__DANNY__H__ Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Assuh people! So it finally actually happened. It's a weird thing to be growing at home. I've failed at 5 consecutive years of attempting guerilla grows. I've kinda been delaying posting anything because I always end up fucking up and having to stop my thread, but so far I've actually been okay. So hopefully this thread will actually make it to the finish line. Basically the plants are in little makeshift "air pots". I suspect these are causing some problems. Some of the pots are double planted. I did it because some seeds looked like they wouldn't make it, or in case one got nailed by insects. But then time stretched on and I could never muster the strength to just fuckin' kill one. I felt like I couldn't kill a plant without righteous cause, and my cause just wasn't righteous enough, you know? I'm guessing these plants are getting one or more of these: 1.) Root rot (there's algae visible on some pots) 2.) Nitrogen deficiency 3.) The after effects of underwatering (watering gap of 3 hots days last week) Sad times. The time is nigh to transplant into better soil with proper pots, or a raised bed perhaps... I'm trying to do a hot compost pile using minimal water. It's going pretty well, but it still needs some time. Have a lekker post-christmas chill, everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 I've been researching the symptoms my plants are experiencing a bit more. Seems like Mg defficiency? If anyone know much about this, I'd very much appreciate the input. Symptoms in order of occurence: 1. Leaf finger tips yellowing, curling upward, then dying, starting at leaves near the base of the plant and advancing upward. 2. Leaf finger tips "canoeing" and developing brown splotches 3. Whole plant slowly going yellow (again, starting at base of plant and slowly going up.) I'm gonna do a foliar with some Kelpak and some Epsom salts tomorrow, if no one says anything against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hein Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Ahoya. I suck at diagnosing sick plants but I'm pretty sure that once you repot to a proper pot and new soil your problems should start to go away. Those make shift pots of yours is a good idea but not those plastic jugs type. The light shines straight into your soil and with the moisture combination algae is sure to follow as you already have mentioned. The cupping could be heat related........but it could also be pH or root issues. Get your soil ready ready or buy some premade soil and repot. Check your toot system and trim infected root if any and let her recover. Keep updating with pics and keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Shot for the response, Hein! Unfortunately, I'm running this op on a student budget with a grand total of R0 at the moment, so I can't just go out and buy some pots. My plan is to build 80 litre wooden pots from untreated pallet wood, but I don't know when those pallets are coming through. (I'm getting them from a family member who, in turn, doesn't know when he'll get them.) I know they aren't going to last long-term, but if I can get one or two seasons out of them, then I'm chuft! Anyone get any ideas for cheap, improv pots? Was thinking of tough plastic bags (I have a roll of them handy) held in shape by some reeds which are very similar to bamboo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hein Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I have a buddy that takes his normal grow pots and just drill them full of holes. He says it works great and the results is quite impressive. Another buddy of mine does a lot of gardening and made some pots with hessian material. The stuff you can buy at Agrimark.But he uses it for Orchids. Or even a coffee bag from a roastery maybe should work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Howzit everyone! I transplanted on the 1st and 2nd of Jan. I did 4 plants per day because I was too stoned to calculate the amount of soil I needed properly even though I have a damn degree in mathematics (I somehow just divided by 2 somewhere...), and I just didn't have the energy to mix more compost/coir after the first 4 pots. Anyway, I decided I'd take a few update shots. The three plants I took solo pics of are my favourites, as they have reacted best to the LST and are generally growing the best. I left them untied for a couple days since they had just been transplanted. Just put them back on the rope a few minutes ago. They got a Kelpak + corn SST + milk + epsom salts feed yesterday. They're all really perked up after the transplant, I'm very happy! Hein[/member]: I only saw your post after I transplanted, lol! I was considering using hessian for some pots a while ago actually, but my bank balance was literally in the negatives after Christmas so I had no option but to use things I already had in my house, hence the black bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Howzit _danny_h_, those bags look a bit flimsy but that could be the photo. What you could also try is a local nursery and ask them if they have any old pots ( chipped and whatnot ) and I'm sure they won't mind, ask for a cpl of seedling trays as your pretence and they should be more than happy to share. Mine does but I'm in