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[Martin7318]

Happy Friday mense! Some good OLD PHFat.

Oh and of course some Parow. 

 

Edited October 15, 2021 by Martin7318

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[Naughty.Psychonaut]

@PsyCLown aweee brother lekker lekker early Saturday morning power  

I don't always have the time to swing by this thread, but every now and then when I do, boy oh boy  

loving all the tech vibes you bring man, perfect for blasting it in the background while getting my hands dirty in the garden! I fell inlove with D&B as a kid till one of my older sisters' boyfriends gave me a trance CD somwhere around 2000, naturally went through a phase in school where everyone frowned upon anything techno and before I knew it 80% of our matric group wanted to go hang out at trance parties cause it's the new "cool" thing. shit became comercialised this was around the time dubstep became big and trance became more like D&B to attract the massive crowds. skrillex with his weird stuff made a flash bang on the scene with his hyper dubstep overkill mixing almost all the techno in some mechanical techno sound orgy and just ruined it for everyone. I couldn't listen to a D&B song without a 1min dubstep cut somewhere in it or a poor example of a trance beat ruining the whole song. and I love techno, I just don't know what the hell that was..... anyway, these days we see people conserving these technical genres and keeping them seperate. this is pure D&B man, clean and classic.  

when I'm feeling real willy nilly I pomp the high tech, I like the music to give a forresty swampy vibe, don't know if you're into trance at all, but here's one for you  

 

[PsyCLown]

@Naughty.Psychonaut You're calling it trance, that is psytrance IMO.

Trance I feel is the stuff from back in the day with ATB, Armin van Buren, Above and Beyond. I feel it has kinda died and people moved on though. Music change and evolved and that did not carry through.

 

I use to love Psytrance, however it gets a bit too repetitive, especially when one goes to a festival as it's just that rolling bass the whole time. The track you posted is cool though.

Reminds me of some of the Infected Mushroom stuff. Daydin and Neelix also have some nicer stuff which isn't just that rolling bass the whole time. If I am at a festival, I am not at the Psytrance stage which is often the main stage. I'd rather make my way over to the House, Techno or D&B stage. If it is just Psytrance, I do not go.

 

There has also been quite a bit of mixing of genres which I am not against at all.

I feel this is a good example of such as well. Coming Soon also have some good stuff.

 

 

[Naughty.Psychonaut]

I get you, yeah early trance was a different thing to the song I posted, the CD I mentioned that was given to me around 2000 did not contain the song I posted, it was a GOA Gill CD. pure as trance could be. Trance grew from GOA music which was psychedelic in itself, so trance can't really be trance if it's not "psytrance". it's just another form of the word. depending on who you ask. 

Sooo I technically did not call that trance, I did kinda mention "high tech" before that song, but that's also not high tech either. It's just a good tech song. 

I have to say, to me, old school trance such as armin and those guys, even the GOA Gil cd I recieved, all have very little technical style to their sounds and a more pronounced "doef doef doef" with no other sounds in between, just sounds like a slowed down version of trances' rolling bass, accentuating how repetetive it is. that rolling bass resides in all techno, but atleast with high tech you get a little extra... old school trance didn't quite have the right computer programs to write such intricate tech music and therefor sounded a lot more repetetive than todays trance, because it was slower and less sounds. like the house and d&b we get today. 

I saw Coming Soon live a number of years back at one of the Alien Safari trance party here in CPT. it's trance alright, got some tech here and there, but because of the mix of over commercialised music it attracted the wrong crowds. it was a nightmare of an event. half the people had their tents cut open and shit taken out, a lot of fights broke out, some people got stabbed.... some shit you'll never see at a true trance party.... 

The new school "psytrance" side of tech does not allow overly commercial music, because of the crowds it attracts. There is a small group of about 100 to 200 people here in CPT that get together every now and then through invites only and we moer the trance trance. No mix music. 

I guess to me the most important part is the technical stuff, I really don't mind the bass roll but it must just be a little faster and accompanied with other sounds. trance really have come a long long way since the likes of those coming soon guys. they are ou nuus my bra, they don't even play trance parties anymore and should be concidered house music these days with their mixes. 

check out some of these guys. 

completely different thing all together.

[PsyCLown]

 

@Naughty.Psychonaut Not really the stuff I listen to anymore. A little bit now and then is fine, but I think I may have screwed myself over by going to ESP as often as I use to a few years back.

It just got a bit much and I started venturing away from the psytrace / goa / High Tech stage - whatever you wanna call it. I feel one could clump it under Psytrance with the various sub-genres like more music genres have.

 

Drum n Bass is no difference with the jump up, jungle and liquid sub-genres.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find Drum n Bass and the sub-genres to be quite varied and I enjoy that. It even gets a bit commercial at times.

 

The exact same happens with techno too, quite a few sub-genres.

 

Now what you call techno, is it what I call techno?

