Naughty.Psychonaut

First, Big thanks for taking the time to share some knowledge guys! I had a bit of a wake up call yesterday on my way home from work, got home and started researching a bunch. realised I can do as much research as I want, but without complete understanding of what I need to be researching I am just shooting in the dark, ended up just sitting there thinking what I could have done that's causing this and the most obvious conclusion I could pull is that I over fed them as it's very clear earlier on in the thread. jumped onto some research about toxifications and found what I was looking for. Not a way to fix my problem, but a way to take the guessing out of the whole situation. I needed to know exactly what's going on in my soil, so... here is what I did I poured some tap water and took some readings, came out at 9.0ph and 0.0 EC. brought the ph down to 5.8 and EC is right. Took the plant with the most stress, gave it 1L of this water, got runoff and the ph was steady at 5.9, but the EC gave a reading of "OR", had to check the users manual, it meant "Out of Range" and the range goes up to 9.9. The preferred EC for a 2 month old plant in organic soil is 0.3 to 1.2... Still wasn't sure where my soils EC was, cz I got the "OR" reading. I gave another 1L and took the readings of that runoff and EC was 9.3... so coming into range, but waaaaaayyy above where it needs to be. basically too many dissolved solids, too many parts per million. This all perfectly correlates to me giving waaaaay too much nutes before. Plant was overfed, soil was clogged with nutes, plants roots where getting scortched and this is causing all sorts of chaos. cause of the abundance of nutes the plant is getting burnt while also showing signs of deficiencies cause of the lock out caused by the toxicity. Carried on flushung till I hit the 1.3 EC mark and repeated the process with all of them. Not even sure if what I did was right, but will see how they react over the next few days.

what's up good people, since they got flushed and looked much better, I went ahead and gave 0.25/L of Biobizz grow, like @StickyD420 and @Totemic suggested. opened up the tent this morning to see this... I was thinking of flushing with 6.0 ph and 0.0 ppm, get some runoff and test the ph and ppm of that. I am aiming for 5.9ph and 0.1 to 0.2 ppm, is this correct?

just a quick update. topped with some mycoroot and and DE (just in case), gave clean rain water at 1.5 of the amount of feed I will mix, so had a little run off, took it out the drip trays. waited till it was very dry.. gave 0.5ml/L Grow, 1L each plant and sprayed with neem, same night, two days later did a defoliation took the photo last night will repot soon into 30L

if you're composting an infested plant best to make sure the bugs are all dead before composting. a bit like growing fruits, if you see insects in the fruits no point in composting it, because you basically farming those insects and helping them to thrive.

brother check this out I don't have any experience with it so can't say what kinda effect it will have during flower, but maybe some of the forum members will be able to shed some more light on the product. what I do have experience with is struggling to find anything that is at all OK to spray during flower. even plain water on your flowers can cause things to go south if you don't know what you're doing. hands down, best of the best results, would be a preventative mesure. I know it's too late now, but for future just keep this in mind. You buy a bottle of BioNeem, once a week you make 1 to 2L of it and spray all your plants. (IN VEG ONLY!!!) and I mean ALL your plants. the way this porduct works is gold, it strengthens the immune system of your plants giving it the strength to fight against diseases by itself aswell as making the plant unfavourable for insects. this porduct will not harm beneficial bugs, because beneficial bugs don't eat your plants. the Neem also provides a number of trace elements and even some secondry nutrients with each application acting as a growth stimulant aswell. I haven't seen pests ot any kinda mold in my garden for ages don't know why people would go any other route.

not much to update, but thought I'd show the girls very happy to see the 2 that started stressing is getting their colour back and looking better every day. few burnt tips here and there. definitly too much N for all of the girls. I'll give them numbers as in order of apeal, they all got all the same nutes and only two reacted so strong, so might just be weaker genetics. Zkittly Zizi #1 top view structure Zkittly Zizi #2 top view her structure - growth was also stunted Zkittly Zizi #3 top view her structure - also stunted a bit here is the Sour Lemon OG her structure will probably give them another 2 weeks then put them all in 30L pots then tie them back a bit more

@Bay Seeds We having a laugh cause of a thread I made regarding the whole OG myth and that lead to a thing about naming strains, not joking bout what you doing over there man, you're cooking up a big batch of goodness there! Who's the breeder of the skunk#1 you got there? I have always heard some great things about the strain, but I don't think I ever had the pleasure of experiencing the actual thing.

fuck hahahahahah I wanted to say that!!!

call it OG skunk what you guys think @Thunder Grown @Prom @PsyCLown

phew Ok, for now I will just be letting the pots dry, once dry I'll drop 0.5ml/L Grow only. think I'm just gona check runoff ppm and ph juuuust in case. will check values of solution going in aswell so I can see what the soil has to say Just to check in with the big boys, Biobizz recommends not to adjust ph when growing in living soil and using their product range for living soils, but as we all now know they recommend all sorts of crazy shit like their nute chart, so can't say I am too comfortable taking their recommendations anymore. what do you guys do?

