The Grass Baas Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 What's up ouens. I can sit here and say I have wanted to do everyone a favour and skip the boring part of veg but to be really honest, I just wanted to make sure I do not have any fuck ups while posting a diary. I know it is part of the game and that is why we are here...... to learn. I had a bit of a fuckup on my first scrog grow so I was abit hesitant. I managed to isolate the problems which I will briefly discuss in this diary and ironed them out with a couple of minor changes. So here goes. Strain: Mango Sapphire by HSO Medium: Coco/Perlite Nutes: Calmag, GHE/TA TriPart and Ripen always fed at a PH of 6.0 Lights: 2x 480watt (DIY build and the other Kingbrite) 10 clones were taken and rooted for 2 weeks. Once they were done, they we moved into small 12cm pots, vegged out for 3 weeks and then only the best 8 would be transplanted to 20cm pots. Vegged for 3 weeks and then transplanted into 20Lt Fabric pots. When the plants were moved into their 20LT Fabric Forever homes, the net was lowered and the tucking began. Once the net was filled to about 100%, the lights were flipped. Day before flip Day 2 of Flower This is where my last mistake was made. Previously, when I flipped the plants into flower after filling the net, something went wrong. I have a slight suspicion the plants did not flip when I flipped and it felt like the stretch went on waaaaay too long before showing any pistils. I think the first bud sites were visible at day 20. This is very late. Even after soooo much defoliation there was still tons of growth coming up. I ended up having a shit ton of bud but everything was popcorn because there wasn't any place for the buds to fatten up. So how I solved it this time was to do a flip but make sure the plants would go into flower. The lights were switched off for about 30 hours and when they came into their first day of flower, I would keep them on an 11 hour on and 13 hour off cycle just to make sure nothing carries on vegging. This seemed to work very well. After day 2 a stretch was already visible and I could see this time it was on the money and that each site would stretch out into their own space. The ladies ended up stretching so nicely that I had to source an extra net very quickly to help support the buds. Luckily @John Stonedwell came to the rescue and donated a second net to the ladies which they were very happy for . The ladies are now on day 46 of flower and should be finshed by the week 8 mark which is in 10 days. They have been getting Ripen until now and soon they will have all the nutes removed with clean water to try get the plants to start fading and consuming the last bit of nutes that is left in them. They will only get clean PH 6.0 water from today until they are done. So far I am extremely happy with the progress. No hickups at all this time. I feel like this was a good grow and that there will be some very nice product coming out. It is smelling unreal in there. Not strong at all so I am not using a carbon filter this time. I would put it on the very sweet and fruity side. Can't wait to taste them. Thanks to all the guys on the forum that I have learnt from, spending hours observing every step they take to try immitate their grows has helped me learn and understand what is needed for a succesful grow. I look forward to sharing the last few updates into harvest and eventually a final report on the dried product. Thanks for watching. 3 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORGANinc. Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, The Grass Baas said: What's up ouens. I can sit here and say I have wanted to do everyone a favour and skip the boring part of veg but to be really honest, I just wanted to make sure I do not have any fuck ups while posting a diary. I know it is part of the game and that is why we are here...... to learn. I had a bit of a fuckup on my first scrog grow so I was abit hesitant. I managed to isolate the problems which I will briefly discuss in this diary and ironed them out with a couple of minor changes. So here goes. Strain: Mango Sapphire by HSO Medium: Coco/Perlite Nutes: Calmag, GHE/TA TriPart and Ripen always fed at a PH of 6.0 Lights: 2x 480watt (DIY build and the other Kingbrite) 10 clones were taken and rooted for 2 weeks. Once they were done, they we moved into small 12cm pots, vegged out for 3 weeks and then only the best 8 would be transplanted to 20cm pots. Vegged for 3 weeks and then transplanted into 20Lt Fabric pots. When the plants were moved into their 20LT Fabric Forever homes, the net was lowered and the tucking began. Once the net was filled to about 100%, the lights were flipped. Day before flip Day 2 of Flower This is where my last mistake was made. Previously, when I flipped the plants into flower after filling the net, something went wrong. I have a slight suspicion the plants did not flip when I flipped and it felt like the stretch