YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Whats good everyone! This morning i woke up to a sick plant She was transplanted 4 days ago with a light watering. Leaves are drooping, tips are burnt and curled up & slight yellowing on the edges of the leaves. I fear it could be a pest issue, some sort of mite perhaps? Growth has stunted, but new growth seems ok Edited November 14, 2018 by YourStonedBuddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Calmag deficiency. Also that burnt leaf looks like nutrient burns, tell us about your feed schedule/water ph etc. I had the same issue: Edited November 14, 2018 by greenkush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, greenkush said: Calmag deficiency. Also that burnt leaf looks like nutrient burns, tell us about your feed schedule/water ph etc. I had the same issue: Currently feeding nothing at all, i just moved her from FF seedling mix to the FF premium classic soil. I doubt i should be having issues with calmag in this soil? I am currently watering at Ph 6 every 3-4 days, 0 nutrients used Edited November 14, 2018 by YourStonedBuddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YourStonedBuddy said: Currently feeding nothing at all, i just moved her from FF seedling mix to the FF premium classic soil. I doubt i should be having issues with calmag in this soil? I am currently watering at Ph 6 every 3-4 days, 0 nutrients used It's calmag I had the exact problem. Feed calmag and it should bounce back. Also feeding every 3-4 days with no nutrients you're basically just flushing out everything else. Start your feeding cycle with some fishmix. Edited November 14, 2018 by greenkush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Have you got a fan constantly blowing directly on the plant by any chance? It really looks like you're having PH lockout issues. Are you checking the PH of the water going in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, greenkush said: It's calmag I had the exact problem. Feed calmag and it should bounce back. Are you in FF soil too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 420SA said: Have you got a fan constantly blowing directly on the plant by any chance? I do have an oscillating fan in my space, i mainly run it after i water so it can dry the soil out a little bit faster. Its never running for longer than 2-4 hours at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, YourStonedBuddy said: Are you in FF soil too? I went the same route you did was in FF seedling mix, it started showing those signs then moved to the soil and on the initial feed I helped it along with some calmag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, greenkush said: I went the same route you did was in FF seedling mix, it started showing those signs then moved to the soil and on the initial feed I helped it along with some calmag. Thanks for this! i do have some calmag on hand to feed, thankfully today is water day. What PH have you been watering at in the FF soil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, YourStonedBuddy said: Thanks for this! i do have some calmag on hand to feed, thankfully today is water day. What PH have you been watering at in the FF soil? I'm usually feeding around 5.8-5.9. Feed with calmag, then after this watering start your nutrient feeding at half dose for a few feeds, monitor the plants then increase to full strength. Edited November 14, 2018 by greenkush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 What nutrients will you be using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 @greenkush so looking at this nutrient uptake chart for soil. Me feeding at around ph 6.0 calcium isnt available at that PH range. So bumping my PH to around 6.5 should solve my issues?@420SA Whats your thoughts on a calmag def? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, greenkush said: What nutrients will you be using? I plan to purchase BioBizz - Grow & Bloom What is your feeding schedule like in this FF soil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YourStonedBuddy said: I plan to purchase BioBizz - Grow & Bloom What is your feeding schedule like in this FF soil? Don't buy Grow, get the fish mix. Also your chart is for soil, FF is predominantly coco. I feed with every watering. Feeding at your current level of 6 is fine, the issue you have is the lack of the nutrients available. Edited November 14, 2018 by greenkush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, greenkush said: Don't buy Grow, get the fish mix. Also your chart is for soil, FF is predominantly coco. I feed with every watering. Feeding at your current level of 6 is fine, the issue you have is the lack of the nutrients available. Wow what?? i thought FF was predominantly soil. Also ive read plenty others say they use 0 nutrients in the FF premium mix & here im having to feed already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, YourStonedBuddy said: Wow what?? i thought FF was predominantly soil. Also ive read plenty others say they use 0 nutrients in the FF premium mix & here im having to feed