Ill_Evan Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Sorted the humidity, without having to buy a humidifier. Lifted the light about half a ruler length and replaced the one large bowl of water in the corner of the tent to two smaller containers at the same level as the plants. Also keeping one vent open for now. Humidity is stable at 35%. Humidity is showing more in the pics because I just used foliar spray Cripple plant is doing well. Daily foliar spray with very light nutes and Kelpak. New leaf growth continues and roots are now much more visible at the bottom of the net pot. Hoping to have the roots hit the water by the end of this week Healthy plant doing the most. Fast leaf growth and roots continue developing at a fast pace since hitting the water 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 Added about a teaspoon of epson salts to each res. PPM is sitting at 500 for both. Seedling strength nutes in the res, vegetative stage nutes in the premix nute bottle I use to refill the res's, so the nutes will rise as I replace more water in the res's. Great recovery on the cripple. Roots have touched the res water and rapid growth is expected from here on out. Big sister also coming along nicely, but I think the heat is getting to her a little bit. Seeing some signs of heat stress and relative humidity is still a little bit low. Replaced the 250W MH with the 400W MH to test conditions and it did get a little toasty at first. Max temp reached was 35C, although res temp has so far never broken 26C which is good. I've raised the light up a touch and put my exhaust system from low to medium power. Waiting for the light to come on tonight to see how the temps fare. If temps don't keep below 30C I may just switch back to 250W MH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 Both plants looking much better tonight. Temp and humidity stabilising at 32C and 18% respectively. 400W MH bulb is sitting at about 20 inches away from the plants. They seem pretty happy so I'm just going to leave things as they are as long as they keep looking good. I have a feeling I am able to get away with the lower humidity because of the DWC setup. The plants have such direct access to water and nutrients that I think they can manage without optimal humidity levels. Wouldn't mind some rain in general though, it's fokoff dry in my area. The humidity will rise as the plants get bigger anyways, so I'm not too phased that it will have any negative impact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 Switched back to 250W MH. After doing a cycle with the 400W my system isn't enough to keep temps at a comfortable level for the plants. I think I may need a small intake fan, such as a 6 inch duct fan to help pull fresh air into the tent to help keep temps down. Would possibly also help with the negative pressure and humidity. Going to experiment again with the 400W MH after I get the intake fan and once the first rain hits in my area. It is hot my dudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Why not just add a passive air intake? Like an air filter, my tent came with one and now that it is summer it makes a HUGE difference! Temps are more consistent and cooler, humidity is better controlled and the negative pressure is still there but not as bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 Got the 6 inch intake at the bottom open with some ducting to keep it wide and an old stocking as a filter Also got one of the side vents on the wall right side of the tent open I'm actually now against getting an intake fan just tryna beat this heat man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Pruned the healthy lady and topped to her third node. Going to continue with LST in a few days as the two main nodes start to recover and grow from the stress of the pruning. The smaller lady is pushing on root development heavily. Looking healthy and just carrying on at a decent pace. Smooth sailing at the moment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Some pitter-patter rain in the area has raised the general humidity quite nicely, sitting above 40% when it's usually at this time below 20%. Ladies look super good. Decided to top the little sister and begin LST on the big sister. An interesting difference between the two plants apart from their size are their own root developments. The little sister sprouted multiple root sites under the net pot where the bigger sister grew a stem from the one small root to the surface of the water and is the site for it's main root development. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 Went to the Transkei for a few days and left the ladies alone for a bit. Got back to find great growth on both ladies. Doing LST on the bigger of the two and once they are both on an equal level in height I am going to put up a DIY scrog net and grow out as much of the 80cm³ space as possible using the 4 mainlines I have created between the 2 plants. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Put up a DIY scrog net I made with rope and cable ties. It also gives me a nice indication of where I am aiming for the canopy to be. Otherwise, still smooth sailing. Growth is continous and healthy. The two plants are looking pretty level, I want them to hit and spread on the net at the same time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchy Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Looking good. I need to do something similar for my tent, and like the simplicity of your solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Looking good! Those plants need to really grow quite a bit before they reach the net Im not sure you have taken into consideration the stretch? How I scrog is, I put the scrog near the current canopy, maybe a bit higher if the plants are small, then I let the plant grow through the net, and every few days, I pull it under the net and let it grow up again.... Always maintaining the canopy all the way through veg. Then I flip and let the plants do their thing. You must not do too much training in bloom! Trust in your veg and your scrog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Looking good! Keen to see the scrog net full with buds in a few weeks time. Looking at the pictures, it appears as if height is a bit of an issue for you. The HID seems rather close to the scrog net. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 I can adjust the net and the height of the light at will @PsyCLown will adjust as necessary. @CreX might just lower the net a bit after a bit more spread after a few days. I have considered the flowering stretch. The timing in general with a scrog net is new to me, so I'm playing it as I go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Ill_Evan said: I can adjust the net and the height of the light at will @PsyCLown will adjust as necessary. @CreX might just lower the net a bit after a bit more spread after a few days. I have considered the flowering stretch. The timing in general with a scrog net is new to me, so I'm playing it as I go. Nice! As long as you have room to raise it. It looked as if it was already at the top of the tent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Looking good man... love the cooler boxes! Those girls gonna outgrow that space... double up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Been thinking what @CreX mentioned about trusting in the scrog. Also @CleanGreen I agree I might run into space issues if I don't plan ahead. I decided to then lower the scrog and let the plants grow into them from now on. I also did a very light defoliation on some of the bigger fan leaves that were touching the cooler boxes and completely in shade. @PsyCLown I took a pic to show the space I still have above the light, we'll call that the "just-in-case-space" Edited November 6, 2019 by Ill_Evan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Now you're cooking with gas papi!! That looks like a winner! Do you have the 250w in there? If so, I had awesome results with the bulb surface 30cm away from the canopy! Keep an eye on the res as the ladies will start to driiiiiink!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) A very exciting update! With the aide of our very own @PsyCLown I was provided with a DIY quantum board kit consisting of two QB288's capable of 240W of light goodness. A shout out to @CreX who also assisted me in troubleshooting the setup when I ran into some initial issues with the driver. Here is how the new setup looks: Now for the plants. Just a quick photo update should suffice. Starting to fill up the scrog net consistently. Going to run the QB at 100W for now while I am still in veg and testing the setup. Edited November 10, 2019 by Ill_Evan 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Yyyeeeeaaaaaahhh boooooooooi!!! And now... You do the things... And then you smoke the buds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Very nice! Enjoy the QB's @Ill_Evan and let us know how it goes and compares to your HPS. Running my QB's at 130 to 140w in veg and some plants are further away from the LED's compared to your setup. It fits your tent really well too. Eager to see the outcome on this grow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Ah man, just can't catch a day now without doing something with the plants Growth is so rapid I have to check daily to tuck new growth under the scrog net to keep it nice and level. It will be super worth it when the whole scrog is filled nicely and evenly Bumped up the watts to 120W and keeping it just about 40cm above the canopy Also did a defoliation of the large fan leaves tonight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Looking good man, nice clean setup DWC is the way to go!... interested to see the scrog working out so early, my girls need some but not figured out a good way. Below clones are 40 days old, like you see space is tight and four more weeks and I HAVE to move them to the bigger flowering space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I've followed your grows since you started on the forum @CleanGreen always pushing your space's limits and once growing past your lights if anyone has learnt about space management it is you sir! I am hoping with the scrog I can avoid a miniature cannabis botanical garden (although it does sound kinda nice...) I'll be happy with another tent to do perpetual grows with one in veg and the other in flower, but alas, we must wait for that day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 @Ill_Evan Thanks bud, haha last night my girls destroyed my scrog system...do I wait till they done flowering or fix it now, there is always a learning curve. Re the tent, why not just get some panda plastic, ive learned your plants dont need to be 100% in the dark. Lighting get some cheap led flood light and use them to veg and use your QB for flowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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