TheGrowGod Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hey guys In case you guys hadn't noticed, but the quality of the LED panels on the ZA market is far inferior to what's available out there. So I spoke to zane at Hydroherb and he said he'd be willing to import the panels we were interested in granted demand was high enough, or alternatively we could could do a big group buy and get a cheap price on the panels and import them together. So If you are interested in upgrading to the real deal, please comment below with what brand and panel you'd like to have imported/see on the ZA market. The brands iv looked at and seem to be impressed by are the lights from Eshine systems, Bysen LED and Marshydro. Also if you have experience importing such panels could you please comment on your experience and recommendations? The growgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 One of the problems with bringing LED. You don't have tech support. So if you have hardware issues, what do you do? What you need is for some one to be a supplier and service/support. No one likes down time. Just my input... And I'm a die hard HID grower. The technology needs to be solid. More years are needed to prove LED is as good or better than HID. You now get LEP (light emitting plasma) which the growers are swearing by as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hence I thought having one of the hydro stores import them for us would be the best option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaiju Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I do not think the South African market can afford quality LED just the stuff from China. I want to see Diamond Led bought into the country but i want to see someone spend $800 on a 300 watt or even $1400 or a 600 watt. http://www.diamondseriesleds.com/categories/ Or California Lightwork Solar Storm 880. Although LED seems to be the way forward its not really worth it for the SA market. The lights we get from china and those are the only led lights we get, they are just good for vegging in my opinion. I want to see anyone in here show me how a 300watt out performs a 400 watt HPS and if anyone even has a 600 watt LED. Unfortunately we just do not have the type of cash to spend on proper LED name brands that will deliver and outperform a HPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaiju Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 G8 LED Black Dog Apollo Diamond Solastorm Taotronics an Kind LED These are some of the names i want to see being bought into the country lets see if it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Kaiju, I read on a forum somewhere that the diamond series is a rebranded Eshinesystems panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 You can get the Apollo grow lights shipped to SA for free from Ledgrowlights.co.za Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I brought my own LED light in from Gotham Hydro in the States... a Blackstar 240 watt. Set me back about R4000 with shipping etc. So far it's been a great little light, great for clones and has done well vegging a space of about 90cmx60cm. I've had it running almost permanently for a year now.. not a single problem. I've never used it for flowering although I have got it in a tent now combined with a 600 HID. Hoping to start flowering in there by the next week Friday and will see how it goes. I must be honest I don't think it would have the penetration to flower anything over about 50cm in height as the light only has power for a short distance. I should really do a test with it one of these days and see what it can do for flowering. Here's a pic with it next to my HID. You can see by the last pic how far it got the plants without the HID.. I think it did really well. Once I added the HID the growth sped up though obviously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Heard great things about Grow-Blu LED lights as well! Also the Pro-Grow 400 and Pro-Grow 750 have great reputations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 I think the grow blu lights are rebranded cidly panels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al - Hassan Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Lol I was also thinking about bringing some in but I'm too busy. I would go for the Marshydro, have a lot of friends in the US rocking them even for flower and they kick ass. Seen lots of good pics. The rep is a bit hard to get old of though, more of a Skype fan than emails lol Don't know the other brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 *edited* no advertising and please introduce yourself Just a note for you guys who think the American led is better. All led is manufactured in China it's just rebranded or factory branded for the company ordering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Hi Froggy, please Introduce Yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Spoke to sara from mars hydro, she said if i ordered 4 on the 400w mars 2 panels (2 per 120x70 tent) she’d give me the panels for 170$ a pop, and then shipping would cost 380$, but that is shipping that is 7 days . So the total cost would be 1060$ for the 4 panels so about 3k per panel and its almost certainly gonna be better than the local stuff available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Froggy if you can get me a mars hydro panel for about 2300 ill gladly take 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxwell Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 You gotta pay for the panel and shipping right. Then the thing arrives and there is a problem? You gotta pay and mission to ship it back (Assuming they will take it back). I can replace my HID's in an hour. Capacitors, ignitors, bulbs, ballasts etc Can be easily troubleshooted and repaired yourself. JOMO:-peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 You gotta pay for the panel and shipping right. Then the thing arrives and there is a problem? You gotta pay and mission to ship it back (Assuming they will take it back). I can replace my HID's in an hour. Capacitors, ignitors, bulbs, ballasts etc Can be easily troubleshooted and repaired yourself. JOMO:-peace I couldn't agree with you more , that much down time on a critical piece of equipment is scary. My personal option is you will still get more yield of a digital hid , lot of hype around led panels . It's just there grow footprint is terrible. 2 x 1000w digital hid will kick 4 x 400w led panels ass , just my 2 cents Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrowGod Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Think I'm gonna go with the Mars hydro panels, has anyone had experience with them, want to know how many watts I'll be able to have in a 120x70 tent without have heat issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxwell Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 2k on a 400w panel to replace 250 HID. In that tent you'll want two of those panels. Thats 4k on two lights for one space. If you blow that on lighting, it will be worth your while to ensure everything else is also top quality, or else you're just wasting your money. The best lighting won't give you results without everything else being on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I generally would say. Learn how to grow and get the yields you want with technology that works. Then play around with new tech.. You are only as good as your own skill level. Best equipment isn't going to make you grow massive amounts all of a sudden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I have 2 x 300w panels in a tent that size and I am 2 weeks into my first grow with them. 4 Amnesia Haze. Pics of two of them below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxwell Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Wow. That seems excessive? Watch for the light burn, easy to do with LED. Or grow yourself "hash tips" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Wow. That seems excessive? Watch for the light burn, easy to do with LED. Or grow yourself "hash tips" Why do you say it's excessive? The end goal is to be growing 6-8 plants in the tent. There is no heat from the lights on the plant because of the glass cover and two fans in each unit for cooling so how does light burn happen...still new to this so please tell me if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hi bud I am a bit confused here... are u running 600w for seedlings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hi bud I am a bit confused here... are u running 600w for seedlings? Yes. Is it to much. The lights are 40cm above the girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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