Naughty.Psychonaut

Welcome Harry

hell yeah bro I think breeding is the goal for a lot of us. just keep the seeds in a bag, they don't take up much space hahah write on the bag "No Name Backyard Bushbreed 2023" then just play around and do whatever you wana. I think a lot of times there's a huge gap in the conversations on these forums, cause people only say like one or two sentences and leave a lot of room for wondering and interpretation, which is giving the benefit of the doubt to the masses and can be seen as a good thing, but people generally just say what they would do, not what you should do. I am still learning how to grow and reaching out for a lot of information a lot of the time, but mostly end up doing something completely different than what most people are telling me. I said it before, the information circulating a group of experienced growers' conversation is not the same information new growers should be talking about. an experienced grower with look at those seeds and see nothing, but to someone who wants to learn how to grow they're fucking gold dude. with all that said, since being on this forum and a talking to a lot of growers it becomes clearer how useless a bush breed is, this is usually what they call "bag seed". when you buy some weed in a bag and there's seeds in it, we talking bout those seeds. I'll post a video below that kinda scratches the surface of breeding, but basically when people do selective breeding for desired traits it's quite a project. can be short term but it can very easily be long term if you really wana end up with something good. It's very very easy to get a first batch of seeds from any situation, but once you start to want to lock in traits and working towards a plant that gives you all seeds that will mostly look alike when grown out, then you gotta look at genetics and how they work. genetics will probably always be the most intetesting and never ending rabbit hole here's another good one aaaand another one

you going to throw them away? I'd say concider it a blessing from the ganja gods, you won't get better seed than those from a rasta anyway, probably same kind of stuff. saves you effort of going there to get more seeds. I see you mention somwhere you going to get seeds from a rasta? Just keep these, for someone that wants to learn about growing these are golden. grow them out but don't count too much on yield being anything good. even if you take 9 seeds, divide them 3 - 3 - 3. then you use one method of popping on one batch, a different method on others and another method on last 3. those that do the best you carry through. the stunted ones you see if you can use what we have taught you by now to see if you can diagnose problems and recover from them and go about learning how to prevent these problems in future. I mean, you can throw it all away, then do like most new kids on the block - pay a shit load of money for danks seeds just to be discouraged from growing, because of the underperformance of the seed and "it's sooo hard" or whatever the reason... we call these school fees, a lot of people gotta pay them cause of the good old saying "if you don't wana listen you must feel" Good genetics will the big game changer for most growers, but on the other hand, not everyone that knows how to water a plant will know what exactly to do with good genetics.

Oh man yeah she got knocked up hey. I had some semi-fire genetics doing their thing outdoors cause I didn't wana occupy my tents with those plants. was outside for about 3 weeks and I started noticing the seeds. at first I was also quite excited, cause I didn't know much about breeding of the plant back then. collected the seeds as I was smoking the buds. gave a bunch of seeds to a friend, he grew out 2 plants both turned out to be female and one was atleast smokable. other one I wouldn't even call cannabis, buds looked like ditch weed from the 70's, 99% stems and leaves. not smokable at all. if it was burnt it'll smell like someone got their hair caught on fire scratched it up to doing something wrong cause we both still learning how to grow at the time. grew out between 10 to 15 plants before I dumped all the rest of the seeds on the compost. literally each and every plant was just a load of hot nasty shit off a plant that had good genetics itself... so yeah, I would say if you got seeds off a plant that doesn't at least have good genetics itself then it's more of a headache than anything else. in your situation, I would call it a win though, because you could do with some free seeds hahah like Weskush said, play around dude pop them all, but don't invest too much in them. Test soils, test watering regimes, test environment, torture test, find the best spot around the house, fiddle with one plant, make a bonzai out of another plant... do all these things that'll add to the relationship you got with the plant. if you loose a plant due to your intervention at least you not loosing a plant you pay an arm and a leg for. all you wana see is a healthy thriving prolific vegging plant, you see males, you pull. you see females let them do their thing and see if you can carry the plant through till the end even if the yield is straight dogshit, now you can copy what you did with slight changes with a good genetic seed or clone one of us will provide you with and you'll be golden.

before and after last clean up, raised the light a little

I still gotta sort out my drying situation, got a dryrack but also only used it a couple times. I feel the surface where the buds lay and it feels stick, so I think trichomes do run off when using it and then the deforming buds thing. The wendy my tents are in is a long split compartment wendy, equal space on both sides, my grow side is insulated and other side is just normal. I hand in there, before chop I remove only the biggest of fan leaves, I try to remove as little as possible to slow the drying down and also don't use a fan. RH is not stable on that side of the wendy though, flux between 30 and 70%. Gotta sort that out, but untill now it'a served me good. I heard a Canadian dude say "that's the only time you aim for a perfect 666, that's 60%RH 60°F and 16days" lol that's not really 666 but every number has a 6 in it 60°F = 15/16°C hahah fucking hell those Canadians makes sense that you'll need 16 days then, but probably minimal terp loss.

