Looking for African Landrace Strains

[Prom]

I am looking for Swazi Gold, Kilimanjaro and Malawi seeds. 

After the monstrous impact of Durban Poison.. GSC is one of the most decorated weeds out there.. I would love to breed those three into Autos.. soooo  I look for high quality seeds. 

Anyone has some material to join the mission?  I am a bit bored and this looks like a fun project. 

[Stinger96]

Yeah.. I can help you if you have the space and would like to do some pheno hunting.. I'll help you out if you prepared to share some of the fruits..

Swazi Seeds and some Malawi. These are old seeds.. Collected from township Swazi Suppliers in the early 2000s but one of them I have a thread on.. Corona... A batch from 2003. Where you  based?

 

[Prom]

^^ If I get something stable out, you get a bag of fresh seeds from the alpha bitch  to do your own thing.. will cross with ruderalis.. so you will get the auto version back.. if things work out. But should keep me busy for the next 1-2 years 

I am not over loaded with space, but I should be able to run batches of 25 to select from. Rest.. what do I know hehehe

I am in CT 

 

[Bakstein420]

My sisters groom is from Zimbabwe and often brings some herb from the home land. There is one growing down by the stables that looks pure sativa.

Will get a pic and see if you interested, she is busy in flower.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Bakstein420
The plant, not my sister.

[Bakstein420]

Just over a month ago

2 weeks ago

There's another one further down that is still in veg due to flood lights from the stables.

[Prom]

7 hours ago, Bakstein420 said:

My sisters groom is from Zimbabwe and often brings some herb from the home land. There is one growing down by the stables that looks pure sativa.

Will get a pic and see if you interested, she is busy in flower.

 Thanks! Stinger96 will sort me out with some Malawi and Swazi... so for now, lets see. I wrote to a friend in Kenya and check if she can get some Kilimanjaro, she is more a consumer hehehe I think I better go browse the boards myself.

 

Where you guys buy your HEPA filters? Any place you get em to cut to size yourself? I look for a 550x550 or bigger

 

[oldsandals]

I keep a bunch of southern african stuff but its p1 stuff so it needs to be pheno hunted and inbred for a few generations to clean up the bad traits and improve chances of finding the good types. This will be the case for most landrace stuff that you find, unless someone's already done the work for you. 

Some stuff I've looked at over the years:

Durban - seedbanks, collection valley of 1000 hills, collection Durban CBD taxi rank.

Swazi - many imports, seedbanks, collection JHB, collection Swaziland Piggs Peak casino, collection Durban.

Malawi - many imports, some seed bank, collection balaka village.

Transkei - collection coastal lime green, inland lime green, red, gold, seedbank (ciskei).

Limpopo - collection Polokwane.

Drakensburg - seedbank, collection Himeville.

Natal midlands - collection Rosetta.

Zululand - collection Nkwaleni valley.

Umkhomaas valley - collection.

Probably more I'm not remembering, I'd have to dig in the fridge to make a full list. If anyone out there likes the African sativa and wants to chat or share let me know, I have a huge passion for these type of plants.

 

[oldsandals]

Due to the big possibility of failure with these genetics to provide decent medicine, I like to call them research varieties. And I only plant a few each year from different batches. Right now I have going some old Swazi from early 2000s and some inland Transkei lime greens. I like to make notes on the morphological traits of the plants and compare to others from similar close areas. Most importantly to identify modern genetic pollution or varieties that were originally derived from hemp and have little use as drug plants.

[420sake]

Goodness @oldsandals  - it would be great to share some coffee and sead expressions for Natal plants.

I am very keen on this project 1000HillsNursery is setting up for me to grow soil based trails to see if we cant uncover the Trophy again - DP.

Check it out on the Club page - we have to find.

@Prom I have 20 years' of landrace in a mix in my general outdoor sativa grow stable - not really anything else but best bag seed from each year. If it can help your cause, gooi numbers.

[GGG]

I like this discussion, I have Rooibaard, TK, Swazi Cob and DP seeds from late 80's early 90's.........none of them wants to germinate

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[Chris Jay]

Swazi was never made into cob. It used to be called Swazi Red ( Rooi ) . About to speak to a chap who collected these famous seeds in the 70's/80s, took them to US of A and Amsterdam, a Mr Mel Frank.

[GGG]

My bad, Malawi cob

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[Farmer Brown]

@GGG @Chris Jay

Rooibaard, dam I have not seen that in years... You guys are lucky to still have some old school beans like that.

 

Do best with those!!.