kzn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hein Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Or build your own from a discarded pallet. I get them for free from a local wine farm. Some are treated and some not. The ones that's not treated I have to pay for so I don't have many of them. But an normal pallet works wonders and you can customize your own pot size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Barticle[/member]: The bags are indeed flimsier than oupa's shlong, but they are temporary. I plan to build wooden pots from pallets, I just don't know when I'll be getting the pallets. Hein[/member]: I mentioned building pallet pots earlier in this thread Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Morning _danny_h_ , pots were my quick term fix, but the pallets are a boss idea especially if you like making your own stuff. Hope those pallets come through soon, can't wait to see what ya do, give me some ideas, as I have 3 old deep freezer baskets and some pallets on the farm which I want to make planter boxes for my small patio area, got 2 hammock chairs and a soon to arrive hammock I hope, get some ferns and a junior size cumquat tree going for my little jungle. I grow inside as I have cops for neighbors known them most my life .....haha My apologies for going off topic on your thread matey..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hein Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hein[/member]: I mentioned building pallet pots earlier in this thread Hahaha Sorry dude. I tend to just type what I think when im high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Howzit _Danny_H_, klapped a rough looking pallet planter today which I'm using for my cats catnip garden it's a bit shallow +- 15cm but would do a good running lst me thinks....haha apologies for hijacking bud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 Hein[/member]: No need to be sorry at all! I think I've done things much worse on forums, hahaha. Barticle[/member]: Nice job on the planter. Your stuff is totally welcome here ;P BTW, I have a question for any of the LST pro's out there: When do you like to stop your LST'ing? Toward the beginning of flower? A few weeks into stretch? EDIT: Just to be specific, I mean like at what point do you stop forcing branches to grow horisontally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Hey @_Danny_H_, I'm the same here, just lst'ed the girls today first timer at it, and put in adjusted Scrog due to oscillating fan but looks net is bit high so might raise the girls depending on how the adjust to the lst, but I'm outa my depth a bit in regards to lst and Scrog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hemp Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I usually stop lst when I switch to flower as the plants is much less pliable when in flower, some still adjust a week or so into flower. I like to see the full stretch which happens in the first 3 weeks of flower so I just let it run. Sent from my ALE-L02 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Wow.. been a while since I last updated. Today I've gotten the my first sexed plant. It's a definite duder! I'm gonna girdle him tomorrow because I'm curious to see what will happen. If any white hairs appear on other plants before he dies from the girdling, I'll either chop off all the sacks or just end his suffering there-and-then. Most of the plants have got at least one branch that has begun alternating nodes, so the preflowers are inbound! Some of the plants are developing purple stems. The ones from the one seed source (codenamed EL) all are going purple fastest, but there's one from another seed source that's got a mild tinge. Anyone think it's a deficiency? Hope everyone's having a good January so far ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hemp Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 It's either strain related or nutrient lock out, I'm not sure what they are been fed but you could always try a flushing. I noticed some plants are a lighter shade of green and some are plants are showing 2 shades of green which would indicate something is up. What soil are you using...to lazy to check if your mentioned it lol Sent from my ALE-L02 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Definitely a deficiency. The pale green colour of the leaves indicates that too. Don't do a flush! Never flush organic soil Mag def is one of them...Looks like you growing organic right? So maybe supplement with a epsom salts for a while as well as getting a bit more nitrogen in there. Something simple like seagrow should help. A weekly kelp tea and alfalfa tea won't hurt either What kinda soil you growing in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 I have been suspecting a magnesium deficiency for so damn long! The soil is a 1:2 (by volume) mix of coco-coir : compost. The compost was partly store bought (it was on sale, got it home to find it had a slightly unhealthy smell) and partly made at my house. I mixed a fair amount of kelp from the local beach, as well as a bunch of garden waste (e.g. nasturtiums, leaves from trees and shrubs) in there and recomposted for two weeks. Everything but a few of the larger pieces of kelp and the (extremely fiberous) nasturtium stems were completely broken down. I'll