BL - Platinum Silk - Inhouse Genetics BR - Garlic Sherbet - Inhouse Genetics FR - Grape Diamonds - Ethos Genetics FL - Peanut Butter Breath - Thug Pug Genetics 12/12 from tomorrow

@West Coast Vaper Brother, I feel you. You know, my passion is actually rare plant collecting and mushroom growing and I am on a few different "private" groups some not so private, and I honestly have to say the cannabis community is the shittiest to navigate in terms of sharing helpful knowledge. I say that with all the respect in the world. Sometimes you don't need to back and forth with someone cause you know what you know. I feel there's a lot.of ego in this community, because of its background alot of people invested in cannabis are just low lives. People with big aspirations, but no motivation. People that dream of being called "the King of Cannabis" without getting their hands too dirty. I have even had people from the cannabis community tell me how to do things they clearly have abosultely no clue about, but just because they once grew a cannabis seed till it had 3 sets of new leaves and now they hang out at every cannabis event and wear clothes with a cannabis leaf on it, that gives them the title as master grower of all things plant and nature related. The all talk, no show. I might be sugar coating a little, but sadly I even know a guy like this so I know I am not far off the truth. First thing he told me was that he is "a grower". Asked to see his plants. Don't have any at the moment... Big shocker. Start talking growing, I give subtle advice, he laughs and claims I can't tell him anything about growing, I give him a clone, it dies within a month. We don't talk much anymore. We need to remind ourselves more often to not sink to that level, just keep pumping the good stuff and rather than trying to help stupid people, laugh at them.

aaaah thanks man

yes I was typing out an answer to his question here as clear as I possibly could I was going short form but thought wait, get 50 growers in a room ask them "how does one grow" you'll get 50 different answers. so there wasn't a "Do this" or "do that" answer. I rather go full deep explanation. there is mos a big difference in hydro and living soil if I look at his reaction here to my previous answer, it seems it's what the man was looking for.

Rather make the mistake with organic and learn from the mistake and try to get over to the organic side than to try and force mix synthetic and organic and force things to work. the problem with synthetics isn't that it doesn't work, neither does it make the plant worse for you to consume. the problem with synthetics is it defeats the purpose of "life" which is your main focus when growing in living soil. (organic soil should be alive, if not you leaning towards inert and shouldn't be growing in soil anyway) keep things alive. then you'll notice how little we talk about when we say less is more. you gona be giving almost no nutes. now to answer your question here, the only nutrient that fluctuates is the Bloom, yeah. all the rest you keep at 1ml/L straight through. obviously unless you see burnt tips like I said before, then you give just clean water 2 or 3 times in a row and then back to feed. Ok, let me start with this. you buy soil loaded with nutrients then you plant into the soil, most important thing here is microbes. (basically always most important when talking organic). Once transplant you use clean water (dechloronated if you can) and either add a bunch of microbes to your water or mix into soil when planting. The dechlorinated part is most important right now, because you're inoculating microbes and chlorine and chloramine kills off microbes like no ones business, that's why it's in the tap water in the first place. (chlorine compounds escape water in the form of a gas, flouride you have to remove with a 3phase filter. once your microbes are thriving in the amount of chlorine is too little to bother it, plus cannabis plants also use the chlorine as a micro nutrient so using dechlorinated water all the time also isn't the best, but needed with inoculation. From here on you literally just give clean tap water untill you either see signs of deficiency then start with the biobizz stuff like explained. Every grower gona have their own watering regime, though there is a sweet spot for every different media and and and.... Media that dries out faster will need more frequent watering and vice versa, also depending on environmental conditions, my plants dry out faster in summer than winter, so my watering changes. it's never a set in stone once off one style across the board, it's more of a build a relationship with the soil and maintain the sweet spot. inert media = roots should never ever dry or you encourage salt build up and root damage. soil growers = maintain between 30 - 70% moisture. keeping it at 50% is a little risky, cause then you encourage root rot. it's important for soil to dry out to a certain extent so the roots can get a moment to take in some oxygen. Oxygen is SUPER important to your roots and people really over look this since the roots are underground and what not, like they say out of sight out of mind, but that's again ignorance. Also, as the knife cuts both ways, other side is that leaving your soil above 50% moisture for too long will obviously also encourage root rot and the root zone will become favourable to all kinds of pathogens. Here is what I do, I got my plants in 30L material pots, I water them every single night. Each pot gets minimum 300ml and maximum 500ml depening on if the leaves are praying or drooping, weather, what I did before, how much the plant is asking for at that moment. I keep a 3 to 5cm thick alfalfa layer as mulch so the top soil doesn't dry out, cause as you'd imagine 300 to 500ml doesn't settle too deep in the 30L pot, but giving that much every single night will keep the pot in that 30 to 70% moisture flux. I water it goes up to around 70% next night before I water again it'll be around 30%.... that's the sweet spot for me here where I am at and with my environmental conditions. may be different situation for you.

