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On 9/19/2021 at 7:07 PM, Prom said:

When did you drop the seed into water for the plant? Last week of June?

I got it from a friend (who doesn't grow at all), random unknown seeds he received from someone, already in a pot, unknown age, just out of the back of his van, as they were moving stuff.

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15 hours ago, ORGANinc. said:

That should be one hell of a yield, please share results.

Well, we'll see once all the leaves are off. Pictures can be deceiving, it's not a huge plant, not that I'm complaining.

14 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

That plant looks quite unique with the structure of the bud and leaf etc.

 

Nice! 😄 

Yep, a bit of space between buds would have been good tho. Had to remove the lower fan leaves to get some airflow in there.

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1 hour ago, Martin7318 said:

Damn, that's cool. Just some regular LST? 😅. This makes me feel like I did a proper shit job 🤣

Heck no, brother, it's all good, man I almost destroy plants on the regular (and sometimes do!). Fire up another seed or two and start over!!

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14 hours ago, Martin7318 said:

Damn, that's cool. Just some regular LST? 😅. This makes me feel like I did a proper shit job 🤣

There are many ways to LST a plant. As long as it ends with the results you want - which is often a flat canopy, then it is a success. 😄 

 

Play around, try different things and see what works best for you or best in specific situations.

LST is great to shuffle the apical dominance around between the different branches and gives some of the side branches more of a chance to catch up and to level the canopy.

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Hey guys, I'd appreciate some feedback regarding a choice I have to make for the light I'm developing:

The driver will be located outside of the tent (on top of tent like I do or up to user) to more easily keep temps low.

Two options I have to decide between:
1. External driver + external dimming - no daisy chain.
2. External driver + internal dimming + daisy chain located on the inside of the light frame.

Here are my thoughts:
- Practically speaking, it is easier to access the dimmer when outside the tent. 
- When located on the light, the user first has to unzip the tent, and depending on the orientation and height of the fixture, accessing the control can be awkward, especially for shorter or disabled people. 
- The user may wish to dim the light before they open the tent, in order to protect their eyes.

I feel like the majority of people looking to cover a bigger tent/area will usually buy a single, bigger light, rather than daisy chain multiple. In any case, when located externally, the dimmer is right there, on top of, or at arms length beside the tent, and will be clearly labeled for accurate power selection.

An external daisy chain/dimmer combo box should be possible in the future though. And while I don't think it takes much effort to turn 2-3-4 dials (how often is it even necessary..3 times in a complete grow cycle, if that?), still, it would be nice to have the option.

Not everyone is willing/wants to train a single, level canopy. In those cases, the ability to hang multiple lights at different heights and power levels is way more useful.

Maybe I'm dead wrong, and/as well as a crazy person. Let me know.. about the first part.

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On a side note, the led count is up 25% from 424pcs to 528pcs, a trade-off benefit of it being more cost effective to produce a traditional strip of LEDs vs the separated design(which will have to wait, for now). Kinda weak, but also pretty sweet because the power is up a nudge, and they will run cooler, more efficiently and prolong their lifespan. It should now comfortably flower a 90cmx90cm tent.

 

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Kind of looks like a bonsai version of a larger grow. Really didn't stretch much at all. But it kind of works out because I aim for as little "larf" as possible anyway.

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Check this guy out: 

 

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Probably should have spread the canopy apart earlier, but hey, I'm learning. I think a good scrog net is a better idea, but this unknown plant is SO strong. Must get some good genetics to grow.

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Final LED count up from 528 to 536pcs. New, more robust hinges and end caps. Driver can be mounted on the bars, or outside the tent with included extension cord. The rotating aluminium feet on the driver also help sink heat, and provide a stable, elevated mount for the top of the tent, or easy mounting on the wall.

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Now if only the global supply chain could return to some degree of normality.

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1 hour ago, MrE said:

Probably should have spread the canopy apart earlier, but hey, I'm learning. I think a good scrog net is a better idea, but this unknown plant is SO strong. Must get some good genetics to grow.

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Final LED count up from 528 to 536pcs. New, more robust hinges and end caps. Driver can be mounted on the bars, or outside the tent with included extension cord. The rotating aluminium feet on the driver also help sink heat, and provide a stable, elevated mount for the top of the tent, or easy mounting on the wall.

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Now if only the global supply chain could return to some degree of normality. 😕

That's a beast of a plant man well done. And some snazzy training. 

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No, that's a little more involved. I just tied the branches down a lot and defoliated a bunch. I like to try keep it simple.
Can you explain how you defoliate and still manage full buds? I feel like my defol technique is stopping the bud from developing into a long uniform bud. Do you pull of leaves by the stem or just snip them off leaving a small part on the plant?
Thanks

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6 hours ago, Batista said:

Can you explain how you defoliate and still manage full buds? I feel like my defol technique is stopping the bud from developing into a long uniform bud. Do you pull of leaves by the stem or just snip them off leaving a small part on the plant?
Thanks
 

What I do: (first it's important to know the difference between the fan leaves that drive the overall growth, and the leaves at bud/future bud sites. (Usually very small or non-existant at the time of defoliation) [I snip with scissors or just pluck with fingernails (smaller leaves), at the base-ish part of the stem]

I usually gradually strip the majority of the big, fat, fan leaves before/during pre-flower (first to go are the ones at the top, I may leave lower ones if they're not in the way, or impeding airflow, but lately they eventually are all removed).

As the branches stretch during pre-flower/early flower, I constantly remove any fan leaves that are shading lower areas in a meaningful way. I prioritise airflow/light.

I continue this general practise until they have finished stretching. Even then I continue to defoliate, in an even/uniform manner. Each day I'm looking for leaves that are creating little pockets of moisture/dead airflow/significant shade.

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