Naughty.Psychonaut

call it OG skunk what you guys think @Thunder Grown @Prom @PsyCLown

phew Ok, for now I will just be letting the pots dry, once dry I'll drop 0.5ml/L Grow only. think I'm just gona check runoff ppm and ph juuuust in case. will check values of solution going in aswell so I can see what the soil has to say Just to check in with the big boys, Biobizz recommends not to adjust ph when growing in living soil and using their product range for living soils, but as we all now know they recommend all sorts of crazy shit like their nute chart, so can't say I am too comfortable taking their recommendations anymore. what do you guys do?

I got some Ethos off Trophy a while back brother, they came in Trophy seeds packs, but I got a mess of different breeders' stuff and it seems to be legit, all beans are what they where expected to be not sure bout GSR tho

@SAgrower what's good bud, I think this might be the easiest way to explain it, though there are many layers of variables to consider. you have 2 fully fems, right, you treat one with Silver Thiosulphate Solution or Colloidal Silver and it pushes pollen that carries the female genetic, use that to knock up the other fem and there you go, fem seeds. now, you can't just go all willy nilly and do this where ever and whenever you like. you'll need to consider few things such as the space you doing it in...

update - First I would like to give a big thanks to @Totemic @Prom @PsyCLown I would have done some damage if you guys didn't tell me to cut back on the nutes so soon! It seems that I have ran into either toxicity or deficiency, here is a photo of the very lady that started clawing, because I gave too much I am leaning towards it being excess of something, what do you guys think? It looks like only new growth comoing out light green, so this means it's an immobile nutrient? overall growth is also stunted. was thinking either Phosphorus or Potassium, but those are both mobile nutes. what is the chance of this being a deficiency?

@PsyCLown with the car thing, I had no idea what you where saying, bur knew exactly what was meant hahahah it's a good way to explain a bunch of thing as I've seen you do here on the forum as in all situations in life there are many layers to a situation and looking at cars there is never just one answer. one question leads to 1000 other questions.

same here man, cannabis induced sweet tooth like no ones business. always got a pack of gummies stashed away along with my weed.

hahahah you like your car references bro I agree here, "OG kush" the whole word sells well, now go to Tom, Dick and Harry and tell them you got some OG whatever, they will buy, because of the term. even more so when it's "OG kush". if the dudes not completely new to weed he will atleast know what you mean is "it's good weed".

I would say in this case that there should be way more OG's. like OG skunk, cz there's 100 different kinds of skunk, but there should be a OG kind, not true? The landrace skunk gene should be OG skunk then, by formality. a OG basically of every strain then......

they traded seeds, not charas. probably not even bud as much, but more seeds. like the BIG SEEDS TRADE, that went on for centuries and started wars and shit. recriational cannabis smoke inhalation been happening for many many many, if I remember right, even before seen as holy sacrament and used in religious ways. before then more only textiles, rope and such. there are even prehestoric drawings found that indicates the ritualistic use of a sacred herb as spiritual medicines, a herb that looks suspiciously alot like cannabis, but the oaks didn't have the best abilities to make good art, so it looks kinda like palm leaves might even be extinct species what I am saying is not that this was the only weed plant that grew in any of those regions, this was likely just the one strain that most people liked. there was no way of testing thc and cbd and all the terpenes and all that shit back in those days.

where is this from? how is this so very little known? that area seems dry man, even the air. compared to when you move over to the side of asia, Burma is a literal jungle. if I may ask, what makes you believe soooo strong that it couldn't have come from Vietnam, even regarding the fact that they traded in seeds for over 20 years in the 50's to 60's. just think about it... cannabis was highly sought after, people wanted to trade this and move the stuff around. there was landraces in that area, why wouldn't they trade it?

these mountains?? the wettests it gets is the flash flood when the ice melts here's a map to show rivers, dams and well everything looks like minimal rivers and dams, most water and glaciers are on the side of the Karakoram Mountain range, which is not part of the Hindu Kush Mountain range. so I don't think they would've called it Hindu Kush if it came from somewhere next to Hindu Kush. but who knows, not me....

