Totemic Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There is just something about organics that make buds so tasty. There is no better organic growing than in a "Living Soil" teaming with beneficial Bacteria, Mycorrhizal Fungi, and everything else your Cannabis needs to grow the dankest of bud. And best of all, you don't need any other nutrients at all for the entire life cycle of the plant. When I decided to go a full on organic route, I spent hours and hours searching the net for formulations, that are firstly effective, and secondly, has ingredients that are easily obtainable in South Africa from a sustainable source, and affordable. I have had to make many substitutions, since guano’s are not so readily available, and they are super expensive when you do manage to get hold of it. So I thought I would share my soil mix that I grow all my babies in. Super Soil Ingredients 60l Potting Soil (I use DoubleGrow) 40l Mushroom Compost ( Also DoubleGrow) 25l Worm Castings (Hortishop) 500g Bone Meal 500g Talborne (I do not use the Fruit and flower, but the VitaVeg 6-3-4) 1kg SeaMunGus (Chicken Manure and Kelp pellets and plants love it!) 1kg Lucerne Pellets (Rabbit food) 500g Agricultural Lime 500g Volcanic Rock Dust (Turbogrow) 1 sachet of rock phosphate 500g Mycoroot 1 Compost activator sachet (Effecto Brand) 500g Brown Sugar (You can add Molasses, but I find that it takes the micro-organisms longer to eat up the sugar) Once all these are thoroughly mixed, this soil needs to mature and stabilize over a period of 2-3 months minimum; however the soil becomes sweeter the longer you leave it. I store my soil in large black bins, and chuck the whole lot out and mix through once a month for the first 2 months. This soil needs to be kept only just moist, but not wet. Pro Mix Ingredients 60l Coco Peat 30l Worm castings 30l Mushroom compost 20l Perlite 40L Super Soil (This first needs to stabilize before using) 500g Bone Meal 500g Talborne VitaVeg 6-3-4 500g volcanic Rock Dust 500g Mycoroot 500g Agricultural Lime Regardless of the size of the container I grow in, I fill the bottom half with Super Soil, and the remainder with Pro Mix. From seed to harvest I have never had deficient plants, and I only use de-chlorinated tap water (Just let it stand for 24 hours or more to let all the Chlorine evaporate. Unless your tap water pH is really off, you don’t even need to pH correct your water. The lime in the mix is a brilliant buffer to acidity. It does cost a bit to mix this soil up, but the results speak for themselves! 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Wow thanks for that.. I'm gonna try it soon.. I'll make a batch soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyTheBear Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Great stuff brother. I need to try this mix out for my next grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Thanks Tote. Growing in just coco/perlite is a big pain in the arse! Strongly considering this for my next grow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akire Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Winderful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggaroker Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 My biggest lady's soil/topsoil I got from the mountain mixed it with some compost and perlite and topped it with kelpak's growit.The results are amazing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Going and sampling soil from the mountains and forests are a very good way to ensure that you have a soil that is teaming with local strains of fungi and bacteria, and will help a lot with immune stability of your plants. Always look for patches where the humus is a few centimeters thick, and sample from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedicon Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Would love so much to have my own indoor grow, but am so freakin paranoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCrunchy Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Has anyone herd of or tried Orgasoilux living soil mix from Jamie's Garden Shop? It seems to have most of the boxes ticked on paper - does it work though? :-$moke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCrunchy Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Hi friends. The original post from Totemic sparked a research project and I found an organic living soil mix on the Jamie's Garden shop website. It seems to have all of the required, basic aspects. I'm interested in trying an organic alternative for my next grow. I would like some input from the gang if there is any. $moke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hi Totemic I've been searching the net for organic recipe's but we don't have the brands they have overseas so it made it quite difficult. Very pleased to have found this and all of the ingredients are easily available. I just wanted to check, you have the super soil and the pro mix and you use both. If I use just one or the other would that also be fine? I also notice the first mix doesn't have any perlite, would it do any harm if I add a bit to it? Also can I substitute the agricultural lime for dolomite lime? Thanks for sharing this, It looks like a fantastic mix... I'm going to mix up a batch of the super soil this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hi AJ, I use both when i want to grow out a plant, and not really have to feed it anything throughout the grow. By adding the supersoil to the bottom, and the promix to the top, allows the younger plants to establish their root systems, and grow into the supersoil to get the nutes. Planting a seed/seedling into supersoil directly will kill it. You can also only use the promix if you are going to suppliment with organic feeding. You can add perlite to the supersoil if you'd like more air. Agricultural lime is dolomite lime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Just to check, you keep the two mixes in separate containers. And only when mature you will layer it into your pots as specified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I only keep my supersoil in storage. I mix my promix up as I need it, and use the aged supersoil as one of the ingredients of the promix. (The super soil is the Living soil) Promix does not need to age. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Great thanks. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxwell Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 In my experience with soil, as long as you do it correctly, it can never go wrong. My current batch is super strong, but seedlings don't even flinch. It is all about the cooking process imo. Ingredients play less of a role than I initially thought. Cook your soil right, and no matter the plant size, it'll be fine. I only use water, start to finish. If you begin with some basic principles in place, the rest is largely patience and dedication. Uncooked soil is pointless imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Hi Guys. I have managed to source most of the things I need, Totemic maybe you can help me here. I can't track down the Lucerne. I tried a few pet shops but they all seem to be selling either like a rabbit muesli or a mix that has a bit of lucerne in but also corn, sunflower seeds, hay and who knows what else. I also can't track down the Taiborne. I checked their website and then tried Stodels Bellville and Milnerton. I also tried Super Plants and PnP Hyper (it says on their site they have it) None of them had. Hortishop is out of worm castings but they getting today I think. Where did you buy the Talborne and lucerne? Thanks a mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The lucerne pellets you can get at any pet shop. The Talborne I got from Builders warehouse nursery section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grunterfish86 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Aj you can get both talborne and actual Lucerne meal from Jamie's garden supplies (Google it) has lots of organic stuff, and in hout bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Thanks Gents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grunterfish86 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Oops Its actually alfalfa meal Aj couldn't remeber and its just come back to me now !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hey guys an elementary soil additive is epsom salts, have not read it on this topic at all. Most good hydro stores use it for promix, even in South Africa. If you look online it does well with roses and tomatoes. Hint hint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Was just speed reading and saw your post about Lucerne, rabbit food. Was feeding horses just the other day, that rabbit mix might work wonders actually. The season I say that is horse lucerne pellets are mixed with strong amounts of mollases, especially those game licks. So probably just throw it in your brew and there will be extra activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Quite the thread revival, I know. So who all is using this soil and how is it performing? Do you just chuck the ingredients together in a big bin and close it and leave it outside? Does it need sun or heat? Any modifications to the recipe? Freedom Farms soil has become popular, perhaps that's instead or? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger96 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This is a bit of an upgrade to the FF range.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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