always good to also add a bunch of microbial life after any kind of flush as they're waterbourne aswell as soilbourne, not only the chemicals kill them, you also remove a lot of them by just the flush, but I mean if you have been using synthetic nutes in soil you propbably don't have a lot of microbial activity going on anyway. and if you continue to use synthetic nutes in soil this will continue to happen. It's like oil and water, the two don't mix.

The feeding charts fall more under the marketing scheme of getting you to use more of their product just so you end up buying more of the product. Just remember, as an organic grower you have a branding iron burn the following onto your brain - "Less Is More". - feeding a healthy plant wont make it healthier or grow faster, usually it just does more damage. This is only for people who are running the biobizz schedule, a lot of people using super soil or ammended soil can't really use these steps as it might cause more problems than anything. First off, you skipped over the most important part of all the biobizz products- Fishmix, where is your Fishmix brother? Second, you need so little silica that the amount in the soil is perfectly fine. silica addatives is more for inert media growers. this is all you need. Veg: Fish 1ml/L every watering, if you see burnt tips skip on next 2 or 3 feeds, just give clean water then back to 1m/L fish. You can give Grow 1ml/L once every 2 weeks as at this point you just want some sugars to keep the microbes happy. you can smell the grow, it's sweet, that's the beetroot extract, but don't just give grow the whole time. Flower: (not flour ) Week 1 you give 1ml Bloom to start, then you switch from giving Fish each time to giving Grow each time, and Fish only once every 2 weeks as the fish is more N focussed and you're not vegging anymore, (this is the same as the old school golden rule of cutting on N and giving molasses during flower, the sugars does NOT make the weed taste better that's 100%, but the sugars keep the microbes thriving which then gives you better weed overall). now you carry on like this, each week increasing the bloom ml/L till week 5 of flower then you keep it at 5ml/L till you ready to harvest, but then you don't harvest, you just put the nutes away, because like they say "when you think the plant is ready, give it another week" and you use this "extra week" to give just clean water. - not flush - just water as you normally would, but with clean water. during this week you check trichomes every day. I usually harvest around 10,20% amber as during the first week of drying a lot of chemiclas shift around in the plant and when drying is done you sitting at about 50%. where as when you wait till 50% before harvest you gona end up with 80% amber and that's basically sleeping medicine.

thc decarbs when spent 5 to 10min at around 100°C, which is also boiling point for water, making the psychoactive compounds orally active, you think the milk is still needed aswell? it would help to dissolve the thc for sure, but I was thinking the heat and duration will already do the thing.

This is all true though I wasn't really saying one cannot grow with synthetics, it's been proven and done for many many many years, infact when you sit at the table with big time farmers and talk "conventional farming" you're talking about synthetic nutes. that's how much people use synthetic nutes. the food you eat was grown with synthetic nutes.. there are more synthetic nutrient growers than organic. I also didn't even touch on any effect it has on the body once you consume any product that's grown with synthetic nutes, though this is a problem aswell and the ignorance around marketing synthetic nutes as "the plant breaks it down the same way as orgaincs" is getting older than sliced bread. It's not the talk of the town anymore, it's nothing new. the big problem is the "conventional" part. it shouldn't be conventional. It literally kills microbes. There is no arguing that and what is EVERYTHING made of? Microbes. Everything comes down to microbes man, everything depends on it. It starts with the sourcing, extracting and manufacturing of the synthetic nutes that's not needed in the first place that's got a huge impact on our planet long before you pay R100 for distilled water with R0.01 worth of synthetics in, long before you get your hands on the final product it's already done so much damage just to get it to you. Huge machinery, mining, factories, packaging, transport and everything surrounding all that and all that has to go into the end product. I just feel it's 2023 man, we collectively as a planet went from full organics to "conventional farming", if a person argues that it's impossible to make the change back then I don't know what to say to that person. I'll just respectfully stop talking. Organics is detremental to this industry, cause once you go full organic you stop using nutes, even the "organic" lables. you literally go over to giving tap water and learning how to use your waste as nutrients. And if the argument is that not everyone has time, that is such ignorance, cause doing anything hydro related takes at least twice as long if not longer and the headaches surrounding the finer detail such as ph and that shit. I don't get it, I don't find it "cool" anymore. It was when it was new, but even the hype around how it's so much better than organics, when it really isn't, it was mostly just bias. eh.... I'm just over synthetics. Trust me my brother, watch the documentary, you'll understand where I am coming from. I've only scratched the surface here It's got nothing to do with how the plant uses the stuff.

