SouthernSmoker95 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Hi guys, Been lurking here a little while, I see the community is well versed and knowledgeable in all things cannabis related. Here's my situation (please see attached), this essentially is the area I have to grow in, I think a tent is out of the question given the narrowness and height restrictions. Another and possibly more pertinent issue is ventilation bearing in mind this is a room under a staircase. In terms of lighting I think I'd like to go the LED route with the low usage and reasonable temps. Those Cobb LED's seem the business. Budget: constrained but willing to spend if I can get something decent here, Ideally I'd like to grow 3 plants ie: 3 strains each run. Open to any and all feedback, vets do chime in and please advise. Hopefully the pic suffices as an indication of the dimensions? (Using the tiles to guesstimate). I just want to maximize what I have to work with here and have something simple, hassle free and efficient. Would be my 1st indoor grow, have done 1 outdoor plant previously which was a fantastic learning experience and something which I really enjoyed. Many thanks,SouthernSmoker Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) Looking at the available space I'm going to guess about 1m across 1.5 to 2m deep. The issue here will be access to your plants and as you mentioned ventilation. Fresh air is essential. Cobs require a bit of headroom so that may be of concern. Possibly look at a quantum board type led solution if you are stuck on led as your lighting choice. Personally. I would use the area as it. White walls will be plenty reflective. I'm assuming there is a door to that area by the latch middle left. Edited November 25, 2018 by McB Typos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Is it a sealed space? i.e are those doors on the right and left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoker95 Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 Space is sealed, there's the door (where pic was taken from), then there's also a little corridor that leads under the first flight of steps (back right of pic) this space is obviously very tight.Thus grow area is pretty much all the space that you can see in the pic.Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batista Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 As a first timer, I would advise you to go with cfls,just to get the hang of things and not spend so much cash initially. Once you get some experience you can find a better space and then scale up with better lights ,ventilation etc. It is possible to grow a plant or 2 in that space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) i have to say that in my opinion cfls's are false economy for anything more than veg and seedling. even on the larger wattage your drop off is so severe they really are better suited to micro grows due to proximity needed to canopy. lets think about this, thinking out of the box in a sense. you put a frame on wheels in there, lights hang from frame, plants on table in frame, whole thing wheels on out of there to be worked on, i see roughly 1x1.5 scrog there potentially. i think the key will be air exchange here, before lighting choices are considered, where will we intake from and vent too Edited November 26, 2018 by McB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batista Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, McB said: i have to say that in my opinion cfls's are false economy for anything more than veg and seedling. even on the larger wattage your drop off is so severe they really are better suited to micro grows due to proximity needed to canopy. lets think about this, thinking out of the box in a sense. you put a frame on wheels in there, lights hang from frame, plants on table in frame, whole thing wheels on out of there to be worked on, i see roughly 1x1.5 scrog there potentially. i think the key will be air exchange here, before lighting choices are considered, where will we intake from and vent too True, but he doesn really have any ventilation in there,hence why I said cfls.Im assuming this is his first grow,lets see what he says. Edited November 26, 2018 by Batista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoker95 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 So guys ventilation is obviously an issue here, what can be done to resolve?As for CFLs not so keen on them because I'd hate to put in the effort and land up with airy af pop corn bud, I want some beautiful nugs a man can be proud of.Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Well we are going to need fresh air intake and somewhere to exhaust the hot air. Preferably in flower vented via carbon filter but we will get to that. So... Can you make holes or is this a rental. Where is the closest outside air source you can pull air from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_sToNeR Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Solid thought he was asking for veterinarians to please assist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batista Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Pvt_sToNeR said: Solid thought he was asking for veterinarians to please assist or Military vets lol Ok back to topic, If you cant use CFLs and you cant make any hole then you have to go for higher end LEDS.Maybe even quantum boards.What is your budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_sToNeR Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I would suggest a hole in the door for ducting (much cheaper and simpler than the wall route) but then you have ducting on the other side of the door so not too sure how discreet you want it to be @SouthernSmoker95 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, Pvt_sToNeR said: I