already To be rather honest I find FF soil to be weak in the nutrient department, I mainly just use it because its light and fluffy. Also remember depending on your strain it could easily use up the available nutrients. First watering can either be clean water or for hungrier plants add a single recommended dosage of organic nutrients. The nutrients in the soil should be adequate for approximately 2-6 weeks before additional nutrient applications are required. Direct from their website, notice the "should". Edited November 14, 2018 by greenkush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) i actually experienced exactly these symptoms after a rather rough and traumatic series of transplants between rockwool blocks and organic soil, once the roots settled and pH stabilised it seems to have come right, will still add some epsom to the next feed just to bump up mg and hence help ca uptake Edited November 14, 2018 by McB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, greenkush said: Don't buy Grow, get the fish mix. Also your chart is for soil, FF is predominantly coco. I feed with every watering. Feeding at your current level of 6 is fine, the issue you have is the lack of the nutrients available. agreed, fishmix for veg, i flip over to grow bloom for flower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 There is a mag def but Im sure its cos of PH, either that or that soil is a dud... I would suggest watering with a PH of around 6.2 or 6. What PH are you watering with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, 420SA said: There is a mag def but Im sure its cos of PH, either that or that soil is a dud... I would suggest watering with a PH of around 6.2 or 6. What PH are you watering with? He's already doing it at 6, but constantly watering with no nutrients is just flushing stuff away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, greenkush said: He's already doing it at 6, but constantly watering with no nutrients is just flushing stuff away Sorry missed him saying that. I'm not so sure about the nutrients being flushed away... organics doesn't work like that unless you are flooding that medium and getting huge amounts of runoff. Either the mg isn't there to begin with or there's a PH lockout. I'm sure there's meant to be a good deal of mg in the mix though, enough for young plants at least. The notion that you need to be feeding now is false in my view. I don't see the need to feed plants at all actually during veg. I still haven't fed a drop of bottled nutrient to my organic plants 68 days into flower now so it's possible Perhaps your soil needs a microlife boost as well @YourStonedBuddy. Not sure if you may have experienced the same but I've heard about guys getting their ff soil and its dry. A dry soil is a microbe-less soil. Best you brew an AACT or get some EM in there. Will help with your PH too Get some worm castings and give your soil a top dress with that. Then use it for your AACT's too 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It was in the seedling mix to long , have a look at the grow diary and you will see it's been hungry for a while. That coupled with transplant shock is your issue. You can not wash nutrients out unless stated by 420sa you out huge amounts of water . 2ml per L biobizz with a 25% runoff to start , folior feed with Epsom at 1g per L and give her time to root properly and she will recover nicely . Good advice given by 420sa on aact and the microbes . Sorry it cant be a longer answere , busy day 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, greenkush said: To be rather honest I find FF soil to be weak in the nutrient department, I mainly just use it because its light and fluffy. Also remember depending on your strain it could easily use up the available nutrients. They've been in the FF premium mix for 4 days man haha nothing close to their 2-6 week guestimation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, YourStonedBuddy said: They've been in the FF premium mix for 4 days man haha nothing close to their 2-6 week guestimation Cool, well you've been given a bunch of choices to follow here. The rest is up to you, but let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourStonedBuddy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, Green Leaf Organics said: It was in the seedling mix to long , have a look at the grow diary and you will see it's been hungry for a while. That coupled with transplant shock is your issue. You can not wash nutrients out unless stated by 420sa you out huge amounts of water . 2ml per L biobizz with a 25% runoff to start , folior feed with Epsom at 1g per L and give her time to root properly and she will recover nicely . Good advice given by 420sa on aact and the microbes . Sorry it cant be a longer answere , busy day Just went and got some BioBizz grow, had no idea she was hungry tbh! but looking back at the pics i can see where i went wrong Gave it a light feeding, hopefully it makes good progress! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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