 

Farmer B

[Chris Jay]

Yip, a labour of love. Been collecting, documenting since before it was cool. Mates still joke about me smoking malawi twak. Some of our landraces are listed on Phylos Galaxy and also being tested in Spain, Lesotho and Israel.

Last night was the 2020 HighLife Cup, it was quite cool to be mentioned, and lost in translation with regards to Durban Poison. Durban Poison article coming out soon, 2500 words and counting. Dreaming big, looking forward and planting those seeds.

[The_StonedTrooper]

I've got a few beans from the 90's from when I started in 1995.

Not sure how fresh they are still as I wasn't thinking back then and just bagged them and put them in a dark place.

Stuff from the Transkei.

Also before the guys started to breed the potent smells out these girls as it was to much of a tell all for neighbors and po po.

Willing to send what I have, not labeled or anything so it lucky bag for what it is...

[John Stonedwell]

@Chris Jay wicked stuff man.

I would love to learn more on the landraces specific to our Southern Africa climate. We all grew up with the terms Swazi, Rooibaard, Malawi Gold thrown around but not really understanding the crucial importance these strains played in the evolution of the cannabis industry.

What project are you currently busy with if you don't mind me asking?

 

[The_StonedTrooper]

I'd love to have the space and time to do breeding and hunt's, and have lots of respect for those who do so.

Also, those beans I have are a wide variety of TK, Swazi, and all sorts, probably more late 80's to mid 90's as I do the math, so basically like @GGG has.

[Chris Jay]

Hey. Thanks for the offer of seeds, and we can definitely talk. Just need to get ducks in a row.

@John Stonedwell African strains are very interesting, like their cannabinoid profiles. Wait until the story of Durban comes out, it hopefully inspires and I think there is an interesting way to get the original Durban Poison back to SA. I am busy writing the fairytale  about DP, where it started,  the journey its taken until now , a couple detours, a few crosses and then it makes it way to maybe the top 5 strains in the world. Its a labour of love and amped that the article has been purchased already. 
 

[The_StonedTrooper]

I'm just happy to help and share, and dont want anything out of it, only make new friendships. 

Respect

[John Stonedwell]

@Chris Jay truly a labour of love and something worth fighting for. 

Durban Poison is that one strain from Africa that got the European tongues wagging throughout the 90's. And as you rightfully said I think there might be some stories to tell in terms of the journey the real og landrace strain took. 

To imagine GSC is supposed to be bred from a DP strain.. I have a friend that has long sought to try and get the closest to the og DP. And from some reading it sounded like Dutch Passion had the closest take to the original so he settled on a batch from them. 

Sad though that there is no local supply of our own local pride..

Edited July 11, 2020 by John Stonedwell

[Chris Jay]

Yip, I would say DP is one of the top 5 strains in the world! There are defiantly local guys breeding DP genetics now that it has become popular, and in demand.  I think it is more marketing than anything. Below is a Lesotho landrace strain ( close to the original DP ) that "we" been growing for a couple of seasons. Lovely producer and closest to sativa I have seen.

 

https://twitter.com/softsecrets_usa/status/1257276817947402240

Edited July 12, 2020 by Chris Jay

[longjohn]

On 7/11/2020 at 4:20 PM, Chris Jay said:

Hey. Thanks for the offer of seeds, and we can definitely talk. Just need to get ducks in a row.

@John Stonedwell African strains are very interesting, like their cannabinoid profiles. Wait until the story of Durban comes out, it hopefully inspires and I think there is an interesting way to get the original Durban Poison back to SA. I am busy writing the fairytale  about DP, where it started,  the journey its taken until now , a couple detours, a few crosses and then it makes it way to maybe the top 5 strains in the world. Its a labour of love and amped that the article has been purchased already. 
 

i got the original Durban poison from a uk seed company   he got the real deal i will put a link to this seed bank

https://www.landraceseeds.co.uk/product-page/durban-poison-landrace-strain

 

[Stinger96]

Morning @Prom How's the hunt going.. any luck yet?

[Stinger96]

I germed 3 of my oldest beans early Feb.. 2 showed face and both turned out to be fem.. Was planning on weaving them together like you see them do with these lollipop trees.. I now have them in the tent.. Curious to see how they turn out.. was more of a bonsai experiment..

If you have some pollen, maybe I could trade you a Banan Monkey Cut for it.. I want some fresh beans..

[Weskush]

I see that GSR sells Regular Rooibaard seeds. Wonder if it is the real deal? Does anybody really know what the real deal actually is..?? I'm ordering some just in case haha.