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In 2020 I would like to undertake (or at least begin) a writing project about weed, and maybe even about my relationship to weed (one nurtured over more than 2 decades). I have no idea what will come out of it yet, but I thought a good place to start would be with a Glog - a way of learning about the fine art of growing weed and also to collect details, thoughts and bits of research for ‘my writing project’. 

 

Skipping introductions (and going strait to what counts), here is a peak at my girls in flower...

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Strains growing:

HSO Chemdawg (organic)

HSO OG Kush (organic)

Barney’s Blue Cheese (Autopot scrog)

 

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 A little more about this grow...

I started sometime in November. I have been away from my gear for more than a year, so this is my first grow in a long time. And as grows go, I have been a bit lazy… so the girls have paid the price (also no lolipoping, no LST and minimal topping).

It is also my first LED grow and I an trying out one of the Fluence Vyprx lights (although I started flowering the Chemawg and OG Kush plants under a 600w HPS)

I went organic for the Chemdawg and OG Kush plants (something I haven't done since my first every grow). Decided to try out the freedom farms mix - supplemented with Biobizz stuff (fish mix in veg, and grow, bloom and top max for flowering). Also giving explogrow - but just ran out. I used 10L bags thinking i would veg for only 2 weeks, but I took my time setting up another tent to start them flowering - so they got another week (1 of the OG Kush plants ran into problems so it got a couple more weeks on top of that) . This means they are a bit too big for the bags -- more labour and problems (and in my efforts to correct them, I have probably overfed biobizz grow). They got flipped around the 23 of November (so they should be done by the end of the month)

 

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(plants at the ned are chemdawg)

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(These are the OG Kush)

The blue cheese are in autopots. I ran into a problems with the system (and had what looked like overwatered plants). It resolved but I am still puzzled by it (and yes, i do have a layer of clay pebbles at the bottom). They are also under a low scrog screen (1,5m x 0,75m more or less). As I need to get everything chopped, dried and in jars by March I flipped these just under two weeks ago (and shoved some clones in an organic mix in the corners). I will probably need to even things out a little more (tucking and underdoing tucking), before leaving them to finish out now. I started out using Nutriplex, but switched to GH stuff when they went into flower. Not supplementing with anything except calmg apart from bit foliar feeding of fulvic acid when I wasn’t feeling lazy.

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(Blue Cheese Scrog)

Although not ideal, when I chop the organic plants the light can be moved closer to the girls under the screen. 

 

 

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And this is what's happening outside (my first ever outdoor attempt). Sorbet from the plug seed bank.  It is sitting in a layer of coco-perlite mix (with dolomite lime, bone meal, rock phosphate, talborne organics fruit and flower, worm castings and other stuff) but its no doubt already grown into the soil below. I am a bit worried about bud rot come flower given that I won't really be cleaning under the skirt and the plant is also really close to the wall. but lets see. Hopefully we get back to dry Job weather by then.

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Decided to tidy up my shit a bit after checking out some of the other Glogs on the forum. I could certainly have been more ruthless in cleaning undergrowth, but I got the canopy on the scrog as even as its going to get - although there are just too many bud sites. I suspect the worst of the post-flip-strech is over, although there might still be need to do a small bit of tucking as the plant goes into week 3 of flower.  Lets see.

Started from here...

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Now we're here...

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And just because she is pretty, below is some chemdawg budporn

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6 minutes ago, DankFiend said:

barney's. I know they are shit - but I am giving them one last chance 

Well let's hope they not shit. I'm running them too together with their triple cheese and gorilla zkittles...:rastabanana

Someone I have big respect for as a grower and a breeder ran their blue cheese and swears by the uniformity & quality...

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Well I hit follow, seems like a sweet grow to watch... 

Very keen to see what the fluence does lol.. Not many can afford such lights, so I'm keen to see what they are able to do. 

And sweet job on leveling that canopy man! It's looking really full and level!! 

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5 hours ago, Mambawana said:

What issues have you had with their gear in the past?

My first grow was barney's blue cheese (and Royal Queen's white widow). One of the plants went hemie and another grew out looking more like a blue berry than a blue cheese. So certainly not homogenous. I have heard that although they have award winning genetics, they contract out to smaller outfits for their breeding - no idea if its true.  I will say that the blue berry looking phenotype was probably the nicest tasting weed I ever smoked. I have wondered if I misdiagnosed the hemie (it was my first grow, so I didnt know shit - but some of the pros on weed.co.za confirmed that it was in fact a hemie). Thats part of the reason I thought I would try them again. but I also tried growing their pineapple chuck and got very average to shit results.

 

that said, the two blue cheese plants I am growing this round seem to be the same phenotype and are chowing nutes at more or less the same rate. The proof will however be their performance now, in flower. Lets see

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3 hours ago, CreX said:

Well I hit follow, seems like a sweet grow to watch... 

