Ill_Evan Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 5 hours ago, SAgrower said: Pappa J sells a PM solution which apparently helps with bud rot also. Have you looked into it? Already got some military grade fungicide from Protek that I'll be using as a preventative or on sight of early signs of PM. The bud rot I'm hoping to sort out with lowering my humidity and temperature in late flower. The new grow room will hopefully help with this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 After 4 days of toil, I have finally moved my setup into the new room. Everything is fresh and clean again, for as long as that will last. There's a bit more space between the tents so I can definitely clean more regularly. I had thought I might be cheeky and squeeze in another 2.4x1.2 tent but I'll probably only get another 1.2x1.2. I am thinking of doing an organic tent with fabric pots and FF soil. Stay tuned. Before I transferred the KmintZ, I gave them a spray of fungicide in case any PM decided to hitch a ride into the new spot. I decided to change the layout of the fans in the flower tent a bit. Instead of having the two fans both on the ceiling blowing down, I now have one in a corner on the ground, and one on the opposite corner but above the canopy line. I do believe there was plenty of stagnant air below the canopy and I feel it had contributed to the development of the powdery mildew in the last harvest. In order to allow the bottom fan the space and ability to blow without unnecessary resistance, I have removed one pot from the tent from one of the corners. I have taken the mature ZxP plants from the veg tent, potted them up and got them into the flower tent. They were looking really keen for the flip, and they had grown a little past where I usually would have wanted them, but the move had taken a little longer than expected. Due to having one less pot in the flower tent, I only potted up 5 ZxP and have reserved the remaining 6 pots for the upcoming Wedding Cake plants. The KmintZ clones in the veg tent are developing roots, also took roughly 3 weeks. Winning! This is also the first time I'm taking clones within the first week of flower instead of keeping mothers and I can see the difference between clones taken in veg. The KmintZ clones are pushing pistols quite heavily, so I predict a period of reveg. Not to worry, I think the timing might work out quite well as the KmintZ in the flower tent have still quite a bit to go. I will pot the clones after they have the vent open for a day or two to climatise. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCPT Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said: After 4 days of toil, I have finally moved my setup into the new room. Everything is fresh and clean again, for as long as that will last. There's a bit more space between the tents so I can definitely clean more regularly. I had thought I might be cheeky and squeeze in another 2.4x1.2 tent but I'll probably only get another 1.2x1.2. I am thinking of doing an organic tent with fabric pots and FF soil. Stay tuned. Before I transferred the KmintZ, I gave them a spray of fungicide in case any PM decided to hitch a ride into the new spot. I decided to change the layout of the fans in the flower tent a bit. Instead of having the two fans both on the ceiling blowing down, I now have one in a corner on the ground, and one on the opposite corner but above the canopy line. I do believe there was plenty of stagnant air below the canopy and I feel it had contributed to the development of the powdery mildew in the last harvest. In order to allow the bottom fan the space and ability to blow without unnecessary resistance, I have removed one pot from the tent from one of the corners. I have taken the mature ZxP plants from the veg tent, potted them up and got them into the flower tent. They were looking really keen for the flip, and they had grown a little past where I usually would have wanted them, but the move had taken a little longer than expected. Due to having one less pot in the flower tent, I only potted up 5 ZxP and have reserved the remaining 6 pots for the upcoming Wedding Cake plants. The KmintZ clones in the veg tent are developing roots, also took roughly 3 weeks. Winning! This is also the first time I'm taking clones within the first week of flower instead of keeping mothers and I can see the difference between clones taken in veg. The KmintZ clones are pushing pistols quite heavily, so I predict a period of reveg. Not to worry, I think the timing might work out quite well as the KmintZ in the flower tent have still quite a bit to go. I will pot the clones after they have the vent open for a day or two to climatise. Now that is a sweet setup.. respect. Like the shiny and clean and plants looking great. What fungicide are you using for prevention? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORGANinc. Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Organic tent? Sounds like a jol What did you have in mind for the pot size and feeding regiments? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 10 hours ago, ChrisCPT said: What fungicide are you using for prevention? Protek Tenazole. It's both a preventative and a corrective. The goal of course is to make the conditions in the grow room such that no PM even begins to develop, but I did want a something to use on the KmintZ that was up until now surrounded by plants with spots of PM. 2 hours ago, ORGANinc. said: Organic tent? Sounds like a jol What did you have in mind for the pot size and feeding regiments? It's going to be a 1.2x1.2 tent. I'm thinking 400W of LEDs, 5x 20L pots and the full BioBizz range with FF Premium Classic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCPT Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I experimented with Tenazole a few years ago. Killed each and every plant within a week That being said, I sprayed them 4 or 5 days AFTER a spray of copper fungicide. There was clear copper residue left on the plants when the Tenazole was introduced. I have always suspected that the two chemicals reacted with each other and that caused the Armageddon. Plants were also relatively young at that that stage. But since it seems that your plants are not adversely effected by the Tenazole I am quite keen on giving it a go again myself. It is a systemic fungicide (not many of those on the market) and works awesome on other plants and trees in my garden. One treatment should be enough to keep any PM at bay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden-Goose Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 People often overdo it with Tenazole. I would not use a dose stronger than 0.7ml per litre. To kill fungal spores in your room and on your plants, you can also use Imazigard fogger. Safe to use at any stage of growth. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Golden-Goose said: People often overdo it with Tenazole. I would not use a dose stronger than 0.7ml per litre. The guy at the shop gave me a dose recommendation of 0.67ml per L, so spot on! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCPT Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, Golden-Goose said: People often overdo it with Tenazole. I would not use a dose stronger than 0.7ml per litre. To kill fungal spores in your room and on your plants, you can also use Imazigard fogger. Safe to use at any stage of growth. Thanks Just to be 100% sure, I can set off the Imazigard fogger while plants are in the room? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden-Goose Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChrisCPT said: Thanks Just to be 100% sure, I can set off the Imazigard fogger while plants are in the room? 100% bro. That is why I like it so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 I have potted the KmintZ clones, 8 in total. I will only need 6 of them, but you can never be too careful with a new strain! The Wedding Cake plants will soon be potted into the flower tent, thinking maybe another week. I have also weighed the trimmed tops of the ZxP, as well as the Gorilla Zkittlez. After I have trimmed the bottoms of the ZxP, I will add it to the total with the tops, but for now the ZxP weight only includes the tops. ZxP Tops: 115g Gorilla Zkittlez: 173g 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 Lots to update! I have switched my lighting schedule around in order to have my lights-on during the day instead of at night. Our house has gotten a solar power upgrade recently so I'd like to take advantage of that to offset the electricity costs. I can accommodate the additional heat during the day now so it's a win. I have cleaned up the bottoms of the ZxP that went in last week and I have also switched the reservoir tap on, so auto feeding from here on. While I was at it, I also put the Wedding Cake plants into the flower tent after a preventative treatment of spinosad. They will be top fed for a week then the reservoir will be put on for them as well. Veg tent is looking kinda empty now! I will take the Wedding Cake clones in a week after they have settled in the flower tent for a bit. I have finally finished trimming all the ZxP lower branches from the drying tent and have added them to the total along with the tops. The total for the last batch of ZxP was 257g. So the ZxP harvests in order have been 87g -> 136g -> 257g. All 6 plants each. I think that's progress! Although the yield has increased, I have a mega bunch of popcorn nugs, not including the tiny nugs I just decided to throw into the trim bin for making extracts. I would like to work towards developing the buds more independently on each plant and have fewer lower branches. I think my scrog net game has also improved somewhat as well! We will have to wait until the big 'ol flops start flopping to test it out. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weskush Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Those two standing loud and proud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Weskush said: Those two standing loud and proud Definitely keeper material, it's two of the KmintZ. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Joe Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Sho that looks like its hard and sticky and what a cola 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 This is week 5 for the KmintZ, week 2 of ZxP, and week 1 of Wedding Cake. I've taken clones of the Wedding Cake plants in the flower tent, and also trimmed up the lower branches. The KmintZ continues to push on in the flower tent and is looking great. At about this time in the last batch I was already getting bitch slapped by PM, now not so much. Small victories! The KmintZ clones in the veg tent also appear to have fully reveged now and are growing more in size. I've setup the new Organic Tent™ and have the materials ready to go. Inspired by @The Grass Baas I am going to train 4 plants under a net in a 1.2x1.2 tent and see if I can get some chonky heads for the boys. I'll be using 20L pots, FF Premium Classic soil, BioBizz nutes and 320W total LED spread between two 240W QBs set to ~160W each. I have some clones ready to go so I will probably do a round of ye olde ZxP. I'm thinking of reducing the pot count in the big flower tent and growing all the pots with the same strain at the same stage of growth after finishing up what's currently in there. Seeing as I have the additional Organic Tent™ to do alternative strains I feel I am wasting the potential of the bigger tent by not doing training, plus having the AutoPot system will make it a breeze as I will only have to worry about the training and not watering every plant by hand. Yes indeed 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Ooooooooowwwwweeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see that canopy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Here's a picture update of the plants in the flower tent; KmintZ ZxP x2 ZxP x6 Wedding Cake Overview 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin7318 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 How far along is that ZXP? Looks nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Joe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I have heard & read good things about that wedding cake strain. So i guess im gonna be here to see her finish... Rest of the grow is looking super. 8 hours ago, The Grass Baas said: Ooooooooowwwwweeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see that canopy. Oh hell yeah. Gonna be a good one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Martin7318 said: How far along is that ZXP? Looks nice Week 5, it's the same as the KmintZ but the ZxP looks almost more mature from the amber pistols even though they were put into flower at the same time. I want to push the ZxP this time around and see what kinda colours come out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_StonedTrooper Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Ill_Evan said: This Show me the way 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 Organic Tent™ is a go! Four ZxP plants have been transferred into the 1.2x1.2 tent and I will be running a 18/6 light schedule to keep the plants in veg so I can train them up. I also threw a nice helping of mycoroot right where I transplanted them into the pots and just watered with plain water as a first watering. I will give them a few days to just settle in their new spots then I will make some chops and top all four. I have done 8-branch manifolds quite successfully in the past when I was still doing DWC so I think I may just do the same with these four under a net and see what happens. I am also making moves in my veg tent. Seeing as I want to do all plants in the big flower tent all at once instead of staggering them 6 at a time, I need to start developing mother plants of the strains I want to do so I can take the 12-18 clones required all at once. Then thereafter, I will be able to just simply take clones from the plants in the big tent before I flip them to flower, or just continue with the mothers. I'll decide closer to the time. So far, I have potted up two ZxP plants to be mothers for future clones, then I will do the same for the winning pheno of the KmintZ clones, and then lastly the Wedding Cake that is still sitting in the propagator. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Big flower tent keeps on pumping. Looking at roughly two weeks before chopping the most developed ladies. KmintZ ZxP ZxP (Young) Wedding Cake Some of the KmintZ clones still look like they are revegging and have some funky looking top leaves. I had initially kept the lights on 24hrs during the beginning of the reveg and then later switched back to 18/6, but I am going to switch back to 24hrs until every plant, including the Wedding Cake clones, look like they are completely in veg stage. I think I will top the Organic Tent™ in the next day or two and begin their training. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stonedwell Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ill_Evan said: Big flower tent keeps on pumping. Looking at roughly two weeks before chopping the most developed ladies. KmintZ ZxP ZxP (Young) Wedding Cake Some of the KmintZ clones still look like they are revegging and have some funky looking top leaves. I had initially kept the lights on 24hrs during the beginning of the reveg and then later switched back to 18/6, but I am going to switch back to 24hrs until every plant, including the Wedding Cake clones, look like they are completely in veg stage. I think I will top the Organic Tent™ in the next day or two and begin their training. Great job man. I have to be honest I love the flower structure of that ZxP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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