly or when it's different phenos. so might have smoked the same strain couple times and only enjoyed it once or other way around. that's why I like to try everything twice hahah or 10 times depending on situation obviously not even once if it looks and smells like horse shit. got to smoke some gorilla glue a while back, looked 100% like the strain. but even the jar had no smell, grind the bud up and you get a fucking wierd burnt food kinda smell. you smoke it and you get hit in the chest so damn hard you have to run outside for fresh air, your lungs feel like there's an elephant sitting on your chest and your nose starts running and shit. feels like a too biiiig dab and the taste aswell, like fucking strong extracts. but it was just a bud..... now if I could have that everytime I would, but I don't even know who grew it and that's obviously all of our first questions "who the fuck grew this" wish I could get my hands on that cut, but I probably wouldn't even get it to turn out like that. still would like to try hahah

whats up! welcome!! nice grow room you got there man, I am sure many of us would love to have a extra room like that!

oh the A,B,MKP ferts? yeah, same situation, if you where in organic it would just be less of a worry actually. so you in coco perlite mix? growing with synthetics should rather not be done in soil, so this leads to a "hydroponic" situation you could check runoff ph just to be sure it's in range. check reading before giving aswell. now you have to go on memory. did you give a lot of nutes over the past week or two? and by a lot I mean anything more than a recommended dose? if you're in soil chances are there's already a bunch of nutes available to the plant and the nutes you gave pushed it over the limit. if you're in coco and you gave a bunch of stuff it is possible to have a build up on the roots. do you alternate between feed and clean water, this is also a rule of thumb when growing in a medium along with synthetic plant food. to prevent nute build up. if you in coco, was the coco washed and buffered? could result in huge problems using unwashed and unbuffered coco. if washed and buffered and you can remember you been giving only recommended doses and she's doing that, then I'll concider deficiencies. often times we feel like we do too little then we love the plants to death by giving and doing too much. also, a ppm pen can be real cheap and take a lot of guessing out of the game.

I am assuming it's an organic grow? you got a ppm pen? as you said you been giving lots, cal & mag test run off first, see if it's not toxification? if low ppm you can feed, if high ppm just flush. another might be ph out of range so plant isn't uptaking what it should or too much of something it doesn't actually want. don't just do anything cz you worried and feel like you need to do something, first point out the problem don't believe when people say you can go all willy nilly with the organic stuff, LESS IS MORE. that is something I don't hear enough. and ph CAN be a problem. everyone asked me why I was phing my water in organic grow so I felt stupid, then I stopped and my plants fucked out, got me running round like a headless chicken. lost a whole grow. almost fucked another grow right in the ass. till I checked my runoff.... ph was waaaaayyy out sitting at 8.something and my ppm sitting way up in outer space, glad my plants didn't catch fire. because of tooo much nutes and plain tap water.

what hahahah so I was wrong about being wrong, the F4s generally have more stability across the board. crazyness... I would assume this is only the case when you been doing everything on point since the beginning. have seen some questionable breeding projects go down hahah never had the pleasure of following a project along that got so far as to make f4s will be very exciting to see how they turn out!!

Thanks, will try it, either way I don't think it's going to be useful to keep them. Thanks for the heads up yeah no brother I wouldn't do that to myself. you deserve better

sorry this was dumb to ask, obviously it doesn't.

I see, I have also noticed that stress can push them to show preflowers. a batch of clones all from the same plant, 2 started stressing pushed pistils during 18.6. some guys wait about a month, then just switch to 12.12 just to get the sex and then take things from there. so ultimately, you are stabilising, but still have to complete a few runs? according to your way of look and feel would you concider them stable at F4 because of the line you're working with or does this stay the same across the board? and do you first do a run to see how many different traits pop up or how would you determine pheno stability?

I have seen my plants show sex on 18.6 before but haven't noticed it that early, might just have to train my eye a bit I understand you say the F2 is where the real hunt begin, but coming from the F1 that is already stable to an extent would they not already be a bit more stable? Are the F2s being bred to isolate traits of the current Tortonis or because you're looking for different traits? I see I see, I guess part of the growers responsibility is also plant health and obviously, or more like hopefully every true breeder will only care to work with healthy plants that are not making their days harder. before I got on the forum and really started growing I remember hearing a lot about this Chocolope strain, everyone was growing it and this was about 2-3 years back. so I know you been working with it for a while. then I joined the forum when, lo and behold, the mastermind behind it all. I feel honored!

did they start sexing after a month on 18/6 then or do you only start counting now? another question I have on this topic is, when pheno hunting to stabilise a genetic when does one bring in stressing factors to see how well who does and fights for itself against pests and diseases? do you use a refractometer or just go by looks and your personal feel?

nice! bud, tell me, are you gona dry those buds? they should not go into jars right away.

forgot to mention your main reason, it blacks it out

Link to the thread, you can see all intake and outlets was simply covered with panty hoe.

buy some cheap one size fits all panty hoe and nice cable ties. block off both sides intake and out. this will make it sit nice and snug aswell as catch most of the dust moving through, did something similar a while back. still got her, but shes retired now. will look for the thread I posted about it

I think most of the people I know of that side that might be able to provide a clone is the guys here on the forum, hope someone can sort you out bro. pm and bud rot will only get worse over time, so if you leave her she possibly might die completely and if you harvest with mold on the plant and concider smoking it you might be doing more harm here than good.