Psy's auto grow

[PsyCLown]

So a quick update, I have had to put the autos into the flower tent so they are on a 12 / 12 light cycle too.

 

OG Kush - I really like this plant so far, the way it grows, the frost is decent (for an auto), the darker coloured bud looks great and makes the trichs pop. Even has a nice fade going.

 

 

Gelato - it takes it's time, at least this pheno does. Looking much better but I am hoping the buds will swell still and gain a bit of fatness.

 

Pluto cut - the leaves are quite peculiar in terms of their colour and the way they're dieing off. Seems alright but not quite exceptional, one of the larger autos out of this run.

 

LSD 25 - I like the colour. Quite leafy though.

 

 

The other smaller two auto's I ended up giving away.

 

@Ill_Evan how is your auto looking?  

[Ill_Evan]

On 4/9/2021 at 8:51 AM, PsyCLown said:

@Ill_Evan how is your auto looking?

Pluto Cut

Ja no I wouldn't do this strain outdoors again  I heard Ethos could be finicky and that only the most perfect environments will do and I can see why. Out of all the outdoor plants I've grown this Pluto Cut has come out the worst. A lot of the plant is littered with powdery mildew, while the other outdoor plants I have are all sitting pretty.

I will say though, the actual buds are very sticky and smells very pleasing. I am going to have to give the buds a proper wash at harvest.

(sorry about the sideways pics, they are being automatically rotated as I upload and I've tried long enough to fix it )

[Prom]

1 hour ago, Ill_Evan said:

(sorry about the sideways pics, they are being automatically rotated as I upload and I've tried long enough to fix it )

Tried to take the pic with your phone side ways? 

[PsyCLown]

So these auto's are taking their time to finish flowering, checked the trichomes last night with a microscope and still lots of clear, a little bit of milky but pretty much no amber at all.

I will likely look at harvesting them at the end of April, first week of May latest.

 

LSD-25:

 

 

Pluto Cut:

 

 

 

Gelato:

 

OG Kush, I still think it's such a beautiful looking plant:

[CreX]

ooooo makes me eager for my OG Kush to finish up flowering!! that dark lady looks superb!

[PsyCLown]

So I did the maths and seems I am the impatient one.

 

The autos seeds were soaked and popped end of Jan (around the 26th to 28th I think).

Then pistils started in March (around a  months time), usually my photoperiods are around week 3 into flower when they start to push lots of pistils. So by now the plants have been in flower for approximately 10 weeks and end of this coming weekend (Mothers day weekend) will be 11 weeks of flower or 15 weeks in total since popping the seeds.

That takes us to 105 days roughly from seed to harvest - whether they will even be ready and mature is another question, will check trichomes sometime during this coming week - which will be week 15 for the autos.

 

I must admit, the gelato was a late bloomer but the frost on the gelato looks pretty decent for an auto and it should sparkle nicely once dry and trimmed.

The colour on the OG Kush is sexy! The LSD-25 is unique in terms of it's colouring and the pluto cut looks the most boring to be honest and frost is lacking a bit for me.

 

I will post at least one more set of pics before harvest and then once the bud is dry I will take some pics of the bud and post that. I will also try post weight per plant, help give anyone who is interested in growing these autos and idea of what I was able to get out of them.

 

I may consider putting the lights back upto 18 hours for this last week as I no longer have any photoperiods in the tent.

[Prom]

 more light will ripen them faster... go 18 at least.

[PsyCLown]

 more light will ripen them faster... go 18 at least.

Ahh ok this is good to know.
I actually put them back onto 18 hours yesterday.

Wonder if the same applies to auto flowers? I had heard that some growers reduce the light to below 12 hours for photoperiods to try get them to ripen faster.
Bit difficult to test to prove whether it works or not though. I wonder if DLI (total amount of photons / ppfd the plant receives in a day) plays a role.

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[Prom]

I would go dark same hour, just turn light earlier on.. should not disturb their breathing cycle.

If you go nerd like... add a camera and a watch, look when they go into exhale mode and adapt the light cycle to the minimum they need.  not sure i am the only wierdo doing that hehehe

Edited May 2, 2021 by Prom
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[PsyCLown]

A pic of the 4 autos together:

 

 

 

Then I saw some nanners on the OG Kush so decided to cut her down, but I took some pics before I did the chop chop:

 

[Stinger96]

2 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

A pic of the 4 autos together:

 

 

 

Then I saw some nanners on the OG Kush so decided to cut her down, but I took some pics before I did the chop chop:

 

Awesome plant...

[Groen Bobbejean]

9 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

 

 

 

 

Those colours are really nice.

