jacks Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Eta Flippen just checked pricing of HPS lamps, my gawd. Looking for HPS sunmaster 250 watts, any recommendations for best price and delivery. Loaned some guy my equipment on basis to sell, eventually got it back with further mileage and no bulbs, no worries cause they were probably past expiry. But looking at R2000 just for bulbs. http://hortishop.co.za/product/hps-venture-high-output/ http://gthydro.co.za/products/101-bulb-hps-250w-hor.html http://growguru.co.za/shop/250w-hps-lamp/ Any other ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Wait till you buying 1000W or 2000W CMH for a room..... Dont skimp on bulbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Agreed , your bulb is what converts the electrical energy to energy your plant can use. Poor bulbs equal poor harvests. Haha the new lumatek high par 1000w bulbs are now over R1200 each so don't feel to bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 High PAR? What is the µmols? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 1798 Luminous Efficiency (lm/W): 150 PAR (umol/s): 1,798 Photo Flux (phyto-lm): 290,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Colour temp? Cos that also makes a difference remember... For those not following, I'm trying to demonstrate that although PAR is valuable, it is also subject to a number of variables that does not necessarily equate into "better" lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 2100k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Nice bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 If you care that much, buy hortilux. They're still the top producers of sodium under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I seem to think so. But could be very wrong. I think your best bet is to import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 If you wanting the lumatek bulbs you will have to import them. The best local hps bulbs you can get are osram plantastar , I use them as backup bulbs. The osrams are great for veg as well as the produce 30% extra blue light , I feel they better than cheap mh for veg. If you looking for cheap just go to your electrical wholesaler like vortex and buy an hps , why will be the cheapest. The real difference in bulbs comes on when you running multiple bulbs in flower. For example if you cheap bulb puts out say 5000 less luman it's not a huge train smash with one bulb , not the best but livable . Say then you run 5 bulbs each loosing 5000 luman all of a sudden you are loosing a lot of luman and wasting a lot of energy the plant could be using for the same amount of power used... hope this makes sense . Cheers GLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Thanks GLO, whats your take on using HPS/MH & LED together? Interested to know if there are any benefits or even negatives for the plant & your pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 That loss may effect people running high co2 and perfect environments, but I'm willing to bet, even on the large scale, the user error is greater than 25%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yes and no. While I do agree to a point it's also the fact that unfortunately not all bulbs are created equally . I have run cheap bulbs and the more expencive bulbs next to each other and you can see a noticeable difference . Weather it be from specrun or lumans , there is a different. By using a low quality bulb from the start you are handy capping yourself from the start , if your intentions are to just get a few grows under your belt then just go for a cheapy but if you are aiming for AAA+ quality the bulb will play a large role. Basicly low quality will do the job but a good high quality bulb will do it better. Ps it's also good to remember that with digital ballasts becoming more popular not all hps bulbs will work effectively due to the much higher frequently rate they operate at. That's why I try stick to ones designed for digital ballasts are the seem to last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Interesting, GLO do you maybe have a link or has anyone on this thread successfully imported the Lumatek lamps? If so which company did you import from, how long did postage take etc? Every extra bit helps hey, I think it's worth the money. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcapetown Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Sorry I'm hijacking this thread but does anybody have experience with eye blue metal halides that the Rev claims he uses through veg and flower? According to him you get better quality and coloured flowers. Not sure about yield though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Who is this Rev you talk of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 He is the auther of true living organics and a writter at skunk mag. He is all round organics "expert" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 He is the auther of true living organics and a writter at skunk mag. He is all round organics "expert" Yeah I use his book GLO is referring to alot. Great reference I posted his book here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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