I got some Ethos off Trophy a while back brother, they came in Trophy seeds packs, but I got a mess of different breeders' stuff and it seems to be legit, all beans are what they where expected to be not sure bout GSR tho

@SAgrower what's good bud, I think this might be the easiest way to explain it, though there are many layers of variables to consider. you have 2 fully fems, right, you treat one with Silver Thiosulphate Solution or Colloidal Silver and it pushes pollen that carries the female genetic, use that to knock up the other fem and there you go, fem seeds. now, you can't just go all willy nilly and do this where ever and whenever you like. you'll need to consider few things such as the space you doing it in...

update - First I would like to give a big thanks to @Totemic @Prom @PsyCLown I would have done some damage if you guys didn't tell me to cut back on the nutes so soon! It seems that I have ran into either toxicity or deficiency, here is a photo of the very lady that started clawing, because I gave too much I am leaning towards it being excess of something, what do you guys think? It looks like only new growth comoing out light green, so this means it's an immobile nutrient? overall growth is also stunted. was thinking either Phosphorus or Potassium, but those are both mobile nutes. what is the chance of this being a deficiency?

@PsyCLown with the car thing, I had no idea what you where saying, bur knew exactly what was meant hahahah it's a good way to explain a bunch of thing as I've seen you do here on the forum as in all situations in life there are many layers to a situation and looking at cars there is never just one answer. one question leads to 1000 other questions.

same here man, cannabis induced sweet tooth like no ones business. always got a pack of gummies stashed away along with my weed.

hahahah you like your car references bro I agree here, "OG kush" the whole word sells well, now go to Tom, Dick and Harry and tell them you got some OG whatever, they will buy, because of the term. even more so when it's "OG kush". if the dudes not completely new to weed he will atleast know what you mean is "it's good weed".

I would say in this case that there should be way more OG's. like OG skunk, cz there's 100 different kinds of skunk, but there should be a OG kind, not true? The landrace skunk gene should be OG skunk then, by formality. a OG basically of every strain then......

they traded seeds, not charas. probably not even bud as much, but more seeds. like the BIG SEEDS TRADE, that went on for centuries and started wars and shit. recriational cannabis smoke inhalation been happening for many many many, if I remember right, even before seen as holy sacrament and used in religious ways. before then more only textiles, rope and such. there are even prehestoric drawings found that indicates the ritualistic use of a sacred herb as spiritual medicines, a herb that looks suspiciously alot like cannabis, but the oaks didn't have the best abilities to make good art, so it looks kinda like palm leaves might even be extinct species what I am saying is not that this was the only weed plant that grew in any of those regions, this was likely just the one strain that most people liked. there was no way of testing thc and cbd and all the terpenes and all that shit back in those days.

where is this from? how is this so very little known? that area seems dry man, even the air. compared to when you move over to the side of asia, Burma is a literal jungle. if I may ask, what makes you believe soooo strong that it couldn't have come from Vietnam, even regarding the fact that they traded in seeds for over 20 years in the 50's to 60's. just think about it... cannabis was highly sought after, people wanted to trade this and move the stuff around. there was landraces in that area, why wouldn't they trade it?

these mountains?? the wettests it gets is the flash flood when the ice melts here's a map to show rivers, dams and well everything looks like minimal rivers and dams, most water and glaciers are on the side of the Karakoram Mountain range, which is not part of the Hindu Kush Mountain range. so I don't think they would've called it Hindu Kush if it came from somewhere next to Hindu Kush. but who knows, not me....

The name Kush picked up, because it was popularised from the Kush Mountains man. but it was indica. meaning it HAD to travel there. if it traveled from another dry area, wouldn't it have been more sativa? I mean, like you said, Kush is pure Indica. how does this happen?

Yeah, it seems for the most part, all the stories are about the Waldos. just not sure if the name stuck because of the formal political gathering regarding cannabis legislations, or just the random group of people that would come around every 4.20 at 4:20 to 420 all together hahah I guess not as much a myth to that one, but still a nice topic

are you saying that the pure indica strain first grew in the Afghani mountains, there is no single way that it could've travled there? remember Indica doesn't come from dry areas

so why this day?

yeah, best charas in the world come from that region. what I am saying though is you don't get indica genealogy in the desert. the fact that it's a pure indica idicates that it's not originally from the Hindu Kush moutains, but rather from somewhere indica naturally grows. speculations say it's from Vietnam, since Afghanistan traded ALL sorts of seeds through means of the silk road in 1950-1970.