[PsyCLown]

So I chopped all the plants down last night. Took a few pics before I did the chop chop though.

 

Gelato - it really looks good now. Has had quite the transformation from veg until now:

Pluto Cut, I think this plant actually died - I should have been checking more frequently but have neglected them a bit... So my own fault end of the day. I do not think this will be good bud unfortunately.

 

LSD-25, well, the colour is nice. Frost is lacking a bit. Quite leafy, but I have always wanted to grow a plant with such colouring. Done it now and not sure I would grow this strain again.

[Prom]

Sexy shit!!!!  nice job... autos like autos should look like.

[Prom]

12 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Gelato - it really looks good now. Has had quite the transformation from veg until now:

 

Pluto Cut, I think this plant actually died - I should have been checking more frequently but have neglected them a bit... So my own fault end of the day. I do not think this will be good bud unfortunately.

 

LSD-25, well, the colour is nice. Frost is lacking a bit. Quite leafy, but I have always wanted to grow a plant with such colouring. Done it now and not sure I would grow this strain again.

You take autos more or less before they die. Doesnt look always pretty... but taste wise you should get some great smokes out of those. Pretty plants are nice.. but we grow to smoke.

You can be rather happy with your result... for a first time playing with autos, you dont have to hide yourself, that is for sure  judge after you smoke the results, the LSD25 might surprise you. I know you will enjoy the Gelato 

[PsyCLown]

3 hours ago, Prom said:

You take autos more or less before they die. Doesnt look always pretty... but taste wise you should get some great smokes out of those. Pretty plants are nice.. but we grow to smoke.

You can be rather happy with your result... for a first time playing with autos, you dont have to hide yourself, that is for sure  judge after you smoke the results, the LSD25 might surprise you. I know you will enjoy the Gelato 

True, we do not grow for looks but it is part of the package I feel... Just like with food,  you want it to look good and look appealing. Same with bud and cannabis IMO.

 

The Pluto cut I feel will be a disappointment as it looks as if the plant died and then remained in the tent under the lights.

Also this is the 2nd time I am running some autos. The first it was a Daquari Lime by Dutch Passion.

Not sure I will run more auto's again in the near future, but let's see and I am certainly curious as to how these autos will smoke compared to my usual photoperiods.

 

I will give feedback once they have dried and been trimmed and cured for a bit - will post some pics of the bud once dry and cured too.

[ThricomeInstituteStudent]

30 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

True, we do not grow for looks but it is part of the package I feel... Just like with food,  you want it to look good and look appealing. Same with bud and cannabis IMO.

 

The Pluto cut I feel will be a disappointment as it looks as if the plant died and then remained in the tent under the lights.

Also this is the 2nd time I am running some autos. The first it was a Daquari Lime by Dutch Passion.

Not sure I will run more auto's again in the near future, but let's see and I am certainly curious as to how these autos will smoke compared to my usual photoperiods.

 

I will give feedback once they have dried and been trimmed and cured for a bit - will post some pics of the bud once dry and cured too.

My apologies to chip in, I want to harvest my Gorilla Auto at the perfect time, pistols are 80% orange, but new white hairs pop out every few days, on one hand I am told to watch the Trichomes to change to amber, on the other side I am told to wait until the leaves are dying.  Is it both?  The leaves still look fresh and green.

[PsyCLown]

Just now, ThricomeInstituteStudent said:

My apologies to chip in, I want to harvest my Gorilla Auto at the perfect time, pistols are 80% orange, but new white hairs pop out every few days, on one hand I am told to watch the Trichomes to change to amber, on the other side I am told to wait until the leaves are dying.  Is it both?  The leaves still look fresh and green.

Well perhaps @Prom can chime in here a bit as well as he has a lot more experience with autos compared to myself.

 

Pistils are an indicator, however in no way is it an accurate way to tell whether the bud is mature or not.

The best way as far as I am concerned is to check the trichomes - you ideally need a microscope or loupe to do it properly.

This image should help make it easier to understand what to look for in terms of the trichome colour:

 

 

Leaves can be an indicator that the plant is busy dieing or getting ready to die, but as far as I am concerned it is not an accurate way to tell whether the bud is mature or not. We do not smoke the leaves, we smoke the bud and the trichomes are what contain the active ingredients we want (THC, CBD and the others).

 

One thing I do want to mention is that when checking the trichomes, you want to check on the bud itself and not the sugar leaves as the trichomes on the sugar leaves mature quicker than the trichomes on the bud. I do not know why, but this has always been the case and if you check on the sugar leaves you may think the bud is ready to be harvested but may not be the case.

