Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Having a look now boet Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Loving this mars hydro light. Nice information regarding par rating. Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The thing is,or what im thinking now is..the actual plug.. Its a uk standard 3 prong plug..yah i know i can snip it off and just pop a s.a plug on but is that wise..holla at me guys + narnia you went quiet..probably having a toke Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jland Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yeah some good gear on there and prices ain't bad! Just buy your self a travel plug adaptor (R27.00), Remember if the light fails in the first week and you got a snipped plug all guarantee/warranty will fall away.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Oh yes good looking out bro..you see why i need my fellow growers..would of messed that one up..where do i purchase a travel plug..never heard of it boet Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jland Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hahaha all good bro ✌ You learn these things, sometimes the hard way lol! Any hardware store, supermarket, Elec shop. You see the around more often now days. I would post a pic quick but that is a task on its own at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 No problem ill see what hardware places i can visit tomorrow. Thanks again boet Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jland Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 No probs bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Any guys on this forum from the port of Elizabeth? Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narnia Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Eish sorry Jland[/member] your monster cropping thread has been jacked. @DoubleR perhaps make a new thread if you're looking for more info; Mars and [most of] the rest use those Epistar diodes. Regardless of what brand it is, it is essentially the same fixture. Potentially different drivers, but the drive currents are likely similar. Most of their stats can be thrown away, perhaps there are some with legitimate data, but it's unlikely. Need to look at the actual wattage draw, which even then is often not what you get. Marketed 200W draw, may pull only 150W and some of that is lost to driver heat etc. There is no PPF data anywhere, as far as I know, nor data on efficiency for the Epistar diode lights. I think Growmau5 once hypothesized 0.9 umol/j which is really bad, HID blows it out the water, CFL/T5 comparable. This is why "old fart HPS users" have not bought into LEDs over the years and only now with more quality fixtures are actually considering it. Reputable COBs (Cree, Vero, Citizen) are the way to go for LEDs, or quantum board type tech have higher efficiency and much better heat dissipation, but really expenny and still quite new. There's pretty much only one supplier in SA, Make Light, lots of kits internationally, Rapid Led, Timber grow lights, Chilled, Pacific light concepts, Cutter electronics, etc. TL;DR: you will get better penetration with Mars, etc. than CFL / T5, but the efficiency is so bad, wattage is much better spent on HID and very arguably CFL / T5 in a SOG or SCROG setup. If you want LEDs, go by PPF, be wary of lux and PAR wattage claims on Mars et al, they are very misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jland Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 All good Narina, this is good info! Growmau5 knocked that last grow out of the park with the comparison of MamathP and the other product (can't remember). Think he pulled close to or over 1.5g per watt!!!! SICK!!! Quantum does perform and he has put some nice boards together with step by step instruction, his a trooper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narnia Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Ya much better tech. Quantum boards using the Samsung S5 and S6 diodes and there are fixtures with the Cree (XP2 I think?) diodes. Not sure what the larger higher end lights like Spydr etc. are using, but they're still less efficient than the QBs. Would be remiss not to mention the Sanlight fixtures which have been featured on forum, and on paper look comparable to the QBs. COBs are a bit crazy, but really really effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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