Weskush Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 @Naughty.Psychonaut i think that everyone has some kind of trust and/or faith issues during these crazy times that we are living in at the moment. Enjoy the moment. It's the only gift that you can be sure of brother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naughty.Psychonaut Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 @Weskush brother thanks for the motivated words of positiviy just wana point out I am not being a sad sack feeling sorry for myself or trying to be negative with what I said about this topic so far. I wasn't trying to bring anyone down, I was simply being realistic and with a pure intent. thanks for the video also, I have watched and read countless pieces of information on this very topic and I am sure the deeper you go the more you'll understand what I said here. that video being a good scratch at the surface yeah, didn't even take the prohibition era in account when talking bout how times changed everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty.Psychonaut Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 people also rave on about DP being alive and well still to this day and you can just simply find the exact genetics at every second seed bank and every one of them claim to be legit and backing it with stories of being directly linked to the founders or whatever may be the case, sadly it's all about marketing and selling seeds. being from south africa gives a lot of our locals the idea that we have original genetics right at our finger tips, while that is true to a certain extent we certainly will be last to get our hands on the legit shit with people like Mel Frank and other big names out there. here is a video of Mel Frank himself talking bout the DP that gained the buzz back in the day, just a quick little youtube search, not going in too deep here, but listen to the first words he speaks in this video, this is very important to what we're discussing here... straight out the horse's mouth "I WISH I HAD THE ORIGINAL DURBAN POISON"... lol now if Mel Frank himself sais that, I am gona have a hard time believing some random Richard about the genetic being easy to find. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLazyFisherman Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Very true. And the Dp seeds that are advertised 8-10weeks flower....definitely not the real dealSent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 We hijacking the Skunk thread. I would love to share more info about the Durban, and have written a 2500 plus word article on it that has yet to be published. Very nice video you shared and important to know from the source what is happening. Its the same sentiment I get from sharing Durban seeds to medical grows in Lesotho, hence my words further up on this post about seedsman. However, he was not the only person to collect Durban. There are a couple breeders that collected them, seeds went to the USA, Europe and Canada ( Dana Larsen ). Nothing came of the seeds in Canada but we also had a local breeder ( Afropips ) who worked with Durban in the UK in the early 2000's, on top of that in the late 70's, early 80's we had a smuggler start a Dagga coffeeshop in Amsterdam. He specialised in Durban. Glad to say Durban Poison is rated as the top 10% rarest profiles on Phylos and that specific Durban has been tracked for about 40 years from source. Its now sold as a hybrid on growlikejoe.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jay Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said: Think about this, if there is a specific guy who has his hands on a genetic and been keeping it pure by genetic isolation and he knows that the whole world is looking for the strain, there is gona be 1 of 2 outcomes. 1 - he will protect it at all costs and will be almost impossible to get. 2 - he makes it available and everyone will have it. this forum / thread is also a good example for how badly people want this strain. from all corners of the earth people are looking for it. I put the little bit of faith I can gather in the idea that someone probably has grown out a couple of the seeds from the place you talking about, which would be very plausible since they're for sale to anyone who can find their way to the website you just dropped a link to. and that crumbles my trust in the idea that they might have the real deal profile. so much has happened and changed and time has passed that these days you will get a different strain, with a different lineage completely, but carries a profile more similar to the original skunk profile than the actual original skunk genetic profile that gained all the buzz back in the day. and we wouldn't even know it. Just saw this post now. Being in cannabis you learn to grow trust issues, but its a basic human requirement, trust. Without a doubt, Skunk, Durban is used as a marketing tool and probably most strains available have nothing to do with the original name. Skunk for instance became famous in the UK as it was used by police in media and generally was used to refer to highgrade indoor, Skunk/Chronic. So what happened, smokers would ask their dealers for the real skunk. You have to filter through the BS, read up on people with street cred ( Maljim, Todd McCormick, Joseph Pietri, Mel Frank, Sam the Skunkman, Mowgli Holmes ) find out about the strains and then start growing them. Edited August 19, 2021 by Chris Jay 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Sunday at 08:03 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:03 AM On 8/6/2021 at 1:15 AM, Naughty.Psychonaut said: this is key brother, original skunk#1 does not exist anymore. well, I shouldn't say it doesn't exist at all, because I haven't met every single grower on the planet, but even the highly regarded growers of the world who are doing some big shit, the cannabis kings can't even get their hands on the skunk#1 everyone is looking for. chances are it might still be growing somewhere, but probably not somewhere it's meant to be found. I would bet it's either being shared amongst a select few who know what they are doing and care to preserve the genetic, or it just doesn't exist anymore. next best thing is phenohunting a variety of hybrids that some breeder is calling "skunk#1" because he made a cross that seemed similar to the skunk and you might find something similar to what you're looking for. this is really only if one has ever had the privilege to experience original skunk and can remember what to look for, otherwise how would you even tell if it was what it's supposed to be, even if you do find the original genetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Sunday at 08:48 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:48 AM On 8/6/2021 at 9:43 AM, Naughty.Psychonaut said: to be honest I was under the impression that all the original genetics from the plant that was grown to cross with, which would have been this "skunk" weed, had seen so many different grow rooms/setups all over the world and now exists in other strains to certain extent, but the first true "skunk" unbread or crossed with, was called "skunk#1" and that it's basically just a myth these days could be way off with this, but hey this is what I have heard and how my perception of the situation sits at the moment, if you could tell me more on the subject? maybe I should dig into it a little On 8/18/2021 at 4:49 AM, Naughty.Psychonaut said: I do have trust issues... aswell as faith issues yeah all is said with good intent brother, thanks I know there are couple facilities out there that have been banking pure plant genetics through the years, but we're not getting our seeds from them. Think about this, if there is a specific guy who has his hands on a genetic and been keeping it pure by genetic isolation and he knows that the whole world is looking for the strain, there is gona be 1 of 2 outcomes. 1 - he will protect it at all costs and will be almost impossible to get. 2 - he makes it available and everyone will have it. this forum / thread is also a good example for how badly people want this strain. from all corners of the earth people are looking for it. I put the little bit of faith I can gather in the idea that someone probably has grown out a couple of the seeds from the place you talking about, which would be very plausible since they're for sale to anyone who can find their way to the website you just dropped a link to. and that crumbles my trust in the idea that they might have the real deal profile. so much has happened and changed and time has passed that these days you will get a different strain, with a different lineage completely, but carries a profile more similar to the original skunk profile than the actual original skunk genetic profile that gained all the buzz back in the day. and we wouldn't even know it. I have the original skunk one ordered thru sense seeds came from the cannabis castle 28 years ago it took a bit but I got a few to sprout and r now 4ft tall m ready to clone it was some of the best weed I’ve ever smoked and can’t wait to again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Sunday at 08:52 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:52 AM (edited) I do have and I feminized years ago ORIGINAL Skunk 1 Last true breeding strain in the world Edited Sunday at 08:54 AM by Skunk1Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Tuesday at 05:16 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:16 AM Original Skunk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Tuesday at 05:22 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:22 AM Looking for investors to help me get this Back in the grow rooms and dispenserys for precetage of sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty.Psychonaut Posted Tuesday at 12:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:27 PM Sorry bub, saying you got the original skunk #1, and also saying you bought it off a seed bank is two contradicting statements on opposite sides of the spectrum. It also gives indication of your level of understanding on genetics. If you just simply bought it online it means any random person can buy them? Which would be counterintuitive to anyone protecting the genetic. Can't make it available to the masses while also keeping it "pure". Who ever has it, if anyone, that person would know to keep it away from the masses, thus protecting it. Fact of the matter is, in cultivation the closest you'll get to it is a cross that closely resembles something like it. In habitat you may find a phenotype closer to the real thing, but who's gona do the work to travel to all the different places and hike hike countless mountains and search through millions of landraces? Never in a million years would a online seed bank just simply sell something like that. If I go onto online seed banks today every second seed bank is selling "skunk#1", so it's pretty obvious not all of them could be the true thing. So which one is? Most likely none of them. They all took shit that closely resembles it, cross that and call the new thing skunk#1. 100% all my money on the table sais if you buy all those "skunk#1" seeds and run them all, you'll end up with 100 different phenos. Indicating that they're all just crosses. 99.999999% of all modern cannabis genetics are al hybrids and polyhybrids. You can do the research, I can type away till my fingers fall off, but the info is out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:55 PM Shows what u know I have the original skunk 1 ordered out of the sense seeds catalog witch came from the cannabis castle many moons ago I know what I have ,and I have smoked lbs of it it is the pure strain original skunk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk1Dave Posted Tuesday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:57 PM And it is and has been taken care of but going in 30 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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