Lemon Gorilla Og...🤣

[Bay Seeds]

We smoked some of this Lemon Gorilla og last night. Very nice terps, like candy and couchlock. 

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Wel the F1 is definately potent enough for me.. Im exited about the f2 and will concentrate on getting a more smelly pheno to cross with.. It's almost where I would like it but not yet.. The reject f2's are comming allong great and is grown outdoors.. They are purely for testing and only stand outs will be kept. The good seed will be kept for germination end of next month..

 

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

The babies are battered by the current cold front coming through the Cape area.. I took them in as to not loose them completely.. They cept up fine but I don't want to have them drown.. 

 

[Weskush]

Ja nee Kyk this Cape storm is moering my outdoor at the moment. Batten down the hatches!!

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Tomorrow we should have a nice break in the weather front then back in it on Saturday and Sunday. Next week seem to fairly good again..

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

So the little LGO F2's were put outside on Saturdaybmorning again. The next few days seem to be fairly sunny and hot.. Luckily for them.. They not showing anny signs of drowning yet.. Thank goodness.. The cold has stunted them for sure though.. 

Birds ate and pulled out 4 seedlings.. Only the strong and lucky survive..

[Twix Aphen]

On 2/28/2021 at 10:13 PM, GreenGrow Garden Route said:

Cut the bottom  of the bag open.. Turned it around slip it over the plant and closed the Ziploc to the stem.. Helps catching pollen.

Hello growmie, this is very helpful info. I put the bag over, sealed up the Ziploc, but didn't cut open the bottom of the bankie. I knew I hadn't done it right because of the condensation inside.

I usually just cut off the flower and shake the pollen into a container, but a cloud of pollen flies into the air. Your method is much better, I just need to learn how to get it right.

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

It works well.. I collected pollin out of the bag for about a week while polinating the girls.. I had him completely seperated from the grow room though.. I used the 1L freezer zip lock bag.. Gives more space around the flower.

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

The little ones are strugling allong.. The cold is really getting to them. I spotted the first male today.. Hell be culled tomorrow.

[The_StonedTrooper]

On 7/4/2021 at 12:16 PM, GreenGrow Garden Route said:

Only the strong and lucky survive..

That, or the least tasty

Love how they are praying already

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[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Man o man did these little ones have a hard few weeks.. Over watering due to rain and ontop of that the severe cold.. Have one male and 5 girls.. This is now all about getting some seeds of the f2 and growing them out before doing a propper run for the f3 line..

 

[Bay Seeds]

Looks like his grandfather

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

The male did his job and was eliminated.. The remaining girls are fully loaded.. These supposidly f3s will be grown during the coarse of the Outdoor season as a test. Remember these were the reject beans so the real pheno hunt and proper pollination for f3 might only be done next season. This was just a teaser to myself to more or less guage if it is actually worth it to go forward.. This is a game for the guys and gals in the know..

[Weskush]

So to get this right. I'm new to breeding and tried a couple of crosses which went fairly well. Not a ton of seeds but enough to work with.

F1 is the result of the first cross between two different strains.

F2 is crossing the F1's and F3 is crossing the F2's with each other? What is back crossing then?

And F3 is more stable than F2 and F1 and so forth?

I know this has been discussed before but can't find the thread.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Weskush

[Stinger96]

@Totemic Back crossing as far as my limited knowledge goes is really to strenthen some trait you like.. Could be completely wrong here.. I'm not there yet and might never be..

[Weskush]

7 minutes ago, Stinger96 said:

@Totemic Back crossing as far as my limited knowledge goes is really to strenthen some trait you like.. Could be completely wrong here.. I'm not there yet and might never be..

Eg. crossing a F3 with a F3? But doesn't that result in a F4?

Sorry to hi-jack your thread @GreenGrow Garden Route

Edited August 27, 2021 by Weskush

[GGG]

Let's wait for the breeders , think back crossing is when you use the original or the F1 and cross with F3 for instance

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[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Yeah.. The thing is with breeding.. it becomes real involved.. I enjoy playing with it a bit and I like indoor and outdoor growing and I'm mediocre at most.. But I really enjoy it.. My main thing is not growing.. But supplying good quality medium ext. to growers that like a, more or less, no fuss grow and still enjoy good quality home grown that might not be a cup winner, but really satisfies.. I've grown several of the forum members creations and not once have I been dissapointed.. Our local breeders have no need to feel inferior to anny... 

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

1 hour ago, Weskush said:

Eg. crossing a F3 with a F3? But doesn't that result in a F4?

Sorry to hi-jack your thread @GreenGrow Garden Route

Yes it does but I think pheno playes a major role to. Selecting the correct partners and all and all.. This is a topic in itself.. Maybe the masters could start a thread on the toppic.. It woild be real informative..

[Totemic]

Back crossing is when you cross an F3 for eg. Back to one of the parents. Not just any plant from the same F2 generation, but the exact parent plant(usually the male, but you can reverse backcross onto a female too) 

You'd do this because a trait(most likely recessive) has popped up in the F3 based on your male selections that you'd like to see more often in the next generation. 

The goal is to ensure you get a double copy of the gene expression to make it dominant. 

Backcrossing is a way of stabilizing and locking in traits. 

It's interesting to note that a backcross brings as much stability as 3 filial generations worth of selections. 

What makes breeding a challenge is that while you are trying to select for good traits, there are undesirable traits that need eliminating too, so a backcross does not translate to a good cross necessarily and selections will always be important.

Edited August 28, 2021 by Totemic

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

So the girls are about a week away from being harvested.. maybe 2.. Was not a successful run at all. The girls had it a bit rough. But will love to see what offspring I get..

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

So the F3 testers were harvested. Have not done a count yet but it looks to close to a 100 or so beans. These will be grown to see if the LGO has become stable at all. Had a good puff on the left overs and I'm satisfied with the terpene profile and kick.. If anny body in Cape Town is keen on trying these I'll be more than happy to share. 40 beans up for grabs.. Have a awesome weekend growmies..

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Awe, stoked we can go forward on the forum @DesignatedDave Jou yster.

What a wild few years it's been, wow.. 

So at long last I am at this girl again.. Struggling with the germination as the beans truely have not been kept under the optimum conditions unfortunately.

Have a few F2 and F3s on the go and will finally decide if she's worth keeping. After working with a few hard hitting legendary strains in the past few years it might be hard for me to admit she does not tick the boxes, but let's see.

@Bay Seeds

Knocking it out the park lately buddy..

 

Below a few picks of the babies and what I worked with the last few years.  

Happy flowering season guys and gals..

Let's see what the male to female rates gonna be.

SSC- @Totemic

Orange Velvet Underground Ethos

Boo Berry Cookies-Ethos 

Crescendo Ethos

GG#4 

[AK-47 Gold Arabesque]

Sick to see some Ethos genetics! 

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

8 minutes ago, AK-47 Gold Arabesque said:

Sick to see some Ethos genetics! 

They LAF.. Sure. Not stable though. Out of a pack of five, chances are you have 5 phenos.