TheUltimateNoob

Sup bro [emoji1308] And thank you [emoji1374] I hope more people come across it so it can be shared, it will definitely help some noobs. I agree, cannabis training is very subjective and you have to choose one that best fits your grow space and schedule. I went with an 8 Cola mainline as well my last grow and I'm planning to switch back to it after I harvest my current grow. It creates the most uniform tree and a really nice, even canopy. I recently ran 2 strains in my tent this grow and treated them exactly the same, yet I still had 1 tree hermie on me... It's worth noting that the hermie didn't respond as well to the HST than the other tree, so my suggestion would be to adapt your training to your plant. If they haven't bounced back yet, give them some time before you butcher them again [emoji23]. Not every strain will react the same to stress and its pretty easy to fuck one tree up without damaging the rest. It's better to have a slightly uneven canopy rather than missing out on harvesting one entire plant due to stressing out too much with the HST. With my Blue Dream, I went for a Flux/Mainline with 8 colas and she tuned out gorgeous. Veg was complete in 6 weeks and after the 8-9 week flower, the tree netted me 204g. The method saved me about a week of veg vs regular mainlining. I can send you a link or some pics if you're interested. I know it's a bit disappointing not being able to create the canopy that you aimed for and train the plants according to schedule, but I feel that you will risk losing a couple of your trees if you disregard how they're responding to the HST and continue anyway. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Agreed Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

I agree, in time I'll do it. Just saving up to upgrade my equipment.

Haha, thanks bro I appreciate it. I was quite surprised myself... I'm definitely gonna try the method again once I finish up what's in the tent right now. All the buds came to 204g... There was some popcorn (very little) and a few test nugs that came off a few days prior to harvest but I didn't weigh it. My goal is to get 500g out of a 1.2m x 0.6m tent by year end. I feel I can do it.

If you're monitoring ppms, these are the ranges I use Veg: 400-600ppm (week 1-400, week 2-500, week 3 onward-600) Flower: 600-800ppm (week 1-600, week 2-700, week 3-800, week 4 onward-700) I do feed my seedlings but I'm not going to mention it as there are many who advise against it and it's super easy to do damage to them when they're that young. Don't forget to make sure you pH is within acceptable range for the grow medium you're using. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Mainline time.. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Unfortunately not yet bro. A bit of a bummer, but I'm sure 420sa will sort it out once Cannabist is back so I'm not stressing too much. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Greetings 420 Fam. I've decided to put this thread together for the newbies to the indoor growing scene and anyone else that it may help. Anyway, it's for everyone to have a look at and hopefully it will give them a little bit of guidance when it comes to choosing the method of training that they want to use on their cannabis tree. Honestly, I wish someone broke it down for me when I started as it would've saved me a few months of experimenting by myself and accidentally coming across new methods somewhere random to try out. Anyway, here goes; Okay, so there's a lot to consider when you're aiming to increase your yield while not outgrowing the space you have available... Let's start with the simple stuff. My suggestion would be to research a bit on what you read here first before committing fully. Here's what you need to consider; - Acquiring good genetics (high yielding plant). Your bagseed flowers may look awesome, but most of the time it's genetics are a big twisted mess and stable genetics will yield you more bud per/m2. - Setting up a hydroponic system will get you a faster growth rate, but not necessarily a higher yield (although the time taken to get it would be shorter by a week or 2). - If you're using soil, you need a well mixed grow medium with enough drainage to ensure proper oxygen concentration in the root zone. - Use a good nutrient line if you aren't using living soil (it doesn't have to be expensive, it just has to work well). - Make sure your space isn't too big for your light (you may end up with airy, smaller buds or just a really slow growth rate if you ignore your limits here). - Ensure your plants get enough direct airflow to develop healthy, strong stems and so they receive ample fresh air. If you've considered of all of that, then you don't have much else to decide. LST works well, but it takes a lot of patience and when using it even with FIMing, but it isn't the most effective. This is because you still have to, in a way, let the plant grow normally and constantly train it to fit your space FIMing your tree will just give you more branches to train. The next 2 methods I'm going to mention are ways of making the plant grow into your space and it sort of has a predefined shape, which requires minimal training and even less once you decide to flower. Mainlining a tree requires less patience, and a bit of confidence when using this method because you will have to use some heavy HST with LST. I've used a slight variation of this on my last grow. I came out with about 204g of top shelf bud off a single tree (in a 70cm x 70cm tent). "Quadlining" has been coming up more recently and I've done this on a Microgrow I had running a while ago. You don't remove as much plant material as the previous method but the results are pretty similar. It requires slightly less time than Mainlining but also works well on maximizing yield... I was able to get 40g from 1sq ft off a single, small tree. Both these methods were effective at creating an even canopy with minimal LST and without the need of a net/trellis, but they do involve HST which means you will have recovery periods that add to your total length of the grow. I haven't tried any other methods, but from my understanding; ScrOG is one of the most effective at getting a maximum yield as this is a more controlled way of creating an even canopy and involves using a rigid screen through which you weave the tree as it grows. This makes maximum use of your space as you can decide what size grid to use and when you think its packed enough to flower. This method comes at the cost of a long veg time and regular maintenance, due to having to check which tops are growing pass the others and getting others in optimal positions. I'm not sure what other yield boosting techniques are commonly used but IMO; I think you're better off running your trees with the mainlining technique. Do some searching on Google to see how each of the methods work and see which one you'd feel comfortable doing. Everyone has their own preference I know this isn't a complete, thorough guide or like a how-to, but I hope it helps some of you. Feel free to also share the link with anyone that has a yield boosting question that can be answered by this post. If you're gonna add information to this thread, all I ask is that you please be sure of the methods you're posting. I've tried different methods and I've compiled this from my own experience. Peace [emoji1308] Happy Growing Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

