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where is this from? how is this so very little known? that area seems dry man, even the air. compared to when you move over to the side of asia, Burma is a literal jungle. if I may ask, what makes you believe soooo strong that it couldn't have come from Vietnam, even regarding the fact that they traded in seeds for over 20 years in the 50's to 60's. just think about it... cannabis was highly sought after, people wanted to trade this and move the stuff around. there was landraces in that area, why wouldn't they trade it?
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these mountains?? the wettests it gets is the flash flood when the ice melts here's a map to show rivers, dams and well everything looks like minimal rivers and dams, most water and glaciers are on the side of the Karakoram Mountain range, which is not part of the Hindu Kush Mountain range. so I don't think they would've called it Hindu Kush if it came from somewhere next to Hindu Kush. but who knows, not me....
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The name Kush picked up, because it was popularised from the Kush Mountains man. but it was indica. meaning it HAD to travel there. if it traveled from another dry area, wouldn't it have been more sativa? I mean, like you said, Kush is pure Indica. how does this happen?
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Yeah, it seems for the most part, all the stories are about the Waldos. just not sure if the name stuck because of the formal political gathering regarding cannabis legislations, or just the random group of people that would come around every 4.20 at 4:20 to 420 all together hahah I guess not as much a myth to that one, but still a nice topic
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are you saying that the pure indica strain first grew in the Afghani mountains, there is no single way that it could've travled there? remember Indica doesn't come from dry areas
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so why this day?
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yeah, best charas in the world come from that region. what I am saying though is you don't get indica genealogy in the desert. the fact that it's a pure indica idicates that it's not originally from the Hindu Kush moutains, but rather from somewhere indica naturally grows. speculations say it's from Vietnam, since Afghanistan traded ALL sorts of seeds through means of the silk road in 1950-1970.
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hahahah maybe anyone knows the truth about where "420" came from???
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OG kush is an indica indica couldn't come from Afghanistan Original Kush didn't even originate in the Kush mountains. the kush passed around these days was a random seed found by "Bubba" when he bought a random bag of weed in America and he claimed it was the Original Kush. is this true? your guess is good as mine.
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hahahah maybe all over the place bro, OG can be used in soooooooo many ways. clothing brands, refering to elders in hiphop community, general slang in most forms suggest "original". just researching the meaning of "original" in the cannabis industry will actually point out that the strain is not the original, it's a cross, even though the masses will refer to it as the "Original Kush". It was indeed grown by the ocean, though. but the masses will argue that we shouldn't call it that.
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what if you click on the link that sais "watch on youtube" will try another way in the meantime
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just read a few things here and there, I can definitly say that a big number of the people agree that it does NOT stand for Ocean Grown and the fact that people say that makes some people butthurt. especialy this guy... (9.20) what this guy also says is that the Bubba story also carries a whole lot of mystery to it. Here's that guy from your post, Josh D, giving some background info on it. So now I wana know this, if OG stands for original we have to ask ourselves, was this strain the original Kush? No, it wasn't. It was a cross with the "original" Kush, that really might not even have been the original Kush, cause of the story Bubba told. You think that Bubba really got a random bag of weed and grew out the bag seed from it and that happened to be THE KUSH? so the deeper I dig into that story, with my common sense wide open, the more the story falls apart. like I said, unbaised research. now, the question that remains, was the strain grown by the ocean? Yes, indeed it was. The new cross between the "so to speak" Hindu Kush and whatever they happened to cross it with, WAS grown by the ocean. as stated many times in many of these articles and links above. the more believable story is the Silk Road story where soldiers from Afghanistan and Vietnam where trading seeds around 1950 to 1960 and they got the seeds and from there US soldiers brought it over from Vienam during the Vietnam war that ended in 1970. In bulk. It got bred around and morphology caused a phenotype that gained popularity between the masses on the West Coast. Who then started refering to it as the OG as in "original" like the guy said in the first video. But what he also, very clearly states, is that its genealogy cannot be traced, making it very clear that it is indeed NOT the original. but I am not saying I am agreeing with the dude, because what it very well was, was grown by the ocean, and like you yourself said, a strain gains it's name by the region it was grown or breeder or whatever. If I am a breeder I can call my strain whatever I like. I will say this though, when I started this thread I was unaware of the Bubba story, but now that I've heard it I don't agree with it being called Original Kush, if it's a cross anyway, even if that's what it stood for. Definitly doesn't mean Ocean Grown either.
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few sentences later brother, I will provide a looksee at all the info you posted and go look into it even further and it will be unbiased research. still doesn't add up in my mind, but could be because of my preconception at the end of the day the discussion is so insignificant I couldn't care less what it really means, but thought it to be interesting discussion nonetheless to me this one still falls under fiction, probably always will, typically because there's 100 meanings for the word and not only in the cannabis industry.... any other topics?
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can't have 100 originals, but very easy to have 100 ocean grown strains.
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if OG was soooooo specific to that one genetic that can only be passed down by cut, how did OG land it's spot in the name pool for genetics? and so many genetics at that? easy answer, it's not.
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but he was part of the original crew, wasn't he?
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so he started something that was 100% not what he said it was? cool
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now it isn't a kush either? so it's neither OG nor is it Kush???? god damn.... does this guy not just wana rewrite the whole dictionary? how does it get called OG Kush if he is the one who started it, but then it isn't even OG or Kush?????????? think about this for a second man... does this dude know the rest of the world exists and that literally EVERYONE (even before his claims) calls it OG kush..... this story falls apart the more info comes out
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there are threads on the internet that go into depth about how there is only one god too
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yeah, I read the link you gave, not really agreeing with it though hahah
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What part of Cali you grew up in? I was in santa cruz a while ago doing a survival outpost. Heard the term in the 1 year I was there brother....
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In the book I read that discussed the topic it mentioned that the fact that not many cannabis plants love coastal conditions, this term was used to make classification easier, to add to the names of strains that are coastal tolerant. which makes a ton of sense.
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my bad there, I thought you said they brought it from LA to Cali. but yeah, no.... doesn't add up to me that a guy who claims to be a OG specialist could even say that the strain that's grown by the ocean and is reffered to as OG is not called Ocean Grown. if that is to be true, it would make even less sense to me
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"Ocean Grown" started in California. Los Angeles is in California. think about this, a strain grown by the ocean and some dude comes out saying "OG" doesn't stand for ocean grown. that's really backwards....... So you're telling me, a dude who was part of the start of the term Ocean Grown, comes out years later saying that's not what it actually means? great... even if the strain really WAS ocean grown.... California. right by the ocean.......... yeah.... anyway, not gona make or break anything or anyone, just a random topic of discussion. like I said earlier, one can look at it as "spaghetti" if that's what makes you happy.
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he didn't even make the OG strain he just farmed it