Diary Complete Palomino and friends

[The_StonedTrooper]

That infamous Blue Berry, and I can vouch for that strain too as I had a BB muffin the other day, and some of the best stuff I've had in a while.

Got a clone coming my way.

Edited July 16, 2021 by The_StonedTrooper

[John Stonedwell]

@The_StonedTrooper sounds very nice man.

Any idea on the breeder of that cut? From what I have read the DJ Short version is as close to the original you can get.

[The_StonedTrooper]

2 hours ago, John Stonedwell said:

@The_StonedTrooper sounds very nice man.

Any idea on the breeder of that cut? From what I have read the DJ Short version is as close to the original you can get.

Was HUMBOLDT I believe.

But its truly wow and worthy

[John Stonedwell]

32 minutes ago, The_StonedTrooper said:

Was HUMBOLDT I believe.

But its truly wow and worthy

Keep us posted please. With your exceptional photography it will make for some good eye candy 

[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks,

I did not intend on updating the dairy again so quickly but I saw some awesome stretch on the main colas on the ladies (GSC - meh...)

Twisted Helix representing the breeder quality and the price you pay per seed with some really fat buds starting to take shape.

The one that's really blowing my mind on the cola stretch is the Tortoni #2. She was germinated last and had quite a lot of catch up to do. But in flower she is shining through. If I had the capacity to play around with breeding I would have liked to work with this Tortoni #2 

And a shout out to @Prom for his dedicated commitment  on the BioBizz line. I learnt a lot from his nutrient application process 

Tortoni #2

Tortoni #1

Twisted Helix 

Bubblegum 

Palomino 

GSC 

[Prom]

 what ever you do, you doing it right!  looks very sexy! 

[John Stonedwell]

6 minutes ago, Prom said:

 what ever you do, you doing it right!  looks very sexy! 

Thank you my good friend. Your detailed approach to growing cannabis in soil medium with BioBizz guided me a lot. 

Thank you for all your effort and sharing your wisdom with forum members.  

[Prom]

You might want to clean the lower parts out a bit on fan leaves.. a few a day doesn't stress. Focus on the ones pointing inside. 3-4 leaves over 4-5 days till you have more light on the lower buds. Other way would be to use plant bends and just bend those leaves down... best option but most work but you can do all in one session, no reason to space it.

(Don't bug the Autos  If you run any, there you need plant bends)

 

[The_StonedTrooper]

8 hours ago, John Stonedwell said:

Keep us posted please. With your exceptional photography it will make for some good eye candy 

Will do,

I'd actually, not like, but love to, photograph your grow and flowers 

Honestly

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

Currently sitting on day 50 of flower so more or less 3 weeks still left before the chop.

I sat and stared at the plants this morning in the dark and thought I'd share a couple of lights off photos. Tortoni #2 is really impressing me a lot in flower..

The photos are a bit blurry, not sitting with the best phone camera...

Twisted Helix 

GSC 

Palomino 

Bubblegum 

Tortoni #2

Tortoni #1

Tent view 

[Stinger96]

Looking stellar there sir.. If I may ask. Where did you get the clip on fans from and are they worth it..?

[John Stonedwell]

Just now, Stinger96 said:

Looking stellar there sir.. If I may ask. Where did you get the clip on fans from and are they worth it..?

Thank you good sir. I have the RAM and Safe way non-oscillating fans. Both real good quality.

Safeway bought from Clicks and a bit cheaper. Ram bought through Hydroponic.co.za a little bit more expensive.  But on 24/7 and haven't had any issues now on my second grow with them 

[The_StonedTrooper]

I have 6 of the RAM fans,

Needed to remove the oscillating pin selector, to get 4 of them to oscillate properly, and then 5 or probably all 6 of them make a huge squeak on turning and if you are in the room nextdoor, you are going to hear it.

Through the tent and room door.

Other than that, 1 year in, and they are exceptional at moving air, and that is their job anyway.

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

Day 53 of flower and I took out the ladies for some inspection and feedingone thing that really stands out for me is the fact that it seems the clones are maturing quicker than the mother plants?

Pride and joy currently in the clone stable is the Palomino. I love the fact that the sugar leaves are cupping with excessive trichome. Just looks beautiful. 

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

Day 58 of flower and I am not really seeing the buds fattening up as nicely as I would like. Trichome development on most of the ladies looks epic but rather perplexed as to the size of the buds. Might have been the cold as my grow is not temperature controlled. Or it might be the reasons noted below...

This whole growing thing is a never ending learning curve and I got schooled on this grow as well. 

3 things I will have to adjust with the next grow.

- defoliate, defoliate, defoliate. Too many bud sites/nodes covered with growth stealing energy from the mains. @Prom thanx for the heads up.

- veg the plants longer to establish distinct mains and allowing for better defoliation. Shout out to @PsyCLown and @ORGANinc. for picking up on that

- soil got too compact due to too many top ups. I think that might have inadvertently limited root growth and expansion. 

Well lessons learnt and probably a lot more to learn as we move along. I also think I might have gotten a slight overwatering issue with the Bubblegum, she doesn't drink that much...

Still got 2 odd weeks to go so let's hope for some fat nugs coming to the party...

P.S Garden of Green - GSC what a waste of space...

Twisted Helix 

GSC 

Palomino 

Tortoni #1

Tortoni #2

Bubblegum 

Favourite clone (Palomino)

Tent view

[ORGANinc.]

6 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

Morning folks.

Day 58 of flower and I am not really seeing the buds fattening up as nicely as I would like. Trichome development on most of the ladies looks epic but rather perplexed as to the size of the buds. Might have been the cold as my grow is not temperature controlled. Or it might be the reasons noted below...

This whole growing thing is a never ending learning curve and I got schooled on this grow as well. 

