Diary Complete Royal Gorilla and Grandaddy Purple Grow

[Ill_Evan]

12 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Looking good man! I always get excited when I start to see lots of white pistils forming.

That is where I am at currently with my grow, I think I am around a week or two ahead of you in terms of when I flipped.

Do you do you nutes different for the stretching phase vs the flowering phase?

The GHE feeding schedule shows different ratios for preflower and flower, I followed the preflower schedule for the stretch, so yes 

[PsyCLown]

Ahh right, using GHE as well. Nice!

At what point do you plan on switching nutes over to flowering ratios? You going to base it on time or what will you look for in your plants?

[Ill_Evan]

1 hour ago, PsyCLown said:

Ahh right, using GHE as well. Nice!

At what point do you plan on switching nutes over to flowering ratios? You going to base it on time or what will you look for in your plants?

I put in a fresh batch of preflower nutes in last Saturday, so I think I will let that run for a week until this coming Saturday. If the pistils have grown substantially, EC has dropped at least by 0.2 and the stretch has all but halted I will then go full on flower ratio and give the nuggets their much desired bloom nutes. 

[PsyCLown]

Mine are still stretching but I've got some serious pistils going!  

 

Keen to see further updates!

[Ill_Evan]

19 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Keen to see further updates!

You and me both!  So eager for the harvest, I have fokall jaja right now but I mustn't be impatient.. it's hard though. 

[Stinger96]

Tolerance   Break...

That first fatty's gonna kick yur arse..

[Bennie]

@Ill_Evanyour grow is looking great. Where did you source your 250W Quantum Board from? I have currently three different 120Watt Quantum Boards and getting different results under them. The Image below is one of my Monster Bruce Banner Auto's in my DWC system under a 120Watt QB.     

[Ill_Evan]

25 minutes ago, Bennie said:

@Ill_Evanyour grow is looking great. Where did you source your 250W Quantum Board from? I have currently three different 120Watt Quantum Boards and getting different results under them. The Image below is one of my Monster Bruce Banner Auto's in my DWC system under a 120Watt QB. 

Thanks man, going to do an update tomorrow and show off some preflower 

The great and powerful @PsyCLown hooked me up with this particular 250W QB. 

So far loving the performance and it's up to this point comparable to my experience with using 250W MH/HPS. I will make my overall opinion once I get that sweet sweet smoke into my eager face 

Strange that you are getting different results from the three QB's  do they all use the same diodes and driver? 

[Bennie]

3 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said:

Thanks man, going to do an update tomorrow and show off some preflower 

The great and powerful @PsyCLown hooked me up with this particular 250W QB. 

So far loving the performance and it's up to this point comparable to my experience with using 250W MH/HPS. I will make my overall opinion once I get that sweet sweet smoke into my eager face 

Strange that you are getting different results from the three QB's  do they all use the same diodes and driver? 

The proof is in the "Pudding".

I have a 4000k, 3000k and 3000k with red and uv. The one with the red and uv grows the best, but the company does not put it together well.

I'll make contact with @PsyCLownto see if he can hook me up.

[Ill_Evan]

10 minutes ago, Bennie said:

The proof is in the "Pudding".

Agreed! 

 

11 minutes ago, Bennie said:

I have a 4000k, 3000k and 3000k with red and uv. The one with the red and uv grows the best, but the company does not put it together well.

That would make sense. You should gooi all three of them in one tent and get a fat spectrum 

 

12 minutes ago, Bennie said:

I'll make contact with @PsyCLownto see if he can hook me up.

Just be aware, as with all things in this mad time, supply might be difficult, but it never hurts to ask 

[PsyCLown]

1 hour ago, Bennie said:

The proof is in the "Pudding".

I have a 4000k, 3000k and 3000k with red and uv. The one with the red and uv grows the best, but the company does not put it together well.

I'll make contact with @PsyCLownto see if he can hook me up.

Interesting, who make the 3 QB's which you have? Do you have any idea?

Fake diodes are not unheard of and could be the reason you are getting different experiences, also depends how many red and "uv" led's are on the board etc. etc.

[Bennie]

1 hour ago, PsyCLown said:

Interesting, who make the 3 QB's which you have? Do you have any idea?

Fake diodes are not unheard of and could be the reason you are getting different experiences, also depends how many red and "uv" led's are on the board etc. etc.

The 4000K is from GrowOpz, seedlings love the light. The 3000K without red and UV is from greenleafgrow, love their build quality, but not the best growlight (second grow under them and results are not good). The 3000K with red and UV is from onlinegrowshop, plants love the light all around BUT build quality is poor. If I didn't remove the power supply of the heat-sink and added a fan, it would have burned out the leds.   

[Ill_Evan]

1 hour ago, Bennie said:

The 4000K is from GrowOpz, seedlings love the light. The 3000K without red and UV is from greenleafgrow, love their build quality, but not the best growlight (second grow under them and results are not good). The 3000K with red and UV is from onlinegrowshop, plants love the light all around BUT build quality is poor. If I didn't remove the power supply of the heat-sink and added a fan, it would have burned out the leds.   

I'd be pretty bummed, but it seems you got it right with the last QB albeit with a few modifications. I might just have to take this opportunity to thank @PsyCLown for the QB you got me. Seems like you saved me a lot of headaches my dude 

[PsyCLown]

2 hours ago, Bennie said:

The 4000K is from GrowOpz, seedlings love the light. The 3000K without red and UV is from greenleafgrow, love their build quality, but not the best growlight (second grow under them and results are not good). The 3000K with red and UV is from onlinegrowshop, plants love the light all around BUT build quality is poor. If I didn't remove the power supply of the heat-sink and added a fan, it would have burned out the leds.   

