PapaSpliff Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Sup guys. Has anyone here heard of and/or dabbled in gardening by the different phases of the moon? Just wanted to hear your thoughts and experiences and learn if there's any truth behind this or if it's just superstition. Peace... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ill_Evan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I've heard of dude's dropping seeds outdoors specifically at full moon, but not sure about anything else. Would be interesting to hear more about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GGG Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Hey hey, yeah there is truth in that, my friend showed me with his tomotoes, planted the one 2 weeks before full moon and then on full moon and the full moon plant was 2 weeks behind but bigger. You actually plant a few days before full moon if its a plant bearing fruits above ground, you want the seed to break open basically on full moon or a day before. The moon pulls it up like the waves with spring tide. That's the way I understand it. Sure some other member will have more knowledge Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fridge Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hi, I plant according to the moon. I germinate my seeds on fullmoon since a few years and had only one dud ever since. Not sure if I was just lucky or if the moon had an influence on that. I like the idea that the moon has an effect on the plants. Plus it's for free, so there's nothing to loose doing it. As far as I know there's little to none studies done on that topic to back up that it actually works. I come from a family of farmers and my forefathers all planted according to the moon and were convinced that it is beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GGG Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 A quick searchhttps://www.gardeningbythemoon.com/moon-phase-gardening/Now I'm interested in the research, will see what I can get Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fridge Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 @GGG, let us know what you'll find out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GGG Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Okay, so far it seems that's there is no hard scientific evidence, just some studies here and there. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Fridgedoor said: Hi, I plant according to the moon. I germinate my seeds on fullmoon since a few years and had only one dud ever since. Not sure if I was just lucky or if the moon had an influence on that. I like the idea that the moon has an effect on the plants. Plus it's for free, so there's nothing to loose doing it. As far as I know there's little to none studies done on that topic to back up that it actually works. I come from a family of farmers and my forefathers all planted according to the moon and were convinced that it is beneficial. I've heard of the "farmer's almanac" that's been used by generations of farmers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Totemic Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 To me it has to do with the moons gravitational effects on water. Full moon draws water up to the surface, and surely affects water in plants too. I plant by the moon, and have found that germination is quicker, seedlings stronger when I plant at full moon compared to any other time of the month. All anecdotal of course. Just part of my seasonal routine. The next full moon is 1 October, and I'll be dropping my first outdoor beans then. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GGG said: A quick searchhttps://www.gardeningbythemoon.com/moon-phase-gardening/ Now I'm interested in the research, will see what I can get Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk Thanks for the info Interesting read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 West Coast Vaper Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 If you look back to the time of Pagans pre christianity, sowing and harvesting all happened around various stages of the moon. There weren't calendars to tell you what to do or apps for reminders.Sent from my DRA-LX5 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 5:34 PM, Totemic said: To me it has to do with the moons gravitational effects on water. Full moon draws water up to the surface, and surely affects water in plants too. I plant by the moon, and have found that germination is quicker, seedlings stronger when I plant at full moon compared to any other time of the month. All anecdotal of course. Just part of my seasonal routine. The next full moon is 1 October, and I'll be dropping my first outdoor beans then. @Totemic thanks for your input Quickfollowup question: On the 1 October (next full moon), would you begin to germinate your seeds (in water/paper towel), OR would you be planting the already germinated seeds into the grow medium?? I'm trying to identify the optimum time according to the moon to germinate my seeds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Totemic Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, PapaSpliff said: @Totemic thanks for your input Quickfollowup question: On the 1 October (next full moon), would you begin to germinate your seeds (in water/paper towel), OR would you be planting the already germinated seeds into the grow medium?? I'm trying to identify the optimum time according to the moon to germinate my seeds... Soak them the night before to plant on the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Totemic said: Soak them the night before to plant on the day. Got it Thanks for the clarity - much appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 5:34 PM, Totemic said: To me it has to do with the moons gravitational effects on water. Full moon draws water up to the surface, and surely affects water in plants too. I plant by the moon, and have found that germination is quicker, seedlings stronger when I plant at full moon compared to any other time of the month. All anecdotal of course. Just part of my seasonal routine. The next full moon is 1 October, and I'll be dropping my first outdoor beans then. Full moon around the corner, can't wait to drop my seeds for my first serious try at growing... Have a great season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Totemic Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, PapaSpliff said: Full moon around the corner, can't wait to drop my seeds for my first serious try at growing... Have a great season You too. May it be the greenest one yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Psylecta Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Hmmmm interesting concept but somewhat on the conspiracy side I reckon, moon/gravity has that effect on large bodies of water, growing up deep sea fishing, i know this & know it does help with catching certain species fish and the wind will always be pumping but effects on waves/water is mainly due its gravitational effect on such a massive volume of water so i highly doubt it would have an effect on such a small amount of water let alone that additional gravitational 'pressure' would make a plant absorb water/make use of it more efficiently than what it would normally would or to the point where it contributes significantly - this is just my opinion, could be wrong, but at the same time if it were the case it would of been widely documented so unless a controlled study is done its merely a coincidental observation Makes me think of those studies/arguments that playing classical music in your indoor grow room will improve growth by double digits, a somewhat similar argument here (and just as interesting actually) Edited September 27, 2020 by Psylecta Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Psylecta Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Its almost like saying I can jump higher (or vice versa) during a full moon, something about it not gelling lekka, even though it seems somewhat plausible, thinking logically the difference in 'energy' output (for lack of a better term) between a full moon and qtr moon for example can't be that significant that it would cause u to jump higher or fall to the ground slower - unless I'm perceiving this entirely wrong? Dont know, lol one things for sure its a headtrip thinking bout it hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Totemic Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) It has to do with even more than just the moon imo. New and full moon phases are such that Earth, Moon, and Sun align. The solar and lunar tides are affected to a point where we visibly see a difference. I would say that's not far off from the circadian rythem we are governed by Ito the phenomenon. But yeah, its bigger than I think we might ever understand, and to prove this we would need a control universe without a moon and sun to provide a factual scientific answer Edited September 28, 2020 by Totemic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PapaSpliff Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Interesting points of view all around... Since I actually planned to start my grow in October, I'm gonna give it a go nevertheless as everything lined up perfectly for me... Happy growing all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nope Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 There is no proven scientific evidence that planting by the cycles of the moon is beneficial. I think if you asked a commercial farmer this question, the reply would be quite amusing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Totemic Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, felix2000 said: There is no proven scientific evidence that planting by the cycles of the moon is beneficial. I think if you asked a commercial farmer this question, the reply would be quite amusing. Here's a thorough scientific look at it. A commercial farmer isnt the right place to ask questions about gravity or spacial bodies... While this paper doesnt address planting by the moon directly, it goes and delves deeper into the actual observed interactions Lunisolar tidal force and the growth of plant roots, and some other of its effects on plant movements It's a long paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394636/ First clip Abstract Background Correlative evidence has often suggested that the lunisolar tidal force, to which the Sun contributes 30 % and the Moon 60 % of the combined gravitational acceleration, regulates a number of features of plant growth upon Earth. The time scales of the effects studied have ranged from the lunar day, with a period of approx. 