Totemic Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Time to make yourself heard on the proposed bill guys. https://dearsouthafrica.co.za/cannabis/ Actual link to comment to parliament below https://pmg.org.za/call-for-comment/968/ Edited September 9, 2020 by Totemic 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Wonder if it will make any difference, we can hope. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG420za Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 i've added my 2c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I wrote my suggestion.. follow California.. treat it same as alcohol and tobacco.. generate tax and jobs instead of more police work load. but not sure what difference that page does ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Made my say remove the limits to the amount of plants and cannabis allowed on one's property. Limits should only be for public spaces. There are no limits to the amount of alcohol or amount of bottles of alcohol one may have at home, or even a limit to how much moonshine one may produce, yet the commercial alcohol industry thrives without competition from the public, think 'craft beers'. They know that the cannabis market is solely in the black market at the moment so this bill is to prevent this thriving market from being a competition to the forthcoming legal cannabis industry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibiru Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Added my 2c. I might have been a little bit too sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nibiru said: I might have been a little bit too sarcastic. They did say you could use any language 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Here is the actual link for direct comment https://pmg.org.za/call-for-comment/968/ Comments can be sent to Mr V Ramaano at cannabisbill@parliament.gov.za by no later than 16:00 on 30 September 2020. Edited September 9, 2020 by Totemic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Totemic said: Here is the actual link for direct comment https://pmg.org.za/call-for-comment/968/ Comments can be sent to Mr V Ramaano at cannabisbill@parliament.gov.za by no later than 16:00 on 30 September 2020. Thanks, have sent an email to that email address as well basically stating the same. Although it bounced back. WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah, I too got a bounce back. I'll keep trying, aswell as searching for any other contact info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, PsyCLown said: Although it bounced back. WTF. 1 hour ago, Totemic said: Yeah, I too got a bounce back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Made a call, and got a direct email address for submissions vramaano@parliament.gov.za 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Any feedback on this regard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I see it has been extended to 9 October and I believe it HAS to be sent to cannabisbill@parliament.gov.za only. So anyone who has sent an email to vramaano@parliament.gov.za will need to resend it to cannabisbill@parliament.gov.za No more bounce back from the cannabisbill email address. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Quote Committee chairperson Bulelani Magwanishe says cannabis farmers from the Eastern Cape requested a six-month extension for comment, but the committee was not prepared to entertain this. The committee will, however, only be able to start work on the Bill next year, as it must first process legislation aimed at strengthening the fight against gender-based violence.Committee chairperson Bulelani Magwanishe says cannabis farmers from the Eastern Cape requested a six-month extension for comment, but the committee was not prepared to entertain this. The committee will, however, only be able to start work on the Bill next year, as it must first process legislation aimed at strengthening the fight against gender-based violence. https://ewn.co.za/2020/10/09/cannabis-bill-deadline-for-comment-extended/amp Seems like we are going to be in limbo for the foreseeable future. Grow as much as you want while you still can 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORGANinc. Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 They talk as if this bill is enforceable at the end. Ewn mxm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylecta Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 @ORGANinc.Cops are still busting though, saw a link in the clone group yesterday morning about a raid in cpt - think it was 200 lil 10g bags and some cash, allegedly a 'foreign national' growop - judging by pic they clearly were dealing but it goes to show that all it takes is pissing off the neighbours for kak to hit the fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Psylecta said: @ORGANinc.Cops are still busting though, saw a link in the clone group yesterday morning about a raid in cpt - think it was 200 lil 10g bags and some cash, allegedly a 'foreign national' growop - judging by pic they clearly were dealing but it goes to show that all it takes is pissing off the neighbours for kak to hit the fan 99% of busts are tip-offs. Also, can't get busted if you don't do illegal things. In the context of the thread, I can't say for certain I have seen or heard anyone being arrested or busted for growing purely recreationally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylecta Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said: 99% of busts are tip-offs. Also, can't get busted if you don't do illegal things. In the context of the thread, I can't say for certain I have seen or heard anyone being arrested or busted for growing purely recreationally. I completely agree 185% lmao, if anyone gets busted for growing recreationally that's called getting screwed over not being caught...moral of the story be extra nice to the wife & neighbours Enforcement is a major issue though I though the whole point of decriminalization was to avoid us being subjected to having our personal rights violated with unjustified criminal records & alleviate the enormous burden on tax & prison systems - from what I understand being over your plant limit regardless of total weight will constitute trafficing & earn a 15 year sentence!?? Wtf?! Why can't we have a bill that isn't shrouded in ambiguity & flawed to hell & back --- #doitrightfirsttime.ffs Spoke to my cousin in Toronto this week regarding this, there everyone is allowed 4 plants no license, if you want/need more plants for whatever reason you apply & pay for a grow license....simple & effective, no kak n hare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Psylecta said: I completely agree 185% lmao, if anyone gets busted for growing recreationally that's called getting screwed over not being caught...moral of the story be extra nice to the wife & neighbours Enforcement is a major issue though I though the whole point of decriminalization was to avoid us being subjected to having our personal rights violated with unjustified criminal records & alleviate the enormous burden on tax & prison systems - from what I understand being over your plant limit regardless of total weight will constitute trafficing & earn a 15 year sentence!?? Wtf?! Why can't we have a bill that isn't shrouded in ambiguity & flawed to hell & back --- #doitrightfirsttime.ffs Spoke to my cousin in Toronto this week regarding this, there everyone is allowed 4 plants no license, if you want/need more plants for whatever reason you apply & pay for a grow license....simple & effective, no kak n hare I agree. There shouldn't be any jailtime at all. If you break the rules then maybe a fine or something light, just as long as you are not dealing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 9:46 AM, Totemic said: Time to make yourself heard on the proposed bill guys. https://dearsouthafrica.co.za/cannabis/ Actual link to comment to parliament below https://pmg.org.za/call-for-comment/968/ The best is to send your comments to Dear South Africa. They explain that they keep a legal record and present it to the Ministry or whoever. The mailboxes at Parliament mostly don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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