Ill_Evan Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Ssomeguy said: Come tell this to my plants. I only have 2 commercial plants, and they were sent from Humboldt Seed Org free. In all honesty. Wish I didn't buy anything for growing. The less I make do with, the better they do. If you're blessed with the space (or just "find" your own) you can get away with basically just seeds, soil and attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Ssomeguy said: Come tell this to my plants. I only have 2 commercial plants, and they were sent from Humboldt Seed Org free. In all honesty. Wish I didn't buy anything for growing. The less I make do with, the better they do. Yeah come talk when you’ve grown sluricane 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 hours ago, greenkush said: Yeah come talk when you’ve grown sluricane I scrape the frost off and use it like butter! Mmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 4:54 AM, Ssomeguy said: Come tell this to my plants. I only have 2 commercial plants, and they were sent from Humboldt Seed Org free. In all honesty. Wish I didn't buy anything for growing. The less I make do with, the better they do. LOL I'll choon the stomata on underside of your prized bagseed I have grown a decent amount of bagseed out, more than 100 for sure. Is very rare to find one plant that's decent. And even rarer to find someone who is willing to take cuttings of something they have never smoked or flowered. Im saying that out of 10 bagseed plants, you might find 1 or 2 that are okay But with paid for genetics out of ten, you will get 7 or 8 or more decent plants. It's really not fun spending weeks or months growing a plant you think will be amazing! And then after harvest it's not what you are looking for at all. You can carry on doing you bru... But don't for a second think you are doing yourself a favor by not growing tried and tested genetics from well spoken of seed companies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CreX said: LOL I'll choon the stomata on underside of your prized bagseed I have grown a decent amount of bagseed out, more than 100 for sure. Is very rare to find one plant that's decent. And even rarer to find someone who is willing to take cuttings of something they have never smoked or flowered. Im saying that out of 10 bagseed plants, you might find 1 or 2 that are okay But with paid for genetics out of ten, you will get 7 or 8 or more decent plants. It's really not fun spending weeks or months growing a plant you think will be amazing! And then after harvest it's not what you are looking for at all. You can carry on doing you bru... But don't for a second think you are doing yourself a favor by not growing tried and tested genetics from well spoken of seed companies. I agree, even if you do not want to grow a lot of different strains - purchase one or two good ones and just keep growing those. I personally do not find it worth while waiting 5 months or so to get bud which is disappointing to save a few hundred rands. Seeds can be a once off purchase if you just keep cloning. I grew a bagseed plant, it turned out pretty good and impressive looking fortunately. Although a grow is only as good as the weakest link really, if you have the best of everything but shit genetics you are going to still get shit. I like to use bodybuilders as an example to compare against cannabis as it can be easy to relate to and understand. In order for a bodybuilder to perform their best, they require certain things - they need to eat right, get enough sleep, train hard and need to have good genetics. Without training and getting all the other stuff dialed in, they will not reach their full potential. Now compare the bodybuilder to an average joe, with sub-par genetics. No matter how much they train and work on trying to be the best if their genetics are shit they will not get as big as the other guys and their performance will not be on the same level. In animal terms, you cannot take an Jack Russell and turn it into a Labrador. The genetics are what they are and end of the day can be a limiting factor. Edited November 7, 2019 by PsyCLown 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ssomeguy said: Hahahaha. If you have a different opinion or view, please share it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, SkunkPharm said: I believe their are very good local strains and there are guys who have selected very good phenotypes that they breed with and they are trying to preserve our local strains. Problem is we don't have space to grow out a thousand plants and selecting 10 or 15 to breed with. Legality is still the problem. I have heard of guys growing high thcv strains. But they are keeping those strains for themselves. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk When you say local, are you referring to the land races? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkPharm Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yes. If you want to call it that Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ssomeguy said: Hahahaha. Funny guy neh. Put your haha's where your mouth is papi... I'm beginning to think you haven't even harvested for the first time yet 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, SkunkPharm said: Yes. If you want to call it that Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk I'd love to grow some, although finding some which are good is the problem. I don't know where to look and then just how good are they? As you said, legality is still an issue and affects breeding a fair bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 I think the topic of landrace strains deserves a thread of it's own. I'm not even sure they exist anymore from all the human intervention, but that depends on how strict your definition of landrace is. Kinda like the argument regarding organic growing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 @SkunkPharm I love my local pavement special, she hardy produces shit loads of buds and a nice high, can grow a bit out of hand indoor lol I had a peach hybrid strain... had to kill her midway flowering 90%covered in PM while my local strain next to it had none. Yes there are great strains out there and 20+% THC, but just like dog breeding when you over breed you get weaknesses in the genetic.... my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, CleanGreen said: Yes there are great strains out there and 20+% THC, but just like dog breeding when you over breed you get weaknesses in the genetic.... my opinion. If the strain is bred properly and stabilized there is very little to no chance of genetic abnormalities or weaknesses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 @greenkush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, CleanGreen said: @greenkush I assume you have a point to just randomly posting some video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, greenkush said: I assume you have a point to just randomly posting some video? Am sorry I posted a "random" video that has nothing to do with cannabis my bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 51 minutes ago, CleanGreen said: Am sorry I posted a "random" video that has nothing to do with cannabis my bad. Hurdur... I assumed the video was to support your claim for genetic weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGreen Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 @greenkush Great frosting man you grew that yourself? Did you get it from these guys? https://strains.cannamaps.com/slurricane/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, CleanGreen said: @greenkush Great frosting man you grew that yourself? Did you get it from these guys? https://strains.cannamaps.com/slurricane/ No I did not grow it, its an example from the breeder. Correct its from In-House Genetics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Split the conversation from the other thread into this new topic. I believe Ssomeguy is one the one who started the debate but he deleted his posts and left the forum so @Ill_Evan you just so happened to be the next poster inline hence you being the owner of this topic. I can change the title of the topic etc. guys lemme know what I must do if need be 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylecta Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Oh man, I'm keen to see the earlier comments now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, Psylecta said: Oh man, I'm keen to see the earlier comments now Thanks for reminding me about this jeez I was a n00b when this thread was started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylecta Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Humble beginnings! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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