#AnotherOne Welcome aboard bro, hope you enjoy your membership here. We're dope as tits. Lol Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Looks like it could go a couple more weeks honestly... Closeups would help a bit Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Haha nah bro, I don't spend much there, just my nutes and soil whenever I need. I spotted the stickers on the shelf and when I asked how much they were, he just gave me a bunch for free. I always try to make convo about growing with the guys there and ask about what new products they're getting. They seem to appreciate the interest in the company. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Haha, I should really put this into a separate thread for all the newcomers, now that I'm reading it again. Edit: I'll have a dry weight of my quadlined tree in about 6 weeks to compare to the mainlined one. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

No problem bro, I'm glad to help. Okay so here goes... Once you've considered of all that I've mentioned before , then you don't have much else to decide. LST works well, but it takes a lot of patience... Even when using it even with FIMing, it isn't the most effective. This is because you still have to, in a way, let the plant grow normally and constantly train it to fit your space FIMing your tree will just give you more branches to train. The next 2 methods I'm going to mention are ways of making the plant grow into your space, which requires minimal training and even less once you flip to flower. Mainlining a tree requires less patience, and a bit more confidence when using this method because you will have to use some heavy HST with LST. I've used a slight variation of this on my last grow. I came out with about 204g of top shelf bud off a single tree (in a 70cm x 70cm tent). "Quadlining" has been coming up more recently and I've done this on a Microgrow I had running a while ago. You don't remove as much plant material as the previous method but the results are pretty similar. It requires slightly less time than Mainlining but also works well on maximizing yield... I was able to get 40g from 1sq ft off a single, small tree. This method doesn't produce as uniform buds as mainlining but it's still worth trying. My Inzane tree is quadlined... I'm going back to mainlining from the next grow. Both these methods were effective at creating an even canopy with minimal LST and without the need of a net/trellis, but they do involve HST which means you will have recovery periods that add to your total length of the grow. Overall about a week extra veg. I haven't tried any other methods, but from my understanding; ScrOG is one of the most effective at getting a maximum yield as this is a more controlled way of creating an even canopy and involves using a rigid screen through which you weave the tree as it grows. This makes maximum use of your space as you can decide what size grid to use and when you think its packed enough to flower. This method comes at the cost of a long veg time and regular maintenance, due to having to check which tops are growing pass the others and getting others in optimal positions. This is a bit impractical though once it gets to larger spaces. I'm not sure what other yield boosting techniques are commonly used but IMO; I think you're better off running your trees with the mainlining technique. Do some searching on Google to see how each of the methods work and how the trees grow, then see which one you'd feel comfortable doing. Everyone has their own preference but from my experience, mainlining is the way. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Okay, so there's a lot to consider when you're aiming to increase your yield, even when growing SOG style. My suggestion would be to research a bit first before committing fully. But here are a few things to look at. - Good genetics (high yielding plant) - Hydroponics will get you a faster growth rate, but not necessarily a higher yield (although the time taken to get it would be shorter by a week or 2) - If you're using soil, you need a well mixed grow medium with enough drainage - Use a good nutrient line if you aren't using living soil (it doesn't have to be expensive, it just has to work well) - Make sure your space isn't too big for your light (you may end up with airy, smaller buds or just a really slow growth rate if you ignore your limits here) - Ensure your plants get enough direct airflow to develop healthy, strong stems and they receive ample fresh air. I have more advice on training but you can ask if you're going to need it. Generally people don't train nowhere near as heavy in SOG Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Lmao, my thoughts exactly. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Greetings Fam. There isn't much happening in the tent but the buds have started to pack on some weight. I fed them a day or 2 ago and rigged together a magnetic stirrer to put into the new CO2 generator bottle, I hooked it up to the light timer. This way it increases CO2 production during the light cycle by lightly stirring the solution and stops once the lights go out. As a separate project, I made a wing reflector out of a can and mounted 2 HID LED car headlights on it. I have it in a Microgrow box that I'll reveal to you guys in a separate thread. The entire system is 12V and runs off a PC power supply. Anyway, here are some pictures of what the Inzane tree looks like right now. The Frost is real, lol

The Hipargero HG800 bro

Seems a bit dodgy honestly. They even ask to send the bud in jars... For those living in other provinces, how would the logistics even work. I wanted to enter, but it just seems a bit off. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Would be interesting if Sannabis doesn't catch. I'm in if it becomes a reality. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Nice bud bro! I agree with CreX. It was also nice seeing the different builds you did with your lights. I'm planning to order a fixture for a friend of mine once she gets the rest of stuff. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Welcome and Happy Growing. Share with us the details, would be nice to help get you a good start. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

[emoji23][emoji23] Damn now I'm gonna be doing it too. I enjoyed the movies Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Anyone thinking of entering though? On the real Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Thanks for sharing bro Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Lol I missed it as well, shit... Congrats bro!@Ill_Evan Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk