highchome Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Seeds are here I've been awol on the forum for a while, looking forward to being more active and seeing how everyone's grows go 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 well well well, look what the cat dragged in!!! glad to have you back for round 2 bro!! lets see what we have learned since last time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Welcome back! Good luck with the comp! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Seeds dropped at around 21:00 today Medium: I'll be growing in coco/perlite using hortimix ferts. Grow space: 1x1x1.8m box lined with pandafilm Lights for flower: 240w quantum board purchased from @Light It Up I'm really looking forward to this and watching everyone's grows. Good luck everyone. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 5/6/2021 at 2:44 PM, CreX said: lets see what we have learned since last time 1) Get a proper lights (I finally got a nice QB) 2) I @#$@#%#$%# hate spider mites 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 14 hours ago, highchome said: 1) Get a proper lights (I finally got a nice QB) 2) I @#$@#%#$%# hate spider mites Yea dude!! Tops light you got there... These qb distributors are really stepping up the local grow scene quality! And can't grow wrong with the hortimix... What ratio are you following? Supplied ratio or custom? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 24 hours in water, no roots yet but all three sank, so I'll leave them for another 12 hours. If nothing after that I think I'll plant them in jiffies anyway. Leaving them too longer in water makes nervous. I've placed the container on a router, which keeps it warm :). But even so I think its pretty cool at night here, so that may be slowing things down a bit. 6 hours ago, CreX said: And can't grow wrong with the hortimix... What ratio are you following? Supplied ratio or custom? Custom based on the last few grows. I can't remember where I got it from originally, but its roughly this now (EC targets) Seedling Early Veg Late Veg Early Bloom Late Bloom 500 1400 1500 1400 1600 I've not been checking my runoff EC for quite a while now, I've not had any issues. But I think for this grow I'll be more careful and do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Seeds can drown.... plate them, they are moist... let em breathe. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Prom said: Seeds can drown.... plate them, they are moist... let em breathe. Yeah and they can drown quickly too. These seeds are fresh. Temps are just a bit low after this weather we've had, and I expect everyone's seeds to be above ground within the next 5 days. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Vaper Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 24 hours in water, no roots yet but all three sank, so I'll leave them for another 12 hours. If nothing after that I think I'll plant them in jiffies anyway. Leaving them too longer in water makes nervous. I've placed the container on a router, which keeps it warm :). But even so I think its pretty cool at night here, so that may be slowing things down a bit. Custom based on the last few grows. I can't remember where I got it from originally, but its roughly this now (EC targets)Seedling Early Veg Late Veg Early Bloom Late Bloom 500 1400 1500 1400 1600 I've not been checking my runoff EC for quite a while now, I've not had any issues. But I think for this grow I'll be more careful and do so. I'm on 24 hour's this side as well. Very rare but I usually chuck into grow bombs (jiffies) come 36 hours just in case I've buggered up some how and nature takes over.Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Totemic said: Yeah and they can drown quickly too. 1 hour ago, Prom said: Seeds can drown.... plate them, they are moist... let em breathe. Thanks, I appreciate the advice. Planting now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 Planted out into jiffies. This forum is amazing! Thanks again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Sweet EC targets... I meant what ratio of the 3 so you use? How much grow how much micro and how much bloom in veg do you use, and same for flower. I ran your same ec values, but for veg, I used 1:1:1 for micro grow and bloom And in flower I went to 1:0.5:2 micro grow and bloom Had very decent results like that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 You shouldn't glass seeds longer as 12 hours, enough soaking for sure but after 12 hours.. they start to suffocate and get pissed off or even simply die in that glass. The swimmers do in general better as the sinkers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 hours ago, CreX said: Sweet EC targets... I meant what ratio of the 3 so you use? For veg I use only A and B 1.5A:1B As soon as a flip I start using bloom (MPK) and switch to a ratio of 8.4A:8.4B:1MPK For both veg & boom I also add CalMag and Silicone to the mix Its been a long time since I worked that out, I think it was based on their recommended ratios. So far that worked really well for me. However now that you ask I'll compare to what you are doing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Prom said: You shouldn't glass seeds longer as 12 hours, enough soaking for sure I've mostly grown from clones, so my germination technique can clearly do with some work. For the next few days I'll going to be obsessively watching for any growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, highchome said: For veg I use only A and B 1.5A:1B As soon as a flip I start using bloom (MPK) and switch to a ratio of 8.4A:8.4B:1MPK For both veg & boom I also add CalMag and Silicone to the mix Its been a long time since I worked that out, I think it was based on their recommended ratios. So far that worked really well for me. However now that you ask I'll compare to what you are doing sjoe, that low on the mpk? i ran out of mpk the most especially when i move to flower. even the recommended ratio from hortimix uses a butt load more mpk than that. also, thats a high grow value, you want to limit the nitrogen in flower once you flip... but to be fair, i have seen guys use hortimix in a wide variety of ways and generally they are led to success. when i was using hortimix i was getting good per plant weights, above 70g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 hours ago, CreX said: sjoe, that low on the mpk? i ran out of mpk the most especially when i move to flower. but to be fair, i have seen guys use hortimix in a wide variety of ways and generally they are led to success. Yeah that MPK ratio was worrying me as soon as I sent it. I'll do the numbers again and maybe adjust that a bit, and maybe drop the N. But as you say hortimix seems to be fairly tolerant... Still better to get it closer to ideal, maybe the plants will do even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 I'm going to copy @Promand vent my flower tent into my veg tent. My flower and veg light cycle should mean there is always something keeping the veg + clone tent warm. Unfortunately that wont help for germination as my flower tent is being used for drying this week. Not that nearly having a bunch of dry buds is ever actually unfortunate... I think I'll use an old fish tank heater in a container under the jiffies for now. Its pretty cold this week and the stress of waiting to see them break the surface after having them in water possibly to long may be to much if they are slow . I don't have heating pads and I'm not sure how much I trust them without temperature control or at the very least some good testing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkPharm Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 hours ago, Prom said: You shouldn't glass seeds longer as 12 hours, enough soaking for sure but after 12 hours.. they start to suffocate and get pissed off or even simply die in that glass. The swimmers do in general better as the sinkers. I have forgotten seeds in a shot glass before for 72hours. They had 2cm long tap roots and were just fine after planting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The exception always confirms the rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 hours ago, CreX said: even the recommended ratio from hortimix I just realised that we may be talking about different things. My ratios are in weight of the dry ferts, I think you are talking about the ratio once you've mixed a concentrate. Sorry about the confusion there, I should have specified. I skip the concentrate step and make a 60L batch from dry ferts directly. However I still want to go and check my numbers again, so thanks either way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreX Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, highchome said: I just realised that we may be talking about different things. My ratios are in weight of the dry ferts, I think you are talking about the ratio once you've mixed a concentrate. Sorry about the confusion there, I should have specified. I skip the concentrate step and make a 60L batch from dry ferts directly. However I still want to go and check my numbers again, so thanks either way see if you cant find some 5l bottles and make some premix with the stuff - its not just coz the site recommends it...it will really take you half the time to make a 60l batch of nutes going forward, if anything, that should excite you the most hahaha i put double of everything into the 5l premix, along with a drop or 2 of food colour to distinguish them. i have no input about the dry ferts... i have only used part B as a dry fert, but its just calcuim nitrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highchome Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Update: Day 4 of germination Its alllliive! All three seeds have just broken the surface. They should all be up by the morning. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Looking good! I'd recommend adding some MPK to the mix for veg as well, although really up to you. If the nutes have worked well for you as you are doing them, perhaps stick to it for the comp and experiment afterwards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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