went on waaaaay too long before showing any pistils. I think the first bud sites were visible at day 20. This is very late. Even after soooo much defoliation there was still tons of growth coming up. I ended up having a shit ton of bud but everything was popcorn because there wasn't any place for the buds to fatten up. So how I solved it this time was to do a flip but make sure the plants would go into flower. The lights were switched off for about 30 hours and when they came into their first day of flower, I would keep them on an 11 hour on and 13 hour off cycle just to make sure nothing carries on vegging. This seemed to work very well. After day 2 a stretch was already visible and I could see this time it was on the money and that each site would stretch out into their own space. The ladies ended up stretching so nicely that I had to source an extra net very quickly to help support the buds. Luckily @John Stonedwell came to the rescue and donated a second net to the ladies which they were very happy for . The ladies are now on day 46 of flower and should be finshed by the week 8 mark which is in 10 days. They have been getting Ripen until now and soon they will have all the nutes removed with clean water to try get the plants to start fading and consuming the last bit of nutes that is left in them. They will only get clean PH 6.0 water from today until they are done. So far I am extremely happy with the progress. No hickups at all this time. I feel like this was a good grow and that there will be some very nice product coming out. It is smelling unreal in there. Not strong at all so I am not using a carbon filter this time. I would put it on the very sweet and fruity side. Can't wait to taste them. Thanks to all the guys on the forum that I have learnt from, spending hours observing every step they take to try immitate their grows has helped me learn and understand what is needed for a succesful grow. I look forward to sharing the last few updates into harvest and eventually a final report on the dried product. Thanks for watching. Talk about blowing the lid off that shit on a FRIDAY! Lol very very nicely done my man. That deserves a big pat on the back. Crushed it! 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 The bar has officially been raised 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stonedwell Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 12 hours ago, The Grass Baas said: What's up ouens. I can sit here and say I have wanted to do everyone a favour and skip the boring part of veg but to be really honest, I just wanted to make sure I do not have any fuck ups while posting a diary. I know it is part of the game and that is why we are here...... to learn. I had a bit of a fuckup on my first scrog grow so I was abit hesitant. I managed to isolate the problems which I will briefly discuss in this diary and ironed them out with a couple of minor changes. So here goes. Strain: Mango Sapphire by HSO Medium: Coco/Perlite Nutes: Calmag, GHE/TA TriPart and Ripen always fed at a PH of 6.0 Lights: 2x 480watt (DIY build and the other Kingbrite) 10 clones were taken and rooted for 2 weeks. Once they were done, they we moved into small 12cm pots, vegged out for 3 weeks and then only the best 8 would be transplanted to 20cm pots. Vegged for 3 weeks and then transplanted into 20Lt Fabric pots. When the plants were moved into their 20LT Fabric Forever homes, the net was lowered and the tucking began. Once the net was filled to about 100%, the lights were flipped. Day before flip Day 2 of Flower This is where my last mistake was made. Previously, when I flipped the plants into flower after filling the net, something went wrong. I have a slight suspicion the plants did not flip when I flipped and it felt like the stretch went on waaaaay too long before showing any pistils. I think the first bud sites were visible at day 20. This is very late. Even after soooo much defoliation there was still tons of growth coming up. I ended up having a shit ton of bud but everything was popcorn because there wasn't any place for the buds to fatten up. So how I solved it this time was to do a flip but make sure the plants would go into flower. The lights were switched off for about 30 hours and when they came into their first day of flower, I would keep them on an 11 hour on and 13 hour off cycle just to make sure nothing carries on vegging. This seemed to work very well. After day 2 a stretch was already visible and I could see this time it was on the money and that each site would stretch out into their own space. The ladies ended up stretching so nicely that I had to source an extra net very quickly to help support the buds. Luckily @John Stonedwell came to the rescue and donated a second net to the ladies which they were very happy for . The ladies are now on day 46 of flower and should be finshed by the week 8 mark which is in 10 days. They have been getting Ripen until now and soon they