When you say build quality, what exactly are you referring to?
The overall light? The way the QB is mounted to the heatsink and the LED driver?

Do Onlinegrowshop not use Meanwell drivers?

[Ill_Evan]

By the power of Jacob Zuma and a 'C' in 'Woodwork', and a tip picked up from @TheUltimateNoob's current grow diary, I built a square frame to rise the cooler box of the shorter plant to try get it closer to the height of it's partner. 

 

Didn't get it perfectly right, it's still a bit short, but much better than previously. Definitely going to keep to the same strain when growing two plants at once in the same tent in future. 

 

Switched to full on flower nutes now, preflowers are looking pretty. Still a while to go before full on flowers, but it's looking good. 

 

 

[Stinger96]

Awesome growth there bud..

[Bennie]

17 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

When you say build quality, what exactly are you referring to?
The overall light? The way the QB is mounted to the heatsink and the LED driver?

Do Onlinegrowshop not use Meanwell drivers?

@Ill_Evansorry for hijacking your post.

@PsyCLowni have attached a picture below. They made use of 3 pieces of flat aluminum to mount the QB and then another two angle angle irons for the Meanwell driver. The grow-light  got so hot, in a span 30min, I couldn't touch it. I removed the two angle irons that was for mounting the Meanwell driver and I added the fan.  Apart from that, the plants and I love the grow-light. 

 

Edited May 1, 2020 by Bennie

[PsyCLown]

Geez, no wonder!
That is shocking that they're selling something like that.

Not only is the alu absorbing the heat from the QB's but the led driver too if its attached to the alu.

Unfortunately it seems people are going to these extremes to make extra profit as opposed to supplying a quality product.

For a while I've been trying to see how I can make quantum boards more cost effective and have come across a few issues, I can't believe they're selling them just like that.

Heat will reduce the lifespan of the LED's and the performance will deteriorate a lot quicker. So by the time you're on your 2nd or 3rd grow the LED's won't be as potent compared to when they were new.
Migro did a nice video comparing some led lights after a few of usage I think or something like that to see how the diodes held up and what their output was like compared to when it was new.

Like other growing lights, LED's do not last forever and they drop in strength as time goes on. So after 5 years it may still produce light but its not nearly as effective compared to a new light with fresh diodes.

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[Ill_Evan]

Decided to give the ladies a light defoliation to get more light and air throughout the plants. The humidity was also sitting a bit high in the 60's range, so hoping this will also help to drop it a little bit as the flowers begin to blossom. 

 

 

Still keeping the overall defoliation less than what I have done before, just to see the results. I've felt like in the past I have gone a bit overboard with the defoliation so I am attempting a healthy middle-ground to what I'm used to. 

[PsyCLown]

Haha, you and I are in the same boat regarding defoliation. I have also left my current plants with more leaves as well as more bud site, see how it turns out.

 

Doing a defol def seems to help reduce the transpiration the plants do and therefore it does appear to affect the RH, in my experience at least.

[Ill_Evan]

2 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Haha, you and I are in the same boat regarding defoliation. I have also left my current plants with more leaves as well as more bud site, see how it turns out.

 

Doing a defol def seems to help reduce the transpiration the plants do and therefore it does appear to affect the RH, in my experience at least.

Got it down to the 50's just from this defoliation. I might take a revisit to the lower parts of the plants tomorrow, my back was just getting eina  I also feel like one can get into a trance while defoliating and go a bit overboard without realising. 

One thing to also consider is that the humidity in general should be dropping more as we get deeper into Winter. 

[PsyCLown]

19 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said:

Got it down to the 50's just from this defoliation. I might take a revisit to the lower parts of the plants tomorrow, my back was just getting eina  I also feel like one can get into a trance while defoliating and go a bit overboard without realising. 

One thing to also consider is that the humidity in general should be dropping more as we get deeper into Winter. 

Yeah, it is actually easier to decide to just cut all / most of the fan leaves off than carefully take a look and see which ones should go. haha

When you have a couple of plants, even more so!

 

Lower RH won't be a bad thing, especially for flowering. I've been doing some IPM to make sure I do not get any PM and did a spray for pests before they started flowering so hopefully I am good on that front.

Remember that shit weed we vaped? Yeah, don't want that to happen again. I neglected that grow quite badly.

[1000Hills Nursery]

6 hours ago, Ill_Evan said:

Got it down to the 50's just from this defoliation. I might take a revisit to the lower parts of the plants tomorrow, my back was just getting eina  I also feel like one can get into a trance while defoliating and go a bit overboard without realising. 

One thing to also consider is that the humidity in general should be dropping more as we get deeper into Winter. 

Grrr... humidity...

Atleast you got it back around where you want it. 

No matter how aggressive you defoliate a week to 2 later it's almost like you can't notice you defoliated. 

I'm also less aggressive these dayz. I eventually noticed when growing the same strains repeated times that they take longer to finish when I defoliate aggressively . I end up with over vegged plants for the reset. And we all know how fast these plants grow in veg once the get going. 

[Ill_Evan]

Another week, some more flower development. The patience is mighty, the sobriety the same. 

Pumped up the EC to 1.9, with the addition of some Freedom Farms Fire Juice. 

 

  

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Ill_Evan

[PsyCLown]

Not sure if it's just the pics but looks like you need to do another defol. Quite a Bush you got going there.

I did a defol on my plants last night and adjusted them a bit, will see how it's looking tonight once they've adjusted and take it from there but light penetration is already much better.

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