would suggest a hole in the door for ducting (much cheaper and simpler than the wall route) but then you have ducting on the other side of the door so not too sure how discreet you want it to be @SouthernSmoker95 ? pretty much waht i was thinking, low level vent in door assuming its near a fresh air intake, would have to exhaust elsewhere to avoid recirculating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_sToNeR Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, McB said: pretty much waht i was thinking, low level vent in door assuming its near a fresh air intake, would have to exhaust elsewhere to avoid recirculating If he is ok with some ducting running out the door, then i rate that will be the most easiest and cost effective plan. How far is the door from a window @SouthernSmoker95 ? BTW, fellow '95 baby over here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoker95 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Howzit okes,Sorry for inactivity been a bit busy, must be honest haven't moved into the place as yet and yes it is in a complex (could even be sectional title).So drilling into the wall may prove troublesome. Hoping to go past this weekend but basically the room has a door at the bottom of the stairs, the door is in the middle between the entrance/kitchen and lounge/patio area. Budget- 10K?Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Green Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I just broke a hole through my wall in a sectional title and this past week. Just tune the body corporate you want to put airvents in your rooms as you are a smoker and the place is stuffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_sToNeR Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 12 hours ago, SouthernSmoker95 said: Hoping to go past this weekend but basically the room has a door at the bottom of the stairs, the door is in the middle between the entrance/kitchen and lounge/patio area. So if you don't want ducting running through the house are you able to go out the door and straight up into the roof ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, Pvt_sToNeR said: So if you don't want ducting running through the house are you able to go out the door and straight up into the roof ? considering the stairs im going to venture the "roof" may be someone elses floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_sToNeR Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Ojah, hello stairs @SouthernSmoker95 do you have a garage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoker95 Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to go past okes, hopefully this sketch will help answer some of the questions?Maybe we can drill ventilation holes (one in/one out) in the grow room onto the grassy path.Pls lemme know thoughts. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S420 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 10:36 PM, SouthernSmoker95 said: So guys ventilation is obviously an issue here, what can be done to resolve? As for CFLs not so keen on them because I'd hate to put in the effort and land up with airy af pop corn bud, I want some beautiful nugs a man can be proud of. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Can you maybe run some '6 ducting from the room to a window or through the ceiling. Might have to cut a whole in the door and fit a fan there to suck air into the grow area. These are the simplest fixes to ventilation I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budwizer Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 This can be done, but you’re gonna need tools and some know how. I have a good idea how I would do it, but if you’re not up to the task, and don’t have some serious skillz, I can’t help. Its also not gonna be the cheapest build. Whats your budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McB Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Budwizer said: This can be done, but you’re gonna need tools and some know how. I have a good idea how I would do it, but if you’re not up to the task, and don’t have some serious skillz, I can’t help. Its also not gonna be the cheapest build. Whats your budget? im intrigued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoker95 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Ha ha no pressure, well in terms of tools I have very little, basically just a Bob the builder-esque toolbox, no indoor marijuana cultivation setup experience hence me joining here for advice (mad skillz be lacking).So I'm very much in the dark here, and I'm also not terribly technically/electrically inclined, I have seen a few 'consulting' type businesses that sprang up with the judgement, so hoping I can find a 'consultant' who can assist me.Any suggestions please feel free to pm/post here.Budget as mentioned is 10K, can also look at a 'consultancy' fee separate from this.Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batista Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The way I see it, there are 2 options. 1.Door holes Assuming you are ok with this not being a stealth grow. Place the intake and vent in your door, one must be low(intake) the other must be high and then you would want to use ducting on the intake hole and take it all the way back to where the plants will be so about a few meters of ducting.Then you attached an extractor fan near the door with some ducting coming out the top of the door hole(Exhaust). This has its drawback such as whenever you open the door, the ducting will drag across the floor a little bit so might knock something down in the grow space. 2.Holes in the wall, yep no explanation necessary.Possible not doable because you are renting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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