definitely be resuming my epsom salt foliars , and hopefully pick up some Seagrow soon. Not too sure how much of a benefit kelp tea would have when I think about the amount of kelp that was composted, I think it was perhaps 4kg of dry kelp. (EDIT: Just to be clear, not all of that ended up in these pots. I only used about 2/3 of the final compost.) Question: what kind of dilution rate should I use for the epsom salt foliars? I was using 1 teaspoon per litre last time and felt it may have been too litle... Also, Is a foliar feeding necessarily the best way to use the epsom salts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 My suggestion is to get those plants into a new soil very quickly cause you don't have much time before flowering. If a compost has the tiniest bit of bad smell to it that means its shouldn't be used because anaerobic bacteria has started to colonize. More than likely cause it got too wet. Then the 2 weeks you composted the other materials wasn't enough either I'm afraid so that's why you're not seeing that soil deliver for you. It hasn't done terribly so far but you can see the plants need more How's your budget? You don't have enough time to cook a new soil so I can give you pointers on a basic soil mix to try and finish off those plants in if you keen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 My budget is effectively zero... The seagrow is already going to be a substantial investment! Give me some ideas, though. I might be able to scrape up enough R5 coins from the couch. I have a "slow" compost pile where we chuck all our kitchen waste, it's got a giant (6m by 1m canopy) granidilla growing out of it, so I suspect that it's 100% good stuff. When they were in the tiny milk-bottle pots they were growing in nothing but that, and they maintained vigourous growth for weeks before getting seriously rootbound and growing some algae. Maybe I can build from that? I should also note that the pictures aren't showing the colour of the leaves properly. They are all quite a bit darker than what the last "group photo" is showing, though I think the individual photos are representing the colour fairly accurately. I'm inclined to agree with you anyway on the judgement that the soil isn't delivering. Their growth hasn't been very impressive since transplant, they've each only put on about 3 to 5 nodes on the main stems since the beginning of Jan. EDIT: Also, I spotted the first pair of white hairs today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Gave them their first Seagro (+ epsom salt + a tspn brown sugar) feeding today. Hopefully they'll start greening up with the extra nitrogen... Also, a pretty important update since the last time: HP1 has begun shifting from vegatative growth into that typical "I'm about to explode" mode (pic attached), where the growth tips start stacking on a whole bunch of growth coupled with a lot of white hairs. It's branches are also starting to harden up somewhat. I'm going to continue training the main-stem horisontally until said main-stem starts alternating nodes, then I reckon I'll let it grow as it likes with some strings to keep things spacious. And lastly: All the plants but one are showing female flowers (the one is the confirmed male from earlier). Me suspects there will be much hermie in my future.. Oh well, it was always gonna play out this way, bagseed grow and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hemp Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 She should start stacking up, get yourself some tweezers and pick off balls if you see any. Good luck bud Sent from my ALE-L02 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeegol Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Afternoon there danny_h, looking good so far, it's Barticle reinvented.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__DANNY__H__ Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Welcome back, Bart. Or should I say Hochy, hehe. May I ask why you dropped the other account or is that rude? Figure I'll post a couple photos of the babies I took now. Please don't be alarmed by the colour folks, the Seagrow has greened them up substantially. I just took this photo like 2 minutes before the sun set, entirely in ambient light. My model of phone isn't well acclaimed for its camera's performance in low light. The plant mentioned earlier (HP1) that is starting to flower. I'm not sure if it's going to stretch a shit-tonne more or if I'm just training a bud horisontally at this point. The internodal spacing on the main stem is less than a cm between the top 5 nodes that have new branches growing from them, and it's been pushing these nodes out at a helluva pace. Hectic. Also it's sibling, HP2, is definitely in a stretching mood, and is taking full advantage of the Seagrow. I have counted 11 growth tips on that plant. I'm quite excited at the thought of seeing what they're gonna look like a couple months from now. Also, ten brownie points to the first person that can tell me which rolling papers I used. EDT: So, two of my attachments just... didn't appear. So yeah.. Also, I should say: the pallets will probably be coming through in like 2 or 3 days. Stand by for some DIY shenanigans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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