ORGANinc. Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, CG420za said: Oh god, don't get me started on this shit. Some of these kids are a waste of air and water. I blame the parents. Parents are always the first logical people to look at. Maybe they just don't care enough, or stopped caring as much. Comparing the youth of today to the youth of yesterday if you will, is a broad topic. I do not think it is a fair comparison any which way you look at it. The youth are primarily a product of what they are most focused during their upbringing. I'm sure the world is way more fucked up than it was a generation ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG420za Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Personally, i feel that these parents either care too much or don't care at all. Kids are either getting babied to the extreme or abandoned. Like there's no middle ground. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) I blame the media. The media that feeds issues in order for these issues to seem bigger than they actually are. Big issues sell better. Chris, I hope they'll leave you alone eventually. I get the idea that the cannabis community is generally an awesome subculture full of good people. Just as soon as money gets involved things turn south. People get greedy. Edit: I blame the government too. Edited March 12, 2021 by Fridge 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chris Jay said: Insinuating on multiple posts, I am cooked, repeating do you know what the definition of insanity is, no proper input, just one liners, you get my drift. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 Quote Chris, I hope they'll leave you alone eventually. I get the idea that the cannabis community is generally an awesome subculture full of good people. I dont really give two hoots, I would like a peaceful life though for myself and others. But my advice will hopefully help you guys focus on your goals and dreams, without interference from trouble. Damn, some of the best people I have met in life, best times, and some of the worst, but always fun, good laughs and memories with more to come. Going to an amazing hippie now, the real old hippie type. Literally building new roads with some shale she is sharing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nope Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Fridge said: I get the idea that the cannabis community is generally an awesome subculture full of good people. Just as soon as money gets involved things turn south. People get greedy. Edit: I blame the government too. Its not the money, it's the caliber of people riding the money train. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris Jay said: I can assure you they have been linked up to this thread. JP might be a bit slower, his last screenshot he sent me, I giggled, it was of my profile on FB and the top it said, only 20mb left. Cannabis community is very small, and most guys are online. IG seems to be the place now, but forums like this do get covered well. They will come like moths to a flame, and I am ready for the minions of followers who I will try their pot luck at me. I just wanna kindly ask that you please keep the trolls away from here. If this thread turns into some shit show online wild west I'm gonna remove it. The forum isn't here for that. You have FB and IG for that 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stonedwell Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, 420SA said: I just wanna kindly ask that you please keep the trolls away from here. If this thread turns into some shit show online wild west I'm gonna remove it. The forum isn't here for that. You have FB and IG for that Too true. That's why I don't have either of the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Adansonia digitata said: Its not the money, it's the caliber of people riding the money train. I agree with you generally, but I have seen people turning from friends to enemies as soon as money got involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nope Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fridge said: I agree with you generally, but I have seen people turning from friends to enemies as soon as money got involved. Ego.... The common denominator. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, 420SA said: I just wanna kindly ask that you please keep the trolls away from here. If this thread turns into some shit show online wild west I'm gonna remove it. The forum isn't here for that. You have FB and IG for that I agree, and FB/IG is not for that either. But please dont remove the topic, consider closing it. Quote Its not the money, it's the caliber of people riding the money train. 420%, but what is ironic, they not earning the money either. Quote Ego.... The common denominator. Not from my part, I usually block trolls quickly on all platforms. But when you are threatened, insulted, stalked you have to draw a line somewhere, and also share for the benefit of the greater cannabis community. Edited March 12, 2021 by Chris Jay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Dem trolls are out, leading me closer to the honeypot. Check this email I just received from NORML HQ: Quote Chris, Please submit the NORML Chapter Information Update Form ASAP. I’d like to get NORML South Africa into compliance so we can provide updated brand assets and list the chapter on our website. We get inquiries about the chapter and there seems to be a lot of confusion as to whether or not this is a functional chapter or a page promoting brands. Thanks for your prompt attention to this. Anyway, they can keep coming, I just hope they will show face oneday, probably not, cause that is what fakes do. If you questioning if NORML is functional, you speaking with the wrong people. On the ground, blazing some serious trails as we have done since 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stefan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) @Chris Jay remain humble and ignore ‘trolls’ as much as possible sometimes these things can be used for positive growth. When I was 14, my friends and I were caught smoking weed. As I was the one who bought the weed, I was blamed although we all smoked. Anyway, the chatter among the parents was that I came from a broken home(because my father died when I was 8 and my mother remarried), and later (18) was told that I shouldn’t study law. Anyway I took that and completed my LLB before any of my friends completed their 3 year degrees/diplomas, on top of that the person saying I don’t have what it takes to be a lawyer called me a few months ago to draft a business proposal. I took all that hate and turned into personal growth. we all still best friends and all their parents see me as the one