will have all the nutes removed with clean water to try get the plants to start fading and consuming the last bit of nutes that is left in them. They will only get clean PH 6.0 water from today until they are done. So far I am extremely happy with the progress. No hickups at all this time. I feel like this was a good grow and that there will be some very nice product coming out. It is smelling unreal in there. Not strong at all so I am not using a carbon filter this time. I would put it on the very sweet and fruity side. Can't wait to taste them. Thanks to all the guys on the forum that I have learnt from, spending hours observing every step they take to try immitate their grows has helped me learn and understand what is needed for a succesful grow. I look forward to sharing the last few updates into harvest and eventually a final report on the dried product. Thanks for watching. Yeah boy. Been begging you to post your mad ass shit, thank you Watch this space.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCPT Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Respect!!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin7318 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Holy crap, dude! This looks amazing! Definite GOALS right here! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 What is up folks. So the plaas has come to harvest time. Today was the last day of flower (day 56) and the girls have been getting clean water up until now. Last watering was 2 days ago. They will have full darkness for the next 24 to 36 hours. I will then chop them down, and hang them up sometime tomorrow to start the drying process. The plan is to dry them for about 10 to 14 days depending on the weather etc. and then straight to cure. So far the fade isn't as much as I would have liked and I will probably start my clean waterings a little earlier next time. I did get a little bit of purple popping in the last couple of days of ripening. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weskush Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Sterkte with the harvest bro. Are you wet trimming or just removing biggest fan leaves before hanging out to dry? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Weskush said: Sterkte with the harvest bro. Are you wet trimming or just removing biggest fan leaves before hanging out to dry? Hey man. Thanks. So happy harvest day is here. Usually I try hang the whole plant as is to dry, but with this being a scrog, I will have to cut the plants into pieces. I will therefore leave all plant material on to dry as there won't be any main stems. I prefer dry trimming waaaaay more than wet trimming. I will also be doing 4 plants seperate as I used two different lights. Both 480w, one with IR and the other I built myself. I want to see what the difference in bud structure, density, trichome and weights would be under the two different lights. Just an interesting experiment. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 Hoooozit guys. Thought I would share some final thoughts on my last grow. All the nugs that were exposed to direct light came out extremely dense and hard. Very happy with the outcome. I did however realize that I need to clean up even more. I came out with alot of fluff aswell. Have never experienced this kind of fluff. Underdeveloped nugs that look like leaves with trichome on it and that is it. So we learn. Drying was abit difficult with space. Did not expect so much but we managed to get them hanging with an average humidity just shy of 60%. We had big rains the first few days of harvest but I was not able to stretch the harvest longer than 10 days. Still came out very nice. The following are the numbers I got off the plants. I harvested each set of 4 plants under each light seperately to try get a better understanding of the two different lights and what product I get from it. I will name them "DIY" for the light I buildt and "KING" for the bought kingbrite light. DIY Prime Nugs: 312.7g Fluff: 353g Trim: 326g KING Prime Nugs: 437.4g Fluff: 268.2g Trim: 331g So as you can see from the numbers there is actually a huge difference between the lights in producing dense nugs. I have a feeling the kingbrite having red diodes is what makes the difference. I might actually buy a couple of Bloom booster lights from Kingbrite to supplement my DIY light. Will see. Through the weighing I just learnt what kind of cleaning up I am going to do in the future. Overall I am still happy and having 750g of proper prime nugs. Both batches were also trimmed with a trim bag and was also interesting to see what the bag dig with the fluff. I am defenitely aiming to get 1000g in the next harvest because getting 1g per watt would be very good with these LED lights. I would be over the moon with 1000g. (Just before anyone thinks I smoke kilos of weed, this gets shared between 3 people that are all heavy smokers ). Over all I am very happy with the harvest and