Diary Complete Palomino and friends

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

So I finished up with my second indoor grow and was quite happy with the results. So now it's time for my 3rd grow running some local genetics along with some international and established strains.. it's @Totemic time 

I learnt a lot from my last grow and have switched up a couple of things.. 

Soil - moved from Royal Gorilla to Freedom Farms classic (Very happy with this decision.. FF is a super stable soil with a very nice inherent nutrient balance)

Seedlings - germinated in peat pellets as normal but for the seedling stage had them in 10cm pots for rooting with a subsequent transplant to the 20l fabric pots

Nutes - I still have Seagro but decided for this grow I will only be running the BioBizz line (with some calmag throughout  and molasses for flower)

Lighting - for the seedling stage I only had my HLG 100 on and only flipped on the additional 300w grow bar rig 4 weeks into the veg stage.

Genetics - so as stated I wanted to give some local heroes a go and half of the tent will be local. Seeds originally planned for the run:

Totemic - Palomino (germinated within 3 days and growth is ridiculous - will most propably be the star of the tent)

Totemic - Tortoni #1 (I initially thought this seed didn't germinate as it took quite a while for tap to show - 6 to 7 days)

Totemic - Tortoni #2 (because I thought I lost the 1st Tortoni )

Inhouse Genetics - Twisted Helix 

Garden of Green - Girl Scout Cookies 

TH Seeds - Bubblegum 

G13 Labs - Raw Diesel (dud seed did not germinate...  )

Ripper - Brain Cake (whack mutant plant. Not sure if it's the seed or initial rooting problems but it will be chucked..)

Initial growth points towards 3 stand out ladies - Palomino, GSC and Twisted Helix.. the other 3 are stacking very tightly and will probably be bushy little ladies..

Germination was done on the 2nd of March and first topping and training for mainline will commence shortly. I still haven't introduced nutes yet as the leaf colour still looks spot on.. damn good soil that is!! 

Germination

Seedlings

Veg growth pre transplant

Mutant lady

Post transplant

GSC

Twisted Helix

Palomino 

Tortoni #1

Bubblegum

Tortoni #2

[Totemic]

Cool man. Following along. Are those fems or regulars? 

[John Stonedwell]

2 minutes ago, Totemic said:

Cool man. Following along. Are those fems or regulars? 

Morning good sir. All of those ladies were feminised seeds. I still have your GTH × OKC regulars for a run in the future.  

Need to stock up on enough flower first 

[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Following allong for sure,, my kinda grow right here,, local with good soil and the added extras.. Hoping to learn a ton from this one.. Looking good so far sir...

[John Stonedwell]

15 minutes ago, GreenGrow Garden Route said:

Following allong for sure,, my kinda grow right here,, local with good soil and the added extras.. Hoping to learn a ton from this one.. Looking good so far sir...

Thanx bro. Much appreciated. Next run will also feature another local breeder, Motherland Genetics. I really get all giddy and excited for local breeders working on some nice gear. 

[PsyCLown]

Very nice, just one Twisted Helix seed?

Keen to see how it turns out. Have had my eye on Twisted Helix but never got around to purchasing.

[John Stonedwell]

@PsyCLown yo man. 

I bought 2 singles so I have one as back up if it turns out to be something special. Will also give a cutting to a mate.

Also excited to see how it turns out 

[PsyCLown]

@PsyCLown yo man. 
I bought 2 singles so I have one as back up if it turns out to be something special. Will also give a cutting to a mate.
Also excited to see how it turns out 

Ahh ok, nice.
Hopefully you get the right pheno amongst those 2 seeds. I'd say pop both seeds.

Take cuttings before flowering them, label them. Then see which one is the better pheno and keep it.

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[Naughty.Psychonaut]

fuck yeah 

excited to see what happens here 

got a couple totemic seeds up my sleeve, might run one or two outdoor this coming season 

goodluck man, hope it's smooth sailing!

[John Stonedwell]

4 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Ahh ok, nice.
Hopefully you get the right pheno amongst those 2 seeds. I'd say pop both seeds.

Take cuttings before flowering them, label them. Then see which one is the better pheno and keep it.

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Thanx for the good advice bro. Space is unfortunately an issue at the moment so I can't really keep cuttings to mother. So the second seed will act more as a back up. 

Hopefully I get a frosty pheno.. Haven't seen a lot of pics of the Twisted Helix..

[John Stonedwell]

3 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

fuck yeah 

excited to see what happens here 

got a couple totemic seeds up my sleeve, might run one or two outdoor this coming season 

goodluck man, hope it's smooth sailing!

Thanx man. Will be cool to see a shit load of Totemic beans being run in different environments and set ups. Will get some good feedback. 

I will follow along when you pop those Totemic beans 

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

So this past weekend was topping and training time for the mainline. This is alway a stressful exercise as you do not know how the ladies will react to the high stress training. 

But I am very happy to report that all the ladies took to the topping and training like champs. 

I initially thought that the Tortoni #1 and #2 will be a slow growers... but it looks like they were just slow out of the blocks and now catching up to the big 3 ladies. Tortoni #2 will get her topping soon. The Bubblegum looks like it will be the smallest in the tent. A true representation of a stocky Indica...

The Palomino and Twisted Helix really recovered super quick from the topping and will be ready for the next top in a week or two.

From the 5 plants I topped and trimmed I was able to get 34 cuttings. And they all seem to be getting on with the rooting stage.