What's your feel on the size and amount of plant in that NFT setup? I am assuming all 36 plants go on the 3 tube system, if so you going to keep those 36 plants relatively small? I am not thinking in terms of grow space, but rather root space. Personally, I don't mess with hydro, because of my experience with it. I notice is the gutter system may not support big root systems, this is why dutch buckets, DWC, Autopots, Rockwool bricks flood and drain tables, Ebb and flow systems all became a big thing in hydro cannabis growing. NFT is really only for a bunch of small plants such as all the FMCG crops. works nice in vertical farming setups where a bunch of small plants are grown and crop is rotated monthly. Even when growing stuff like spinach and other leafy greens, all tiny plants, if ones root system gets a teetsy bit bigger than the others then the whole NFT flow gets messed up. If the first plant sucks up too many nutes the rest don't get any..... NFT systems are such a headache brother, and when growing cannabis you want a biiiiig thiiiiiick healthy root system. when looking into hydro growers you'll notice that they always show off their roots, cause that's the important bit. As always, the knife cuts both ways. potentially what you could do is keep the light on 12/12, never veg, put clones in and flower them all right away. would give less root related problems. otherwise, looking good man looks like you got a big plan and I am excited to see how this plays out.

You know about "yerba mate" tea? The healthiest drink on the planet. wonder how it'll work/taste with cannabis. One can get quite buzzed off drinking just everyday herbs and spices as a tea and it's got crazy antioxidant properties, flushes the body. drinking cannabis the mate way will probably give the feeling of being on strong edibles. willing to give this a try myself hahah this is mate

when can we collectively start boycotting synthetic nutrients???? here is my motivation I remember trying to explain this in 2019 and people got so damn butt hurt when I said I strongly believe synthetic nutes just shouldn't exist. Personally I hate the stuff with a burning passion and I've got good reason to.

organics you build a biosphere over time, using synthetic nutes in living soil is counterintuitive as the most important part of living soil is the life in it and synthetic nutrients are all harmful to microbes. plus you never flush living soil, that's the point. if you flush is you turned it somewhat inert and gotta start rebuilding, though if you gona keep using salts you gona get salt build up and root zone problems such as nutrient lockout. if you need to flush and keep flushing it's cause soil and coco/water holds onto things differently and if you flush the soil enough you might aswell be growing in coco anyway. only difference is there will be less root stress in coco with synthetics. soil + synthetics = asking for trouble and flushing will prolong the problem. it's either or with those. don't mix grow style. to the people using synthetic nutes in living soil, no bad rep no bad energy no funny business no back and forth none of that childish shit, but rather don't educate others when one doesn't really understand the whole thing clearly. we can all help eachother and I hope I don't rub anyone the wrong way, I hope to be constructive. take some time, sit back, roll a few fatties and watch this.

Yeah man I like to make that fire burn briiiiiiiiight!!!! I could go on for days and days and days about all this, but really why I feel the way I do is because I have a family member sitting at a desk at a big agricultural based firm, they deal a lot with monitoring the impact of the use of these "conventional" fertilizers. and to be honest, it's sad that when we say "conventional" we refer to synthetic fertilizers. It's alarming that there are still farmers out there who'll turn a blind eye to this. Aren't farmers supposed to be the good guys? They certainly carry that badge proudly and arrogantly. It's 2023 now, no more need to get stuck in old ways, the way forward is getting away from creating a demand for synthetic fertilizers.

When you say reservoir, do you keep mixed nutrients for longer than 24hr? like hydroponics?

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orgasoilux - every bag is a little different. I've heard reports of plants toasting in that soil, but lately it's been more positive. you can use clean water till first sign of deficiency. I wouldn't put a seedling directly in orgasoilux, I'll pop it in sphagnum or rockwool then move over to orgasoilux when they're just a bit bigger than the plants in your photos. also use the orgasoilux just as it is, don't add stuff, it's already fully loaded. only thing you can use is a healthy dose of microbes when transplanting and that's it. clean water, you'll be able to get the plant to above your knees or "ready to flower" size on just water and the nutrients in the soil. first time you feed will be before flowering so you'll wana go for Biobizz fish mix at that point and when you flip over to flower you obviously gona start giving bloom nutes, but switch the Fish out for the Grow, as the Grow has more sugar for the microbes and you want less N at that point and more P and K. when reamending the Orgasoilux I would recommend emptying all your pots into a 100L bin or pot, dump 10L of jamies elemental blend in there, work it through, water it, let it stand for about a month to two months, then you got yourself a super soil there. that elemental blend is fucking