The name Kush picked up, because it was popularised from the Kush Mountains man. but it was indica. meaning it HAD to travel there. if it traveled from another dry area, wouldn't it have been more sativa? I mean, like you said, Kush is pure Indica. how does this happen?

Yeah, it seems for the most part, all the stories are about the Waldos. just not sure if the name stuck because of the formal political gathering regarding cannabis legislations, or just the random group of people that would come around every 4.20 at 4:20 to 420 all together hahah I guess not as much a myth to that one, but still a nice topic

are you saying that the pure indica strain first grew in the Afghani mountains, there is no single way that it could've travled there? remember Indica doesn't come from dry areas

so why this day?

yeah, best charas in the world come from that region. what I am saying though is you don't get indica genealogy in the desert. the fact that it's a pure indica idicates that it's not originally from the Hindu Kush moutains, but rather from somewhere indica naturally grows. speculations say it's from Vietnam, since Afghanistan traded ALL sorts of seeds through means of the silk road in 1950-1970.

hahahah maybe anyone knows the truth about where "420" came from???

OG kush is an indica indica couldn't come from Afghanistan Original Kush didn't even originate in the Kush mountains. the kush passed around these days was a random seed found by "Bubba" when he bought a random bag of weed in America and he claimed it was the Original Kush. is this true? your guess is good as mine.

hahahah maybe all over the place bro, OG can be used in soooooooo many ways. clothing brands, refering to elders in hiphop community, general slang in most forms suggest "original". just researching the meaning of "original" in the cannabis industry will actually point out that the strain is not the original, it's a cross, even though the masses will refer to it as the "Original Kush". It was indeed grown by the ocean, though. but the masses will argue that we shouldn't call it that.

what if you click on the link that sais "watch on youtube" will try another way in the meantime

just read a few things here and there, I can definitly say that a big number of the people agree that it does NOT stand for Ocean Grown and the fact that people say that makes some people butthurt. especialy this guy... (9.20) what this guy also says is that the Bubba story also carries a whole lot of mystery to it. Here's that guy from your post, Josh D, giving some background info on it. So now I wana know this, if OG stands for original we have to ask ourselves, was this strain the original Kush? No, it wasn't. It was a cross with the "original" Kush, that really might not even have been the original Kush, cause of the story Bubba told. You think that Bubba really got a random bag of weed and grew out the bag seed from it and that happened to be THE KUSH? so the deeper I dig into that story, with my common sense wide open, the more the story falls apart. like I said, unbaised research. now, the question that remains, was the strain grown by the ocean? Yes, indeed it was. The new cross between the "so to speak" Hindu Kush and whatever they happened to cross it with, WAS grown by the ocean. as stated many times in many of these articles and links above. the more believable story is the Silk Road story where soldiers from Afghanistan and Vietnam where trading seeds around 1950 to 1960 and they got the seeds and from there US soldiers brought it over from Vienam during the Vietnam war that ended in 1970. In bulk. It got bred around and morphology caused a phenotype that gained popularity between the masses on the West Coast. Who then started refering to it as the OG as in "original" like the guy said in the first video. But what he also, very clearly states, is that its genealogy cannot be traced, making it very clear that it is indeed NOT the original. but I am not saying I am agreeing with the dude, because what it very well was, was grown by the ocean, and like you yourself said, a strain gains it's name by the region it was grown or breeder or whatever. If I am a breeder I can call my strain whatever I like. I will say this though, when I started this thread I was unaware of the Bubba story, but now that I've heard it I don't agree with it being called Original Kush, if it's a cross anyway, even if that's what it stood for. Definitly doesn't mean Ocean Grown either.

few sentences later brother, I will provide a looksee at all the info you posted and go look into it even further and it will be unbiased research. still doesn't add up in my mind, but could be because of my preconception at the end of the day the discussion is so insignificant I couldn't care less what it really means, but thought it to be interesting discussion nonetheless to me this one still falls under fiction, probably always will, typically because there's 100 meanings for the word and not only in the cannabis industry.... any other topics?

can't have 100 originals, but very easy to have 100 ocean grown strains.

if OG was soooooo specific to that one genetic that can only be passed down by cut, how did OG land it's spot in the name pool for genetics? and so many genetics at that? easy answer, it's not.