with his head screwed on correctly. A complete u-turn which brings me joy, confidence and security with myself Edited March 24, 2021 by Stefan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 1:41 PM, Stefan said: I took all that hate and turned into personal growth Hate can be an amazing energy when used correctly and channeled into the right direction. Quote remain humble and ignore ‘trolls’ as much as possible sometimes Oh yes best advice with trolls is to block and terminate all contact as quickly as possible. However I have a couple of trolls that one could classify as cyberstalking/bullying. Take JP Ras Victor, he has stalked me for years, 9th of Feb this year, he created a new FB profile, Oliver Visage, to send me messages. He has done this for about 5 years now. My reaction was block and notify friends in common of the fake profile. If you should listen and see some of the conversations, audio recordings you can probably realise how paranoid people can get from this type of behavior online, and worse when its targeted towards children. Quote one with his head screwed on correctly. So as a lawyer, what kind of advice would you give to be people being stalked/bullied online?"According to a 2018 report by research company Ipsos Global Advisor, South Africa has the highest prevalence of cyberbullying out of 28 countries surveyed." "“cyberbullying is when someone repeatedly makes fun of another person online or repeatedly picks on another person through email or text message or when someone posts something online about another person that they don’t like.” Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Cyber bullying is a relatively new thing so not 100% certain on what the procedure would be but In guessing it amounts to harassment and likely would have to report it to the Police. whilst the police are investigating, you could probably open up a protection order against the person you feel is harassing/cyber bullying you. I think you’ll be provided with a temporary protection(you’d need the accused full name and address in order for this to issued) instructing the person to refrain from the unwanted actions until the matter can be heard before magistrates court. Although you’ll appear in the magistrates court, it’s not necessary that you’d require an attorney for this, the court will appoint like a maintenance officer to hear the matter so can be quite informal where the maintenance officer plays more an active role in hearing with relaxed evidential burdens so you’d need not to worry of legal costs The tricky part to this would be proving the harassment and as you say the person changes and creates different profiles and likely anonymous online and even thereafter if it’s granted, how would you actually stop the harassment? As it would be so difficult to prove as the burden of proof would therefore change as it would now be a criminal matter. On the cuff I’m thinking you’d need have IP addresses to actually prove the person you claim is indeed the same online person harassing you but that’s a whole different story and not sure how that would even be done. I used to work at one of those legal insurance places where we offer members advice and ‘mediation’ and 9/10 times harassment cases could be halted with simple warning letter instructing the person to stop or legal action will be taken. May try this approach to just nip it in the bud, but I guess the letter drafted on a legal company letterhead probably more likely did the trick, but something less energy draining so you could give it try. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 Many thanks for your sound advice @Stefan, I will use this in the future and also refer a friend/activist who opened a case just last week against someone that I mentioned on here earlier. Cant wait to see him fried, hope he does not withdraw charges and goes the full hog. The troll publicly posted revolting/false information about him on FB, which I know can lead to a successful case and has been tried in court. JUst sad that wannebe activists are speaking like this about guys doing the hard hog. The essence of trolling below, 5000 friends and all she/he/it shares is memes and auntie gossip. Delete, block, see you in the dust. Sorry I had to go silent on this post for a number of reasons but leaving it here is a reference for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Wake up this morning to a whatsapp about Garden Route Genetics ( Josh the "breeder") on a troll mission again. Kind message posted to an IG profile and bang, troll has to comment. Its very sad really that a boy who lives at home with his parents feels like he can troll someone for no reason. His only reason for trolling was that I tagged his business ( GRG ) and his mothers business in a IG post. Thats when he sent me this audio recording, which I saved before he managed to delete it. Well he mentioned I do more reporting of people than promoting, how badly he got that wrong. Sad sod will have an article published shortly. Oh the reason I mention his enabling mom is cause she tried to pan him off to me many years ago to do some hard labour, believe me or not here is her message a couple moons ago. Another troll I mentioned in a previous post in this topic, who was a member here ( Alemo ), currently has a crimina injura charge against him for publically posting about another activist recently. The charges are being pursued and with good reason. Have a peaceful weekend, thanks for reading my daily BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weskush Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Jere this mother only has herself to blame for raising such n slegte bliksem. Hope that you can teach this character some respect that his mother didn't succeed in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 You are spot on. Got a beautiful lesson coming, happy to make time for this troll now and hopefully save others the effort. Winding up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 This is not my battle but as soon as the troll realises I posted, flames, this post really hits home about kindness. The rotten troll Riaan VD, literally thinks he can tell people who to speak to, how to speak with people, and this is a form of cyber bullying for a number of reasons I wont elaborate on. But 420% respect for the replies. Imagine witch hunting a guy for 5 years and still getting no where. Wish this guy would find better things to do than try and bully people, absolute knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris Jay Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 Come on Ill_Evan, this is your favorite topic by far. I hope you swallow too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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