 

Ensuring the bud is properly mature is very important as immature bud can lead to some negative side effects which you often want to avoid, such as making one paranoid, negatively affecting REM sleep cycles and leading to you feeling groggy in the morning and a few others too.

 

 

Although I will admit, with these autoflowers the trichomes are not maturing the same way my photoperiod plants have been which I must admit is a bit odd and confusing - so perhaps @Prom can confirm whether there are any possible differences when it comes to autoflowers.  

[Prom]

@ThricomeInstituteStudent

The first thing i do when the pistils dry up, i stop with the top max... flowering stimulator.

@PsyCLown posted the picture... this is how you harvest... thricomes as preferred indicator.

Sometimes the plant has other ideas, might have been stunned during flower for to long, and just dies on you. Forces you to harvest.

Magnifiers, photo camera with a macro lense, electronic microscope,... at one stage we all take a closer look and decide. The better you know a strain, the less often you have to check it. And sugar leaves dont count... harvest you have to learn and be patient. Look and judge what the thricomes tell you. Early, energizer, late, relaxer... and dont worry, i harvest for over 30 years and still have to force myself to wait.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Prom
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[ThricomeInstituteStudent]

4 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Well perhaps @Prom can chime in here a bit as well as he has a lot more experience with autos compared to myself.

 

Pistils are an indicator, however in no way is it an accurate way to tell whether the bud is mature or not.

The best way as far as I am concerned is to check the trichomes - you ideally need a microscope or loupe to do it properly.

This image should help make it easier to understand what to look for in terms of the trichome colour:

 

 

Leaves can be an indicator that the plant is busy dieing or getting ready to die, but as far as I am concerned it is not an accurate way to tell whether the bud is mature or not. We do not smoke the leaves, we smoke the bud and the trichomes are what contain the active ingredients we want (THC, CBD and the others).

 

One thing I do want to mention is that when checking the trichomes, you want to check on the bud itself and not the sugar leaves as the trichomes on the sugar leaves mature quicker than the trichomes on the bud. I do not know why, but this has always been the case and if you check on the sugar leaves you may think the bud is ready to be harvested but may not be the case.

 

Ensuring the bud is properly mature is very important as immature bud can lead to some negative side effects which you often want to avoid, such as making one paranoid, negatively affecting REM sleep cycles and leading to you feeling groggy in the morning and a few others too.

 

 

Although I will admit, with these autoflowers the trichomes are not maturing the same way my photoperiod plants have been which I must admit is a bit odd and confusing - so perhaps @Prom can confirm whether there are any possible differences when it comes to autoflowers.  

Wow, thank you for that factual feedback, that makes complete sense, Mind blown though with the part that the Trichomes mature quicker on the sugar leaves, thank you, I will right that in my note book.

[ThricomeInstituteStudent]

4 hours ago, Prom said:

@ThricomeInstituteStudent

The first thing i do when the pistils dry up, i stop with the top max... flowering stimulator.

@PsyCLown posted the picture... this is how you harvest... thricomes as preferred indicator.

Sometimes the plant has other ideas, might have been stunned during flower for to long, and just dies on you. Forces you to harvest.

Magnifiers, photo camera with a macro lense, electronic microscope,... at one stage we all take a closer look and decide. The better you know a strain, the less often you have to check it. And sugar leaves dont count... harvest you have to learn and be patient. Look and judge what the thricomes tell you. Early, energizer, late, relaxer... and dont worry, i harvest for over 30 years and still have to force myself to wait.

Thanks @PromI have a loupe so I look at the formations daily, it is magnificent.  Cant wait for my next grow, and the next one and and.  Thats some long time service @Prom.  30 years, #Pro, thats 946,080,000 seconds more experience than I have.

[Orcanic]

That OG Kush plant looks incredible. Going to add that to my list of strains to try.

 

Great job on the grow! 

[The_StonedTrooper]

@PsyCLown I know how you feel about growing the beautiful color plants, and know you growing it for the first time, if you have, how do you find smoking the dark purple cannabis?

For me, I've never been impressed by anything purple, and on asking another person, they felt the same way. Even the same plant, the green parts seem to kick better than the purple section. 

[PsyCLown]

@PsyCLown I know how you feel about growing the beautiful color plants, and know you growing it for the first time, if you have, how do you find smoking the dark purple cannabis?
For me, I've never been impressed by anything purple, and on asking another person, they felt the same way. Even the same plant, the green parts seem to kick better than the purple section. 

Interesting, I haven't sampled it yet.
Just put it into a jar tonight and still gotta trim it.

Will let you know once I've sampled some and how it compares to other bud.

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[The_StonedTrooper]

Please, and didnt mean that specific bud, in general and previously perhaps?

Thanks for the reply brother