Keeping in mind you do get different types of techno.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The above to me is what I would classify as techno.

Quite a few dislike it and find it too repetitive and it can be at times, but it does not have to be.

 

House, well, soo many sub genres there but I do enjoy some more housey music as well.

[Naughty.Psychonaut]

Yebo, all those can be thrown under the same name, but I feel trance is -to a broad extent- a sub genre of techno. or not?

over the last 5 to 10 years "trance" morphed into all kinds of different things aswell, if you go to a trance party now a days they play different kinds of trance. there are even specific "progressive trance parties" "goa trance parties" "minimal trance parties" "dark psytrance parties" "high tech trance parties" that people attend specifically to hear a specific kind of trance, you'll never hear a "progressive trance" song playing at a high tech party. people will leave. so it is really far from all being the same. "techno music" is a very broad term itself. it's a term that gained traction in the mid to late 80's when more and more music was produced using only or mostly instruments that didn't have only an aucustic output, for once, but rather needed electricity to function at all. it was made possible by the technological revolution, giving us techno music. then it became all the other things we have today made in the same way, but sounds different. let's not forget rave 

trance itself is a sub genre that adapted a lot of "spiritual" meaning and followers and I've noticed that they like to keep all things trance related as positive as they can for the moment being and there's a growing number of people that feel quite strongly about not letting the genres mix, not cause of the quality of the music, but sadly because of the whole before mentioned thing... It's not like trance has always been about keeping it pure and turning their backs on the world, I mean look at the Coming Soon guys, mixing kanye into their trance. The thing is, the spiritual people really want as little as possible negative energies around and the best way to achieve this is to not argue with them to change their ways, but rather to play a certain kind of music they don't care to understand or like. Now that we have seen what happens when the event gets advertised like a whore around christmas, such as EDM festivals, we rather wana keep "trance" what it is, and keep the mix stuff out, if someone comes with a commercial mix they will not be playing a trance party. hopefully soon they'll keep their music pure or rather start wanting to only play at electro dance events where they are welcome.

I been to a couple electro dance festivals myself, their trance stages have real poo music playing man. the poorest examples of trance out there. trance can be a lot of things, but any bit of commercial mix in it makes it house music. I'm also retired from the scene, long before covid came along I stopped wasting my time and money on events. just like to throw a lekker beat through the speakers every now and then like I said when I feel all willy nilly, though the more repetetive it is to me the less chance I will listen to it, like those last few songs you posted. I started the first 20 seconds of the first one, had to put it off. 

the d&b you posted first is nice though

[Naughty.Psychonaut]

I believe when I referred to "tech" you thought I was saying techno, but I mean more "technical" as in "higher level of difficulty or intricacy" as I believe all the genres we are discussing falls under techno anyway.

there are even techno stuff that come from minimal techno producers that have some slight technical vibes, but it's toooo slow for me! now speed this one up and it will already sound more technical, add some sounds in the right places and make it sound good. then we got something going  

 

[PsyCLown]

@Naughty.Psychonaut I agree with you there and have also noticed that trance is split into many sub-genres or whatever you want to call them and people can get rather fussy with what is being played.

However some people and events do not care and it is changes as the DJ changes. lol

 

Tech and Techno, didn't get them mixed up. You used both though.

I feel the genres and sub-genres exist to help people make mention of a specific type of music.

If we classified all electronic music under Techno or all Trance music just under Trance then it becomes a bit of a shit show. Talking to people about music and you're both talking about totally different genres, like one talking about some house music and the other hardstyle. lol

 

Minimal can be cool too and is rather close to techno. It generally is a slower music, like house.

Techno, minimal and even house at times can be rather repetitive however I think that is what most enjoy about it and techno in particular can have a driving beat to it and it makes it easier to dance to.

 

I find some of the mixes you posted a bit too repetitive for me, skip through it and it does change a bit but overall is a lot of the same. There are aspects of it which I do still enjoy and I could jam to it for a bit but I would struggle to do so for an extended period of time.

 

One of the best parts about music is that it varies and there is likely something out there for everyone to enjoy. There is a lot of music out there which I do not enjoy, it is just too slow or boring but its really popular shit and others enjoy it a lot.

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[Chris Jay]

Got goofed yesterday and pretended to do some work and created a little music/info video for a cannabis community member. Light it up, drop buds not bombs. 
 

 

[PsyCLown]

Just started listening to this, really enjoying it so far.

 

 

[Chris Jay]

 

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@Chris Jay Never heard of those guys before, but they're pretty cool. Will have a listen to more of their stuff sometime.

 

 

[Chris Jay]

17 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Never heard of those guys before, but they're pretty cool. Will have a listen to more of their stuff sometime.

 If you listen to their music you will know they have worked with some big labels. Interesting characters. Enjoy. 

 

 

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[Chris Jay]

 

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Really cool mix!