how it came out. I give it a 10/10 for bag appeal. The flavour is nice and fruity, not a specific kind of fruit but like a bowl of fruit. In the flowering stages it reminded me of the smell when you walk into the smoothy section of a fruit shop. I love it. I didn't use a carbon filter this time simply because it was not the over powering smell I would get from other stanky strains. I enjoyed this strain so much that my next grow will be half of it and the other half Cheese donated by @John Stonedwell. Super excited for that grow. Will just add it to this diary. Unfortunately there might be a mistake that was made in the transplanting when I was not available and I think we might have the Cheese and Mango mixed under the scrog. Not a problem though. Will still count seperately. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed. Here is some nug porn. 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty.Psychonaut Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 fuk yeah man, well done!!! that nug porn made me... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkPharm Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Are you washing the trim and fluff? Bubble hash or extracts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 hours ago, SkunkPharm said: Are you washing the trim and fluff? Bubble hash or extracts? What's up man. I am doing several different things with trim and fluff. I have started pressing some of the fluff through 90micron bags, not big yields but not bad in colour. I haven't had the time to press everything or wash. I have only done 3 presses and smoked up the first ones. I did however use a 160micron sift screen and ran all my trim over it. Got a fair amount of dry sift hash which I also pressed with a 37micron bag but my yield was not great. I got just over 10%. I think I prefer what comes out after a wash and then pressing. I have gotten 40% before out of pressing bubble hash. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Baas Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) Howzit okes. I thought I would revive this thread abit as it's been over a year since I've posted. I have still been growing, but haven't been recording. There have been a few ups and a few downs. A few upgrades here and there. I've learnt to take it easy when it comes to adjusting anything. Often drastic changes can harm your grow. So the one upgrade I am really stoked about are the autopots. In the 1.2x2.4 tent I used to use 8x20L fabric pots. The runoff was ridiculous and the amount of water runoff I vacuumed was ridiculous. Now I've switched over to 6x15L autpots. Yes yes, I know what you're thinking. What about the yield? Surprisingly enough the yield was more on my last run (1st autopot run) than any other run. This is also excluding air domes at the bottom. Just leca. The air domes are the newest upgrade but haven't flowered in them yet. Will see the results in the next 2 or so months. Overall the autopots have been a fantastic addition and has reduced the amount of work a huge amount. Also using less nutrients. I made sure the cleanup was on point. This also reduced the amount of trimming I had to deal with and even better.....0 fluff. I repeat. Not a single drop of fluff. The numbers that came out were ridiculous. I have over 1kg of smokeable product. Obviously it is shared amongst a couple of us but what a take. I checked up on the roots and they looked pretty good to me. Nice and fully developed, and this is without the air domes. I'm very curious as to how much more I would yield with the air domes. I've checked online and the number being thrown around is that you will yield 130%. Now I don't quite know how to read that percentage but what I suspect is they estimate 30% on top of what you would get without them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. So basically. What they're saying is if I got 1kg I could get 1.3kg next? Sounds nuts. But let's see. I have also been thinking hard about adding bloom booster lights to the existing setup. Basically 240w on top of the existing 960w. That would put me up to 1200w and that would also increase yield. I can't imagine more than what I got but hell, let's see where this road goes. Please excuse the mess of a write up. I smoked some of the examples above and am struggling to stay focused. Please feel free to ask if I've missed anything. The strains weren't specific strains but some cuttings from a friend. The one that faded nice and dark purple yielded the most. I'll post the numbers below. Purple = 567.4g total Prime nugs: 232.2g Medium nugs: 175.4g Popcorn: 159.8g Green = 523.3g total Prime nugs: 189g Medium nugs: 172.3g Popcorn: 162g GRAND TOTAL: 1090.7g Basically. 2x480w LED lights, 6 autopots, T.A tripart, coco/perlite (bioleaf). Thanks for watching. Edited June 10, 2023 by The Grass Baas Photos 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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