24·8 h, to longer, monthly or seasonal variations. Scope We review evidence for a lunar involvement with plant growth. In particular, we describe experimental observations which indicate a putative lunar-based relationship with the rate of elongation of roots of Arabidopsis thaliana maintained in constant light. The evidence suggests that there may be continuous modulation of root elongation growth by the lunisolar tidal force. In order to provide further supportive evidence for a more general hypothesis of a lunisolar regulation of growth, we highlight similarly suggestive evidence from the time courses of (a) bean leaf movements obtained from kymographic observations; (b) dilatation cycles of tree stems obtained from dendrograms; and (c) the diurnal changes of wood–water relationships in a living tree obtained by reflectometry. Conclusions At present, the evidence for a lunar or a lunisolar influence on root growth or, indeed, on any other plant system, is correlative, and therefore circumstantial. Although it is not possible to alter the lunisolar gravitational force experienced by living organisms on Earth, it is possible to predict how this putative lunisolar influence will vary at times in the near future. This may offer ways of testing predictions about possible Moon–plant relationships. As for a hypothesis about how the three-body system of Earth–Sun–Moon could interact with biological systems to produce a specific growth response, this remains a challenge for the future. Plant growth responses are mainly brought about by differential movement of water across protoplasmic membranes in conjunction with water movement in the super-symplasm. It may be in this realm of water movements, or even in the physical forms which water adopts within cells, that the lunisolar tidal force has an impact upon living growth systems. Edited September 28, 2020 by Totemic 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nope Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Totemic said: Here's a thorough scientific look at it. A commercial farmer isnt the right place to ask questions about gravity or spacial bodies... While this paper doesnt address planting by the moon directly, it goes and delves deeper into the actual observed interactions Lunisolar tidal force and the growth of plant roots, and some other of its effects on plant movements It's a long paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394636/ First clip Abstract Background Correlative evidence has often suggested that the lunisolar tidal force, to which the Sun contributes 30 % and the Moon 60 % of the combined gravitational acceleration, regulates a number of features of plant growth upon Earth. The time scales of the effects studied have ranged from the lunar day, with a period of approx. 24·8 h, to longer, monthly or seasonal variations. Scope We review evidence for a lunar involvement with plant growth. In particular, we describe experimental observations which indicate a putative lunar-based relationship with the rate of elongation of roots of Arabidopsis thaliana maintained in constant light. The evidence suggests that there may be continuous modulation of root elongation growth by the lunisolar tidal force. In order to provide further supportive evidence for a more general hypothesis of a lunisolar regulation of growth, we highlight similarly suggestive evidence from the time courses of (a) bean leaf movements obtained from kymographic observations; (b) dilatation cycles of tree stems obtained from dendrograms; and (c) the diurnal changes of wood–water relationships in a living tree obtained by reflectometry. Conclusions At present, the evidence for a lunar or a lunisolar influence on root growth or, indeed, on any other plant system, is correlative, and therefore circumstantial. Although it is not possible to alter the lunisolar gravitational force experienced by living organisms on Earth, it is possible to predict how this putative lunisolar influence will vary at times in the near future. This may offer ways of testing predictions about possible Moon–plant relationships. As for a hypothesis about how the three-body system of Earth–Sun–Moon could interact with biological systems to produce a specific growth response, this remains a challenge for the future. Plant growth responses are mainly brought about by differential movement of water across protoplasmic membranes in conjunction with water movement in the super-symplasm. It may be in this realm of water movements, or even in the physical forms which water adopts within cells, that the lunisolar tidal force has an impact upon living growth systems. I'll read this as soon as i get done with the morning chaos. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nope Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) After doing some searching, the answer to whether this practice is beneficial or not is clear as mud. While i do not deny any person their beliefs, this practice is not something i would consider following. If you do a search you only come up with gardening pages, which brings me to my comment about commercial farmers. Surely, if there are measurable benefits to be gained by using this practice, ALL commercial farmers would be looking to take advantage. After all, marginal gains can really boost profitability when you are planting 50 hectares at a time. Anyway, this is my opinion based on the searches i did in a short amount of time. My personality type requires facts, and there seems to be piles on piles of Woo-Woo pertaining to this subject. I tried conceptualizing a trial protocol to test this theory, but there are far to many vectors which can affect the outcome on a small scale trial. Genetics, media variances, environmental conditions and of course, you have to run the trails over different periods and it is impossible to have a control. In closing, you need to do what makes you happy! PEAS! Edited September 30, 2020 by felix2000 potato gramma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Has anyone here heard of and/or dabbled in gardening by the different phases of the moon?
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and experiences and learn if there's any truth behind this or if it's just superstition.
Peace...
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