Diary Complete Palomino and friends

[Bay Seeds]

22 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

Thank you for the advice.

Will that ensure that the other plants don't get pollinated? I am just afraid I might miss a banana and then the whole tent goes tits up with pollen and seeds. 

If you get them all you should be fine. 

[John Stonedwell]

4 minutes ago, The_StonedTrooper said:

There is absolutely no fade on the lower leaves.

The air flow, can also cause a plant to do that, where was that plant in comparison?

True no fade as yet on the clones. Mothers have a slight fade. 

The clones are in plastic pots and the mothers in fabric. Not sure whether that could have played a part. 

She was bang smack in the middle of the tent where there was limited airflow as I don't have oscillating fans. 

I went and had a look now again and all the Bubblegum plants have nanners. Just some more than others. Total fucking buzz kill this late in the game. 

Should I cut it all and and will the smoke still be any good?

[John Stonedwell]

3 minutes ago, Bay Seeds said:

If you get them all you should be fine. 

I just picked up now that all the Bubblegum plants have it. Really disheartening at this point in the game.. 

[Bay Seeds]

4 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

I just picked up now that all the Bubblegum plants have it. Really disheartening at this point in the game.. 

Go over every plant and find everyone. Something must have stressed them. As long as all the pollen sacks are picked off the plant won't pollinate the rest of the tent.  Sucks but it's not a train smash. Not getting pollinated is already stressful on the female plants. They want to make seeds. The terps are to attract pollinators. Plus all female cannabis plants have the ability to reverse themselves sometimes purely because there are no males. Its a survival mechanism. Pick off all the balls and you should be fine. Never harvest early if you can avoid it. BTW im in awe of you plants and grow. Very impressive phenos

[John Stonedwell]

@The_StonedTrooper and @Bay Seeds thank you for all the help guys.

Really gets a guy down when you get this shit so close to the end of the line. And just to harp back to my previous post. Not enough defoliation and air circulation all round and now I spotted this on the one Bubblegum clone.. only isolated to lower leaves...

Turned a rather all right day into a shit storm... 

I will sit tonight and remove all the leaves that have a spot on. Seems it mostly only affected the Bubblegum... I only have to nurse these ladies for 2 odd weeks so I am hopeful this shit doesn't spread. 

 

[Bay Seeds]

Spray them with 50% milk water while the lights are on. Wait till they dry then a tot of peroxide with 1l water. Or a tot mouthwash with 1l water. Or a tot of apple cider vinegar with 1l. Still minor by the looks of it. 

[GGG]

Only 2-3 weeks left anyway so as advised just plug the nanners , don't think seeds will develop properly in 2 weeks and if you have a seed or 2 per bud it won't effect the potency and all that , luckily it's late in flower . Hang in there , plug nanners and effected leaves

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[PsyCLown]

I've had that happen before too, it's quite upsetting indeed.

Early harvest isn't great. 2 to 3 weeks isn't long to go luckily.
I'd say try pick the nanners this time, more will continue to grow though.

You can try to continue picking all of them, otherwise I feel by the time the pollen comes, you'll be closer to harvest and the seed won't have sufficient time to form and will barely affect your harvest. You probably won't notice seeds in the buds.

As for the PM, the milk and water can help but it can get a bit messy and leave marks on your leaves unless you rinse the plants off.
I'd recommend some AQ sf, if you're able to get some bio impilo and bio tricho the 3 can work well together.
This works well as a preventative for PM at a low dose, at a high dose will get rid of the infection.
If you do nothing, it WILL spread.

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[GreenGrow Garden Route]

Shit man so sorry.. It's not a nice feeling but you cruizing home. If you follow the good advice your home free..

[Stinger96]

I pollnated some girls 4 weeks in and had to harvest early due to WPM and some other issues.. So the flower was polinated for almost 3 weeks and I got no seads at all not even under developed seeds.. So seed wise I really do not think you have to worry.. As was said.. I could also not really say that trichome production or potency was influenced.. I imagined myself that the terpene profile was intesified somewhat..

[The_StonedTrooper]

Airflow is the biggest cause of hermie or nanna 

[The_StonedTrooper]

For the PM, use KHC03 until the 3rd day before harvest 

AQSF is good,

Double Nickel, okay, leaves residue you must wash off

Jadam wetting agent, until about 2 weeks before H.

[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks, 

So currently sitting on day 63 of flower and it looks like I avoided a total PM cluster f*ck.

The Bubblegum and her clones were removed from the tent and harvested on day 60. Only a couple of days shy of her 9 week window. Trichome was for the most part cloudy and PM only isolated to a couple of leaves that were removed prior to hanging.

I will also have to look at the N balance with the next grow. As pointed out by @The_StonedTrooper might have had a little bit too much.