I tried something different in terms of lighting for the clone dome and it seems to work. Got LED strips from builders for cheap and just arranged it over the dome..

Palomino

Twisted Helix

GSC

Tortoni #1

Bubblegum

Tortoni #2

Tent view 

Clones

Improvised Clone Dome

[PsyCLown]

Nice, looks good.

A 9w led bulb in a lamp would probably work well for the clone dome too, I normally put my clone dome into my veg tent and haven't had issues with insufficient light.

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[John Stonedwell]

2 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Nice, looks good.

A 9w led bulb in a lamp would probably work well for the clone dome too, I normally put my clone dome into my veg tent and haven't had issues with insufficient light.

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Thanx man. 

Yeah I popped the clones from the previous run into the veg tent and had some issues with excessive light. So this time round I thought to just give them enough time to settle then on to the tent for further rooting. 

Hopefully I get rooting from all the cuttings.  

[ORGANinc.]

That twisted helix is shooting for the stars, nice one bro! Also keen to see those tortonis!

[John Stonedwell]

12 minutes ago, ORGANinc. said:

That twisted helix is shooting for the stars, nice one bro! Also keen to see those tortonis!

Hi brother. Yeah super excited for the growth of that Twisted Helix. Looks like she is literally gonna raise the roof in the tent 

[CreX]

2 hours ago, John Stonedwell said:

Improvised Clone Dome

Clones are looking great man! 

one consideration i have found is at 100% RH, i tend to get all kinds of funky happening in my dome after a week or so.

i keep the vents on my dome open , and lift the side of my dome lid up by like 1cm so that the humidity drops a little... to like 90%

i have found the cutting root a bit faster, and dont get any funky on them if they need to be in the dome for a while longer.

basically i try aim for just before condensation runs down the lid

[John Stonedwell]

4 hours ago, CreX said:

Clones are looking great man! 

one consideration i have found is at 100% RH, i tend to get all kinds of funky happening in my dome after a week or so.

i keep the vents on my dome open , and lift the side of my dome lid up by like 1cm so that the humidity drops a little... to like 90%

i have found the cutting root a bit faster, and dont get any funky on them if they need to be in the dome for a while longer.

basically i try aim for just before condensation runs down the lid

Hi bro. Thanx for the tips.

Yeah my cheap clone dome unfortunately doesn't have vents so I "burp" the dome daily and empty the dome from any run off condensation. My previous clone runs where I didn't do this I also got that funky/vrot situation.

I will definitely do the 1cm lift to also help get the RH to that 90 mark.

Thanx for sharing

[CreX]

no sweat man, i use a little RH meter inside the dome for a few days until i find the sweet spot and make sure RH doesnt drop too low, then the meter comes out and is used for curing again haha

 

[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks.

So just over a month and a bit into Veg and the ladies are looking stellar.

All the clones rooted which I am very happy about! I transplanted a couple today for my clone run with the mothers and the rest given to mates to keep as mothers or to grow and flower them out.

Tomorrow will be the second topping for the mainline exercise and Tortoni #2 will get her first topping but I will try and prep her for the second topping in a couple of days. 

The genetics by @Totemic are really showing their muster and are champs with the high stress training and vigorous root development with the clones. Twisted Helix also seems to be rocking along very nicely with strong growth. 

GSC

Twisted Helix 

Palomino 

Tortoni #1

Bubblegum 

Tortoni #2

Totemic Clones

Tent

Tent with clones

 

 

[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks,

So I did some mainline topping and training on Saturday and today. Still one exercise shy for the 8 main colas I desire.

The Tortoni #2 grew so strong and vigorous (seems she was just a little shy at first) that she got 1st and 2nd topping all in one. And she has recovered very nicely I have to add. 

The Bubblegum is one bushy stacked Indica which is making me scratch my head as to whether I should try the full mainline or only stop at the second topping and run a flux mainline.. she will definitely need plenty of defoliation either which way..

Palomino and Twisted Helix also coming along nicely with GSC hot on their heels. 

A fresh batch of clones also chilling at the moment. Damn with this training there are a shit load of cuttings that you just don't want to chuck.. 

Also topped up on the soil as my levels were dropping a bit..

Palomino 

Twisted Helix 

GSC 

Tortoni #1

Tortoni #2

Bubblegum 

Full tent

Clones

 

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by John Stonedwell
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[GGG]

Plants look stunning dude, welldone

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[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks.

So last night was the final topping for the ladies. Every strain except for the Bubblegum got their 3rd topping. On the bubblegum I just tied down the 4 mains in order to open up the canopy. Real stocky little plant hopefully yield will be on par. 

So now is the final veg stretch for about 2 to 3 weeks then I will flip to flower. Might still need to train and tie down a couple of mains depending on the speed of recovery. But overall the plants are looking super happy and the nute balance seems to be on par.

Palomino 

Twisted Helix 

GSC 

Tortoni #1

Tortoni #2

Bubblegum 

Tent view

[PsyCLown]

Looking good!  

Stems look nice and thick too for the size of the plants.

[John Stonedwell]

4 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Looking good!  

Stems look nice and thick too for the size of the plants.

Thanx man. Yeah my problem with the previous mainline was that I started the training too soon and didn't wait for the plants to recover en get strong enough. This time round it seems like the timing was a lot better.

So now there is a solid base for the mains to grow from.