Very keen to see what the fluence does lol.. Not many can afford such lights, so I'm keen to see what they are able to do. 

And sweet job on leveling that canopy man! It's looking really full and level!! 

the problem is, because the non scrog plants were vegged too long and are pretty tall, the light is being kept to high imo - so i losing some of the light advantage of scroging. the canopy is not level at all - but I am trying.

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Hermies suck. Found 2 in the garden this run. Both were from phenofinder seeds. I'm slowly trying to move away from feminised seeds but it is difficult with what regs are available. I'm not going to do a proper spread out scrog for the barneys farm genetics but rather just grow them through the scrog so it's easier to identify hermies early and remove them. 

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1 hour ago, DankFiend said:

the problem is, because the non scrog plants were vegged too long and are pretty tall, the light is being kept to high imo - so i losing some of the light advantage of scroging. the canopy is not level at all - but I am trying.

Super crop them... I'm always over vegging my plants. There's always some delay and it's the only way I've been able to even things out somewhat.

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1 hour ago, Mambawana said:

Super crop them... I'm always over vegging my plants. There's always some delay and it's the only way I've been able to even things out somewhat.

Super cropping only works on the softer green stem... So if the long stems have wooded up, I don't mess with them. 

I had to super crop the plants to get them under the scrog nicely, but due to the wooded up stems, I couldn't get the net lower and had to make missions haha. 

@DankFiend, maybe if you have another net you can super crop them together and get to lower your light alil.

From what iv seen of the fluence though, you can keep them pretty high and still get fantastic results due to the really high PAR output

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yeah, was going to say, its too late now for super cropping for the chemdawg and og Kush. I am also on a deadline for this grow (and impatient0, and so trying not to do too much that will slow the plants down in flower. In truth I have other options as I have another 600w MH/HPS tent that I started flowering the plants not under the screen in,. However,  I have a bit of chores to do before I can shift them back there. The problem is I am lazy, and I have a tendency to get stoned and procrastinate. Ill post about the venting problem I have with the other tent soon as its about my grow room set up and I wouldn't mind suggestions on how to fix it. 

 

ON super cropping - I super crop all the time. However its usually by accident 😂

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More on the need for super cropping and the power of fluence...

 

At the moment the canopy of the scrog is not even. One of the reasons for this is probably the light. I really didn't anticipate so much secondary and tertiary growth, so much so that now I am worried that there is too much going on in many of the individual holes - with there literally being 4-5 bud points in some case. A more sensible grower might have cleared much of this. However, I decided that what makes it to the screen by the second week of flower can stay - but now shit has gotten a bit crazy and I might be setting myself up for other problem down the line (probably going to need all three of my fans blowing through the canopy to keep moisture from building up). at the same time, I am excited to see what comes of the buds at the lower end or how fucked up crowded the squares can become. 

 

One strategy to keep the canopy more even is to (supercrop) damage the stems of those bud sites that I want to slow down, while the lower growth catches up. But I am lazy and I don't mind popcorn (of course not all popcorn is equal).

 

so, do folks think I am crazy not to clean off growth like this? There are shit loads of squares as crowded, some with taller colas already

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Nah bru, you not crazy. You want to maximize your yield in the space you have. You know the risks, you have a game plan.  

Whether you remove the smaller branches that have reached the net or not that canopy is still going to get thick and you will require good airflow either way.

I'll post my blue cheese flowering aswell... Who knows we might earn barneys some rep.

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37 minutes ago, Mambawana said:

@DankFiend 

Nah bru, you not crazy. You want to maximize your yield in the space you have. You know the risks, you have a game plan.  

Whether you remove the smaller branches that have reached the net or not that canopy is still going to get thick and you will require good airflow either way.

I'll post my blue cheese flowering aswell... Who knows we might earn barneys some rep.

Haha. I love it, it will also allow us to to see how homogenous and stable the strain is. 

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35 minutes ago, DankFiend said:

Haha. I love it, it will also allow us to to see how homogenous and stable the strain is. 

So far all 3 are exactly the same in veg. Same structure, same leaves, same height... 

Trying to control the height across all strains but it's getting difficult, luckily I've started spotting some amber trichs so by the looks of it the flower room should be harvested, cleaned and reset next week some time. Then its transplant, a week of veg in flower room to get the roots going and to get plants to acclimate to the 1000W and then flip.

So you going to be a good 4/5 weeks ahead of me.

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4 minutes ago, Mambawana said:

So far all 3 are exactly the same in veg. Same structure, same leaves, same height... 

Trying to control the height across all strains but it's getting difficult, luckily I've started spotting some amber trichs so by the looks of it the flower room should be harvested, cleaned and reset next week some time. Then its transplant, a week of veg in flower room to get the roots going and to get plants to acclimate to the 1000W and then flip.

So you going to be a good 4/5 weeks ahead of me.

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organic? Beautiful dude!

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