Now in the final week and will systemically check trichome for the harvest window. 

Tortoni #2

Tortoni #1

GSC

Palomino + clone

Twisted Helix 

Tent view

Bubblegum 

[The_StonedTrooper]

12 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

will also have to look at the N balance with the next grow. As pointed out by @The_StonedTrooper might have had a little bit too much

Dont do anything different in the beginning, just slow down near the end, let the plant eat itself a little, makes a huge difference, for me.

[The_StonedTrooper]

Fix your airflow is key brother above all else.

[PsyCLown]

Looking great, once you go into flower (after preflowering /stretch) you wanna drop the nitrogen all the way down.

What nutes you using? Biobizz?

All your plants look quite similar frost wise actually, very nice.

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[John Stonedwell]

2 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Looking great, once you go into flower (after preflowering /stretch) you wanna drop the nitrogen all the way down.

What nutes you using? Biobizz?

All your plants look quite similar frost wise actually, very nice.

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Hey bro.

Yes I use the BioBizz line. I think I might have prolonged the grow feed and strength a bit too much so will keep an eye on that next round. 

First round pulled the N too early, this time round too late. So hopefully the sweet spot will be achieved in the near future. 

[PsyCLown]

Hey bro.
Yes I use the BioBizz line. I think I might have prolonged the grow feed and strength a bit too much so will keep an eye on that next round. 
First round pulled the N too early, this time round too late. So hopefully the sweet spot will be achieved in the near future. 

You wanna bump nutes up during the 3 week stretch, then reduce the N a lot and up the P.

So with Biobizz from what I recall it was fish mix in veg (I preferred this over grow for veg).
Then gro with some bloom during stretch and then reduce the gro or drop it altogether and up the bloom a bit.

You can go stupidly heavy on bloom without negative effects. I was pushing boundaries with bloom on one of my grows when I was still using Biobizz and no burn or lockout... It was a waste though. I skipped the chart and fed based on EC which I think was like 8ml to 12ml per L or around there.

From what I recall the bloom has N in it as well, but low which is perfect. No need for additional N in flower.

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[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks,

Currently on day 72 of flower and started chopping down the rest of the clones (1 Palomino and 3 Twisted Helix).

The remaining mother plants will be getting the chop either on Friday or Saturday. 

This time round I had to opt for a semi wet trim as I had the PM issue. The Palomino clone is my favourite plant I have grown to date. Just love her looks,smell and resistance. 

Palomino clone

Twisted Helix clone 

Group photo

Remaining ladies in the tent:

Tortoni #2

Palomino 

Twisted Helix 

Tortoni #1

 

[John Stonedwell]

Hi folks.

So finished with the chop on day 73 and 74. Now the tent is empty and time for a decent clean before the next batch goes in. 

I will post a final entry with some bud shots and a smoke report once the ladies have been trimmed and jarred for some curing. 

Hanging and chilling... 

[PsyCLown]

Awesome! Cannot wait to see the lineup of the bud once its dried and trimmed.  

[The Grass Baas]

Definitely going to need those blue crutches in the background after smoking this. 

Excellent work  

[John Stonedwell]

Morning folks.

So it's been a while and I thought we can close this diary with some bud shots. A couple of things went wrong with this grow, one major of which was too little defoliation. This resulted in a lot of underdeveloped bud under the canopy that stole some energy and resulted in smaller mains than what I would have liked. But so we learn.

I haven't done a smoke test on any of the ladies, I want to go for an 8 week cure before I start to light it up. Most of the bud went into the jar on the 22nd and 23rd of August so will start toking up in October. 

I decided to relegate all under developed bud and popcorn to the trim bin as I hate trimming overall and small larfy bud just kills my mood and willingness to enjoy the trim.. so with close to 100g's of popcorn tossed the final yield for buds in the jar ended up at 199g's

I am super excited about my next run, got 4 Old School Genetics strains from @Golden-Goose, 2 strains from Motherland genetics as well as 2 exceptional InHouse cuts from my man @PsyCLown. I hope to remedy all my mistakes with this past grow on the next run.

Thanx for all the constructive input from fellow forum members, you really helped a lot. 

So here we go..

Bubblegum 

GSC

Palomino 

Tortoni #1

Tortoni #2

Twisted Helix 

Next run

[Golden-Goose]

So far so good. 

[John Stonedwell]

8 minutes ago, Golden-Goose said:

So far so good. 

Yeah very impressed thus far. 100% germination rate on all the OSG seeds and in some packs I even got 6 seeds instead of 5 which is an awesome bonus. 

Will post a diary tracking their progress in the near future. Running the White Afghan Skunk, OSG Cheese, White Bubblegum and Super Silver Haze 98