3 things I will have to adjust with the next grow.

- defoliate, defoliate, defoliate. Too many bud sites/nodes covered with growth stealing energy from the mains. @Prom thanx for the heads up.

- veg the plants longer to establish distinct mains and allowing for better defoliation. Shout out to @PsyCLown and @ORGANinc. for picking up on that

- soil got too compact due to too many top ups. I think that might have inadvertently limited root growth and expansion. 

Well lessons learnt and probably a lot more to learn as we move along. I also think I might have gotten a slight overwatering issue with the Bubblegum, she doesn't drink that much...

Still got 2 odd weeks to go so let's hope for some fat nugs coming to the party...

P.S Garden of Green - GSC what a waste of space...

Twisted Helix 

GSC 

Palomino 

Tortoni #1

Tortoni #2

Bubblegum 

Favourite clone (Palomino)

Tent view

Don't know what you talking about, Looks great brother! They will get bigger, let them go another 2 weeks, the cold makes things slow.

[GGG]

WOW that Palomino looks fantastic
Nice grow over all man , let them go longer , cold does have slow growth

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[PsyCLown]

@John Stonedwell Based on my experience, with the frosty stuff I have grown so far - bud size seems to be something which is affected.

Get tons of frost, but bud size and yield seems to take a bit of a knock unfortunately.

 

Defoliationg helps, everyone has a different degree to which they are comfortable with. I say on your next grow, try multiple methods on the same strain (or cut) and see how it goes.

Strip the one plant literally bare just before you put it into flower and see how it bounces back and create a lot of extra nodes, leaves and colas during the pre-flower phase and then do another defol after that (around 3 weeks after putting them into flower).

 

So far, yield does not seem to be affected in a negative way and helps open everything up nicely for better light penetration on the bud as well as better air circulation. Buds which do not get direct light often seem to be lighter in colour and not look as good.

 

You can take a look at my current grow diary to get an idea of what I do, try it at least once.

Try removing different amounts and see what works best, it may vary between strains as well.

I do defoliate quite a lot heavier than most from what I have noticed, trying different levels on the frosty in house stuff as well to see how they respond.

 

Looking great though, a bit of burn on the Palamino though on the tips of the leaves. Bubblegum looks to be clawing a little as well.

I like to taper off on the nute strength towards the end of flower as I do not flush and the nutes can build up in the medium over time. So towards the end I start to drop the strength a bit to help avoid the crispy leaves towards the end of flower. I do not stop feeding altogether and I do not drop it drastically, 10% to 30% reduction in strength can make a big difference even.

[John Stonedwell]

23 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

@John Stonedwell Based on my experience, with the frosty stuff I have grown so far - bud size seems to be something which is affected.

Get tons of frost, but bud size and yield seems to take a bit of a knock unfortunately.

 

Defoliationg helps, everyone has a different degree to which they are comfortable with. I say on your next grow, try multiple methods on the same strain (or cut) and see how it goes.

Strip the one plant literally bare just before you put it into flower and see how it bounces back and create a lot of extra nodes, leaves and colas during the pre-flower phase and then do another defol after that (around 3 weeks after putting them into flower).

 

So far, yield does not seem to be affected in a negative way and helps open everything up nicely for better light penetration on the bud as well as better air circulation. Buds which do not get direct light often seem to be lighter in colour and not look as good.

 

You can take a look at my current grow diary to get an idea of what I do, try it at least once.

Try removing different amounts and see what works best, it may vary between strains as well.

I do defoliate quite a lot heavier than most from what I have noticed, trying different levels on the frosty in house stuff as well to see how they respond.

 

Looking great though, a bit of burn on the Palamino though on the tips of the leaves. Bubblegum looks to be clawing a little as well.

I like to taper off on the nute strength towards the end of flower as I do not flush and the nutes can build up in the medium over time. So towards the end I start to drop the strength a bit to help avoid the crispy leaves towards the end of flower. I do not stop feeding altogether and I do not drop it drastically, 10% to 30% reduction in strength can make a big difference even.

Very wise words my friend. Thank you for the constructive feedback. 

I will keep that in mind for the next dance. 

[John Stonedwell]

Houston... we have a problem 

I was chilling with my plants today and something caught my eye on the one Bubblegum clone. 

So there is one Bubblegum mother plant and 3 clones currently in the tent. And I am quite certain I saw some nanners on the one clone. The other doesn't seem to have.

I've heard hermie traits can be due to the strain cross not being as stable as it should be or due to stress. Not sure which one is applicable for this issue... 

I am a bit worried as to what to do now? 

We are currently sitting on day 59 of flower so should I chop the perceived hermie or what to do?

Some guidance will be appreciated here...

Some pics of the possible problem.. 

[The_StonedTrooper]

Toooooo much N

[Bay Seeds]

pull them off with a tweezer

[John Stonedwell]

3 minutes ago, The_StonedTrooper said:

Toooooo much N

Thanx for the heads up. Just funny that she was on the same nute schedule as the other 2 clones and mother plant.. and they dont show any signs... My BioGrow nutes were limited to between 2 to 3.5 ml per liter. 

[John Stonedwell]

3 minutes ago, Bay Seeds said:

pull them off with a tweezer

Thank you for the advice.

Will that ensure that the other plants don't get pollinated? I am just afraid I might miss a banana and then the whole tent goes tits up with pollen and seeds. 

[The_StonedTrooper]

17 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

Thanx for the heads up. Just funny that she was on the same nute schedule as the other 2 clones and mother plant.. and they dont show any signs... My BioGrow nutes were limited to between 2 to 3.5 ml per liter. 

There is absolutely no fade on the lower leaves.

The air flow, can also cause a plant to do that, where was that plant in comparison?